Ian’s Newsround – Fucking Horrid Models

I’m sorry, but I’m absolutely livid about this. Comet Miniatures have listed two Corgi models, of Red Dwarf and Starbug. Both are due in September 2003, and both are the ‘Movie Version’. The minis themselves aren’t bad – I’ve always wanted a little Starbug, and they’re only a fiver each. The problem here is that it seems that the Movie will use a new version of the ship – similar to the Re-Mastered version, but even flatter. It looks shite, frankly. They’ve even made the front scoop much shorter, so it resembles a giant pencil more than ever before. John and I were both thrilled when we read that physical model shots would be used in the movie, but we wrongly assumed this would mean a return to the ship of Series I-V, which was really good. But no – like Series VIII, Red Dwarf is going to look fucking ugly. FUME!

Meanwhile, over on the official site, (which, incidentally, is yet to acknowledge these models, or the planned Java game), Andrew Ellard has written an excellent article about the use of Time as a plot device in the series. It’s full of Andrew’s pet theories, and makes a cracking read. Deck 5 is clearly the best part of the official site – holding Time Hole and Down Time, as well as links to the Mr. Flibble and news archives. Marvellous. The main news on the official site is about the cast DVDs, The Brittas Empire and WomanWizard, the progress of which have been reported here this week. This proves that Ganymede & Titan is better that the official site. Actually, come to think of it, it proves fuck all. Oh well.

As John mentioned yesterday, I’m off to see Norman Lovett later. Yippee! Expect a full report in the coming week.

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  1. Bit late with an explanation of this…well 14 or so it seems!… but I just stumbled on this site as a result of searching for pics of the Corgi Red Dwarf model whilst watching re runs on Dave. The reason I was looking for pictures was that I actually designed the model and made the prototype for Corgi. It always amused me that the very, very, very, fragile resin part for the front scoop clearly got broken before the model had it’s date with the photographer for all the promo images and was forever more seen in that state! Seems it didn’t escape your keen eye though and got mistaken for a feature on the redesigned “full size” Red Dwarf. Hope yo uenjoyed the models when you finally got some.

  2. I find this stuff endlessly fascinating. What was the process for designing the model? Did you have to work from supplied pics? Or did you get Chris Veale’s 3D model, or get to view the actual physical model at all? I’d love to know more in-depth stuff for this. Were you at all involved with the Starbug model, or the Series VIII Skutter toy?

  3. Hello Rich! I think it’s a GOOD model and I LIKE it. But then I like the pencil Dwarf more than most people on G&T seem to.

    Did you do the Starbug one as well? I think everyone agrees that that’s an all-time classic.

  4. I still proudly have both of mine. The Starbug is probably the best individual piece of non-book, non-AV RD merchandise there has ever been. They go for a FORTUNE sadly these days. Everyone should have one. Wish I had the Skutter though.

    I have nothing against the pencil version of the ship either to be honest. It’s just another interesting design variation in a show compromised of interesting design variations.

  5. Blimey, I didn’t realise they went for that much. I had long since lost my box and one of the figures, then two or three years ago (at LFCC, I think?) someone was selling a fully boxed set for fifteen quid, so I had it. Rather glad I did, now!

  6. Got the boxed set for £4 in 2008 from the clearance bin of a London model shop me and my now-wife were only in to get out of the rain. My eyes practically popped out on stalks.

  7. Starbug and Red Dwarf proudly sit either side of my TV. The However, as much as I’d like to have a little play with it, my Skutter has never left its RDVIII packaging.

  8. I quite like the pencil Dwarf, it’s just the CGI rendering of it that’s horrid

  9. Starbug and Red Dwarf proudly sit either side of my TV. The However, as much as I’d like to have a little play with it, my Skutter has never left its RDVIII packaging.

    Open it. I dares yer.

  10. Looks like 2003 was a worse year for Model Portfolio Pics than 2017.

  11. G&T Admin

    Oh God, I was a horrible 16-year-old.

  12. No, you were livid. Pay attention.

  13. The pencil (long) Dwarf is and always was horrible. I don’t blame the model designer for accurately designing a model of a picture of an ugly spaceship though.

  14. Oh God, I was a horrible 16-year-old.

    The boy Symes. The Smegmeister.

    No, you were livid. Pay attention.

    At least he apologised beforehand.

  15. Hi all, wow I didn’t expect the response to my post that there has been! In response to some of the questions; no I wasn’t involved with the Skutter model, actually I didn’t realise one had been made (Or had forgotten about it till now!). I didn’t make Starbug, that was the handiwork of George Turner who I worked for at the time. The job had a very tight deadline so we ended up with me making Red Dwarf and sculpting Lister and Rimmer whilst he tackled Starbug, the whole job took less than a fortnight if I remember right. My original sculpt for Rimmer got rejected though and his head ended up being done again by someone else to get a better likeness. The only reference material we had was a selection of pictures of the effects miniatures, so no digital files, no scale drawings and no dimensions, everything was sculpted by hand and eyeballed for accuracy. Much more fun that way! :) Somewhere stashed away I think I have all the original handmade prototypes of the models, I’ll have to did them out at some point…though that front scoop will be smashed on the origianl too I bet!

  16. The pencil (long) Dwarf is and always was horrible. I don’t blame the model designer for accurately designing a model of a picture of an ugly spaceship though.

    is the pencil dwarf really that bad? imo it looked fucking dreadful in CGI, but i thought the actual model of it was really rather impressive

  17. The model obviously looks a billion times better than the CGI version, but it’s still crap compared to the original model.
    Mind you, the bizarre halfway house we have at the minute is my least favourite of the three.

  18. the scale of the current model feels *really* off, no way is that thing a ship that’s five miles long. at least with the pencil model, it feels like it has some length to it.

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