First Full Cast Photo

Oh yes.

After all the split opinions and general feeling of confusion and unease over Monday’s leaked set shots, what we really needed was a big, unifying event to remind us all why we love Red Dwarf and follow its production diligently. Well, lo and behold…

Back to Earth - First cast shot

Isn’t that just the most beautiful thing you’ve seen in a long while?

Obviously, first things first: the costumes. And, yes, Dave, you might feel you have to qualify your genuinely interesting run-down of the costumes with the “slightly nerdy” comment, but that just makes the ‘character’ of your channel seem even more like the guy who always beat us up at school.

Now for some slightly nerdy costume analysis. Lister is in his classic leathers from series III and IV, Kryten has a slightly remodelled breastplate and chest monitor and Cat is looking stylish as ever in a never-before-seen maroon ensemble that will, surely, be all the talk at the fashion shows.

Rimmer may be the biggest surprise, however. Yes, he is, once again, a hologram – the H on his head is a dead giveaway! And the new uniform is a mix of the hardlight blue of series VI and VII combined with the tunic style of the classic third, fourth and fifth series.

Such startling accuracy! I wonder who their fact man is? Anyway, Mr. Ellard confirms in the comments that the costume decisions were all made by Doug and I have to say they’re pretty much to-the-detail perfect. Cat’s outfit is the only truly new costume, and quite right too. There’s no way he’d be trotting out that old leopard skin these days, he’s just got back to Earth and he needs to look awesome and new. And that he does. It actually amazes me how extravagant and *expensive* it all looks, too. I mean, I presume it wasn’t cheap, but this is still a TV show funded by a digital channel. I’m suitably impressed.

Lister, as we’ve seen before, looks splendid in his III/IV jacket (or a very close approximation) and might I say Craig is a youthful looking bugger. MAYBE THE INQUISITOR SMEGGING YOUTHED HIM?!1

Kryten, however, while clearly looking great, is sporting probably my least favourite costume. The mask looks almost precisely like the one from VIII which is fine but not my favourite design of mask, combined with the silver (and not my preferred black) suit. The detail on the suit itself looks great, though, and I really like his new hub-cap chest monitor. Once again, I’m seeing absolutely no concessions in what I assume isn’t a cheap costume. In fact, from a quality point of view, I don’t think he’s ever looked better. It’s nice to know that Red Dwarf can still produce extraordinary production values.

But my favourite by a country mile is Rimmer’s new get up. A perfect mixture of his best costume (the III, IV and V tunic) in a fetching blue last seen (along with the padded collar) in series VI and VII. Add this to Chris Barrie’s magnificent face once again *totally* inhabiting the character in just one single expression and you have one of my favourite things ever. Rimmer’s get-up is also the one that’s been causing the most speculation as the inescapable fact seems to be that, yes, he is a hologram once again. Quite what this means for the character (and whether anyone should really care) is a hot debate, but the smart money (i.e. MY money) suggests that this is indeed the Rimmer we last saw kneeing an imaginary death in the bony balls who has, obviously, died at some point in the last ten years. No matter which Rimmer it might be (I suppose the chance of the original returning and retiring from Acedom isn’t totally out of the question) we know these things for sure: his name is Arnold Judas Rimmer, he is a hologram and Doug will be writing him as the best possible version. Everything else is irrelevant.

As a crew shot it’s right up there as one of my favourites, and I’ll not lie about the fact that it has a lot to do with the sheer event factor of seeing a picture like this. It represents years and years of people moaning about the cast getting too old to play the parts, about them needing ZIMMERFRAMES LOL and other such banalities being smacked in their astonished, wrong faces. That, right there, is the Red Dwarf crew and there’s no escaping the fact that they are back and they look brilliant. Howard Burden is a fantastic man.

Along with the picture Dave also published a Best Moments So Far article and launched a new quiz, this time focussed around Lister. The questions are pretty easy for your average G&T geeknerd, but I guess that’s fine for a site that’s aimed at normal human beings, too. What isn’t fine, however, is the fact that they’ve completely fucked it up. Reports have been coming in from across the globe of scores such as 22/12, 12/10 (on the original quiz) and other such silliness. Seems like your session variables are cross wired, guys. NOW who’s the slightly nerdy one, eh? EH? Stupid trendy fuckers and their stupid mansion parties and elephant riding. But, erm, thanks for recommissioning Dwarf and giving us exclusive mid-week updates and all that.

So, there we have it. These two genital tightening bits of news in the last three days should be enough for your average week, but of course with the approach of the TOS Update comes a fresh knot of anticipation and hope buried deep in the stomach. If we get yet MORE new stuff on Friday I think I might die, or something. Until then, though, why not pleasure yourself to our new banner and p2p’s glorious photoshopping in our comments?

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  1. Chris may be looking old, BUT OH MY GOD THAT’S RIMMER’S FACE.

  2. G&T Admin

    God, they all look excellent. The retro stylings of Rimmer and Lister especially make me feel funny in my tummy.

    Seeing Kryten smile, though, he still looks exactly how he did in Series VIII…

  3. GIVE US A WALLPAPER-SIZED VERSION, YOU BASTARDS.

  4. G&T Admin

    Awesomeness. Rimmer’s costume is interesting, a blend of old and new.

    and

    LOL. The Cat. First time we’ve seen Danny isn’t it?

  5. Danny looks fantastic!

    In fact they all look great. Chris is the only one who’s visibly aged quite a bit, but I don’t think it’ll matter when you watch the actual performance as he is still, quite clearly, Rimmer.

  6. G&T Admin

    > GIVE US A WALLPAPER-SIZED VERSION, YOU BASTARDS.

    Until then, it looks lovely sat in the middle of a black background!

    The costumes really all utterly superb, though. Cat looks brilliant (and more thn little series IVish) and I can’t describe how pleased I am to see Chris in that tunic with the upside down, gold Golgafrinchan badge!

  7. G&T Admin

    Had the Carbug image not been leaked, this woudl have been our first glimpse of the new specials, bar Lister’s back.

    So ignore the Carbug for now. Just wipe it from your minds.

    Now how do you feel about the new specials?

  8. G&T Admin

    > “Now for some slightly nerdy costume analysis.”

    Now, come on Dave, Andrew was nice enough to give you the details of the costumes so let’s not slip into this “I don’t want to sound like a NERD GEEK, but!” laddish crap.

  9. G&T Admin

    > Now how do you feel about the new specials?

    I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM… IN THE BACK SEAT OF CARBUG.

  10. >Until then, it looks lovely sat in the middle of a black background!

    Actually, I’ve just received the cover to my Spidey comic, so I’m good for new wallpaper right now ;-)

  11. G&T Admin

    > Actually, I?ve just received the cover to my Spidey comic, so I?m good for new wallpaper right now ;-)

    Oooh! Give more details in the Forum. NOW.

  12. Danny and Craig look great. Chris looks fine, but I’m not keen on the blue costume. Kryten looks like Mr Wacky Robot.

  13. NON-NON-NON-NON-NON-BADONG.

    God that’s beautiful. Who was that prick moaning about how they will have aged? Who was the idjut with concerns about Danny? Oh it was me. Well my doubts are now quashed. Sure Chris looks a bit older, but that doesn’t matter. Rimmer was never a successful character because of his looks. It was become of his ‘looks’, along with his delivery and flawed personality. Chris is an absolute master when given the right dialogue and that’s all we really have left to worry about – The script.

    Everything visual is looking fantastic. Carbug was beautiful. Howard Burden has done an absolutely perfect job with the wardrobe.

    One thing. Did anyone figure out that the dark blue tunic was an indication of Rimmer’s ‘hard light’ mode? If not, how did we miss that.

  14. Quick question… what’s the emblem on Rimmer’s tunic?

  15. .i think it’s cause his hair is so short!, maybe he should grow it a bit….?.

  16. Craig’s lost that silver ‘eagle’ badge on his (right) lapel. Never did find out what that was…

    Great pic!

  17. has he still got the hologram keyring on his zip?…can’t see…..

  18. ..isn’t it an emblum he wore in series III/IV?…….looks familiar…

  19. Quick question? what?s the emblem on Rimmer?s tunic?

    It was used by the ships captain hat badge in HHGTTG, when they crashed back on Earth, some connection there for it to be used again, as well as Series V. Except on Rimmer’s costume it’s upside down.

  20. Excellent picture. They really do look as good as ever. A return to form for Red Dwarf. Howard Burden has hit the mark 100%! I LOVE what the Cat is wearing. And Rimmers costume is a great mix.

    Perhaps krytens smaller chest monitor is a clear sign – NO ROOM FOR HOLLY! Im still unsure about lack of Holly. Im happy to see how It plays out.

    Mid week updates are awesome! Roll on Friday.

  21. Great seeing them all together again. I’m surprised by the transformation back into character with Danny…not sure why. Just because it’s been so long, I guess.

    >i think it?s cause his hair is so short!, maybe he should grow it a bit?.?.

    Well, Rimmer did say he favoured the short, functional ‘do.

  22. yeah i’m gutted about no holly, he may be a misery but we do love im!….

  23. G&T Admin

    i think it?s cause his hair is so short!

    Well, it’ll give them something to talk about on the commentaries. There’s gonna be commentaries, right?

  24. Still not sure blue is a very good color on Chris, but at least it’s not all quilted ‘n’ padded. Except maybe for Chris’ hairline, you’d hardly think ten years had passed at all for any of the cast. (Not that I suppose it’d be easy to tell in the case of Robert, but Craig and Danny are looking pretty true to character.) I hope the whole project turns out as superb as this photo looks.

  25. Welcome to my desktop.

    Except for Rimmer, they don’t look like they have aged at all. And even Chris looks younger than two years ago O_o

    I am positivley excited. VERY MUCH SO.

  26. G&T Admin

    > i think it?s cause his hair is so short!

    Maybe he thought he was starting to look like one of those Hell’s Angels?

  27. G&T Admin

    He’d probably look a bit younger if he dyed his hair, but it doesn’t really matter, as long as he’s ol’ Rimsy.

  28. Chris Barrie’s hair is now far too short for a hologram.

  29. I totally dig Cat’s style.

    And all of their in-character faces.

  30. I think putting a wig on Chris might have been a good idea. Otherwise, not too bad.

    > > Now how do you feel about the new specials?
    >
    > I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM? IN THE BACK SEAT OF CARBUG.

    CARBUG DOESN’T HAVE A BACK SEAT.

  31. >Hi-res. Colour Correct.

    God you’re good.

  32. G&T Admin

    Hi-res. Colour Correct.

    He’s even got rid of the squeak on the seat-tilt control.

  33. new desktop sorted……WICKED!…

  34. :-))

    Danny’s new costume (love it, by the way) reminds me of his Low Version’s outfit from D&A.

  35. Hi, been a lurker on here forever but finally registered cos…oh you know…NEW RED DWARF! Am I the only one to notice that this Picture is in front of the health centre where Gail works on Corrie, at the very end of the Street next to the Kebab shop & Roy’s Rolls?

  36. G&T Admin

    Good spot! Very strong first post.

  37. I love Rimmers new suit, it looks like a blue version of the Series III-V suit.
    Cat looks as good as ever.
    Lister looks like he has never left.
    Kryten looks different, in a good way!

  38. G&T Admin

    Hello Phil1034. Welcome to obviously the best Red Dwarf fan centre on the Internet.

  39. Rimmer’s outfit may well turn out to be my favorite yet. The shimmering blue seems so perfect to me.

    Danny looks absolutely hilarious. Very glad to see Cat hasn’t lost his fashion sense over the years.

    And Craig…looks…exactly like he did in VII/VIII. Weird.

  40. G&T Admin

    Hello Phil. Welcome to obviously the best Red Dwarf fan centre on the Internet. Also, welcome to my penis.

  41. >Rimmer?s outfit may well turn out to be my favorite yet. The shimmering blue seems so perfect to me.

    It’s bloody two-tone, exactly like the III/IV ones were.

    I am making a “we’re not worthy” action in Howard Burden’s general direction right now.

  42. > Also, welcome to my penis.

    It’s just arrived, has it?

  43. What are Rimmer and The Cat looking at???

  44. >> Also, welcome to my penis.

    > It?s just arrived, has it?

    Hahahahaha!

    … sorry. It’s like being back in elementary school. In a good way.

  45. G&T Admin

    Ok, THAT one’s replaced the original Dave image, now. Good work!

  46. G&T Admin

    > ? sorry. It?s like being back in elementary school. In a good way.

    OH MY GOD, A GIRL!

  47. I stole p2p’s version (hope you don’t mind) and pimped the purple in Rimsy’s captain sapphire tunic.

    Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us

  48. What are Rimmer and The Cat looking at???

    It’s a portraiture, to generate an emotive reaction, rather than a cognitive identity.

  49. >It?s bloody two-tone, exactly like the III/IV ones were.

    Well yeah, except the dominant tone appears to be blue, rather than green! That’s where my preference lies.

  50. No, I know, I’m just expressing happy surprise that they’ve gone to that level of detail.

  51. Ahhh. I thought you were correcting me.

    Yes, whatever (rapidly diminishing) reservations I might have about this, the costumes are fucking wonderful.

    The smaller chest monitor on Kryten might be the only decision I’m not overly fond of, but, fortunately, it’s also one that I don’t give a single shit about.

  52. Doesn’t blue depict Hard Light though?. It could never be green again.

  53. I just love the fact that there will have been a process of thought or conversation along the lines of :

    “Right, we’re going back to a more retro look. Lister will be series III-style, Cat will have a big furry coat, so I guess that means we should put Rimmer in the Captain Emerald outfit”
    “Wait, hang on, because of [presumable plot-related or simple practicality-based reasons], we’ve made Rimmer hard light. So he needs to have the blue outfit.”
    “Well, since we established in VI and VIII that “blue = hard light”, let’s just do a new blue version of the classic outfit.”
    “Yeah, no, perfect.”

  54. …I don’t think anyone’s wishing that it were green. (If they are, they are IDIOTS.)

    >Doesn?t blue depict Hard Light though?

    Oh don’t open up that argument again.

  55. >Doesn?t blue depict Hard Light though?. It could never be green again.

    Or COULD it…? (green next, then)

  56. > I am making a ?we?re not worthy? action in Howard Burden?s general direction right now.

    Hey take a ticket bud.

  57. If you really want to get people fired up, p2p, put Rimmer in his series 1 outfit and airbrush out the H. Circulate that one and really confuse people.

  58. That’s really quite impressive, p2p. Can we have him in black and white next?

  59. G&T Admin

    > I just love the fact that there will have been a process of thought or conversation along the lines of :

    This is exactly it. I *love* how obviously well considered the costumes are. Each one shows that effort has gone into their selection. Frankly, I smell an Ellard at the heart of this.

    I still reckon that Kryten’s new chest monitor is no longer a monitor but a hologram projector for the old purpose of showing videos and to act as a remote centre of power for Rimmer.

  60. G&T Admin

    > Can we have him in black and white next?

    Oooh, yes!

  61. Fair point, but given the vast majority of five series worked well without him, I’m not fussed. It’ll make the rehearsal room football game refereeing much easier.

    How gloriously exciting is that picture. Huge classic fantasticness with a few touches of brand new and shake it up inventiveness. I thought for a short second they were posing outside Whitbury New Town Leisure Centre.

    A plea now for The Next Dimension Jump and Carbug to make an appearance at it.

    I’m not slightly worried about the corrie pics, given they werent supposed to get out, and it’s only 1 days location filming. What ever part this plays in any part of the 4 episodes, it shows humour aimed at a wider audience than just the hardcore fans. If Jane Austin World can exist woven into Red Dwarf somehow, I can take a contemporary reference, as I think it’s going to be short however it’s aired. Does anyone know though the corrie shooting schedule? Did Dwarf arrive booked into a day when the other show wasnt recording? What’s the betting on it turning up as part of TV Burp.

  62. > I still reckon that Kryten?s new chest monitor is no longer a monitor but a hologram projector for the old purpose of showing videos and to act as a remote centre of power for Rimmer.

    Didn’t he (Rimmer) have a remote projection unit thing anyway, like a utility belt type thing?

  63. G&T Admin

    I have a feeling the Carbug scene will be like the “Rimmerworld” type shot where they move quickly in and then out again.

  64. Capps penis?..

  65. First of all:

    a)Squee. Smashing.
    b)Starting to worry that after all this, the news pace will slow down again. I don’t know if I can stand a drought.
    c)There are too many Phils on here now.
    d)>Rimmer was never a successful character because of his looks
    HA. >along with his delivery and flawed personality. Yeah, okay. I suspect that as soon as we get a picture of him not tilting his head back so that he looks bald, he’ll look just fineeroonie.
    e) I’m all for this spreading disinformation lark, while we’re at it let’s photoshop in some daleks and a bunny rabbit.

  66. Lovin the grey, think green would be spot on though….

    is that Ocean Grey or Battleship Grey?….

  67. G&T Admin

    > A plea now for The Next Dimension Jump and Carbug to make an appearance at it.

    Wonderful idea! I can just see it parked up in the corner of the main hall…

  68. G&T Admin

    is that Ocean Grey or Battleship Grey??

    Neither. It’s military grey ;)

  69. G&T Admin

    I thought for a short second they were posing outside Whitbury New Town Leisure Centre.

    You really weren’t on your own with that thought!

  70. How could it be Whitbury New Town Leisure Centre, as we all know that was just a dream when Brittas fell asleep on the train, god I hate that ending.

  71. G&T Admin

    > Didn?t he (Rimmer) have a remote projection unit thing anyway, like a utility belt type thing?

    This is true.

  72. G&T Admin

    that was just a dream when Brittas fell asleep on the train

    Sorry, I never saw the last few series of Brittas. Are you being serious about that? Or am I being incredibly thick?

  73. G&T Admin

    P2P, that’s truly brilliant. That looks completely bizarre. I think I could get used to that…

  74. > Didn?t he (Rimmer) have a remote projection unit thing anyway, like a utility belt type thing?

    Yep. Hard-Light Remote Belt.

  75. G&T Admin

    Yeah, the last scene of the last episode was Brittas waking up from a dream. Colin, Carole, Tim, Gavin etc were all passengers and staff on the train he was taking to his interview at the leisure centre.

    Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to watch it.

  76. I couldn’t get used to it, but it’s still brilliant.

  77. G&T Admin

    I nominate p2p_productions for Hall of Fame status.

  78. > P2P, that?s truly brilliant. That looks completely bizarre. I think I could get used to that?

    Cheers. I loved the greyscale Rimmer look in the Smegazines. It just looked… right.

    Even though he’s only ever been colour in the series, they could’ve written it in for the specials: low battery, light bee damaged, etc…

  79. > ?I don?t think anyone?s wishing that it were green. (If they are, they are IDIOTS.)

    I LOVED his green outfit. (Just not the hat. The hat was… ugly.)

    > How could it be Whitbury New Town Leisure Centre, as we all know that was just a dream when Brittas fell asleep on the train, god I hate that ending.

    :(
    Thanks for spoiling it, too.

    Anyway, even if it was just a dream Brittas had on his way there, he was still on his way there, so it’d still exist, so it could still… no, wait. It didn’t even make sense the first time around.
    I would’ve loved to see it, though.

  80. > Even though he?s only ever been colour in the series, they could?ve written it in for the specials: low battery, light bee damaged, etc?

    And flickering like a letter to Obi-Wan? I’m not sure. It seems so… ordinary for holograms to use these effects. Basically the same as “why do they have wicked faster-than-light space technology, and still everything on the intercom and on screens looks and sounds like they’re using WWII equipment?”

    And two-tone fabrics don’t work in b/w :/

  81. p2p – reckon you could do a version of the greyscale one where he’s *slightly* see-through and a little fritzed around the edges?

    Or am I just being silly now? Tell you what, though, either way – do us wallpaper versions of the greyscale and we’ll release ’em with the other new ones ;-)

  82. I thought the light bee negated the need for hologram projection?

    He’s clearly hard-light, he’s leaning on the wall! ;)

    Costumes look brill, and it’s really hard to tell how bald Rimmer is looking as not one photo we’ve seen of him so far has been at a flattering angle. From what I’ve seen, it appears he’s been growing his hair out a bit recently, probably since he found out about the return of Red Dwarf, so it may not be as bad as we suspect. These make-up teams can do remarkable things.

  83. Sorry to spoil the ending.
    To be fair I thought Series 7 of Brittas was very good, just not the end which is a great shame. Actually I have not seen Brittas for while, might pop in the DVD tonight.

  84. G&T Admin

    I still think Rimmer with short hair makes perfect sense for the character. He’s militarily minded, after all!

  85. The Kryten mask just doesn’t look quite right to me. The mouth area seems different…

  86. Yep. Hard-Light Remote Belt.>

    He should definitely have some kind of hard light device on his belt, it looked ace…even though it did look like a big calculator!.

  87. maybe it’s just Rob’s smile that’s makin it look wierd???…

  88. >The Kryten mask just doesn?t look quite right to me. The mouth area seems different?

    The mouth it a little odd, still I will get used to it.

  89. G&T Admin

    Sorry, I just wanted to make the 100th comment on this thread.

  90. just wanted to be the 101st.

  91. G&T Admin

    > The Kryten mask just doesn?t look quite right to me. The mouth area seems different?

    It looked a bit odd in the pap photos, but I think this mask looks very closely like the VIII one. It looks fine to me.

  92. Piece of crap Dave quiz, I got all the answers correct and it says I got 9/12, oh yes I really think Lister supports The Manchester Sharks don’t I?

  93. G&T Admin

    Oddly, it worked ok for me. They definitely have some silly little bugs in that quiz code of theirs, though.

  94. Thinking about it the new Kryten mask will make him talking look more natural, if that is a good thing I don’t know.

  95. It probably is the smile, Kryten doesn’t often smile so I suppose it would look different… although when he has smiled in the past it’s never bunched up so much around the cheeks. Maybe Bobby’s just got bigger cheeks than before.

  96. sure i said that?……

  97. I’ve yet to watch series’ 6 and 7 of Brittas. Well, I caught the odd episode when it was actually on but I can’t remember them. I just don’t feel like watching them because the series 5 special was the perfect end. I don’t like the sound of the ‘dream’ ending either. What bollocks. The original writers, Fegan and Norris, would never have done that, especially after the series 5 special where you see the characters years down the line.

    Er, WHY AM I TALKING ABOUT BRITTAS WHEN THIS IS THE FIRST BLUMMIN OFFICIAL EFFING CAST PHOTO???!!!

    Danny IS the Cat!! For some reason I just couldn’t imagine him as Cat anymore. How wrong was I. GREAT costume choice for Danny, and the wig spot on. Craig – perfect. His best costume back and looking almost as youthful as when he first wore it! Chris – like the ‘H’ and blue Captain Emerald tunic though I hope it looks a bit better in the episode (doesn’t help that it’s in front of the green Rovers Health Centre, or whatever it’s called…). The hair is interesting. I’m sure there’ll be a line about a hologram ageing (say that with Holly gone he can’t regenerate, or something…). Kryten is as great as we could ever have expected! Changing his look would have been a big mistake as everything, from the cheesy (classic)Cybermen-like sleeves, right down to the coloured LEDs on his shoulders, simply IS Kryten.

  98. >I?m sure there?ll be a line about a hologram ageing
    Either that or he doesn’t become a hologram until the specials start or soon before. First scene: Rimmer falling out of an air lock.

  99. > sure i said that?

    Put an emphasis on the “is” and you’ll find I was agreeing with you not ignoring you.

  100. >p2p – reckon you could do a version of the greyscale one where he?s *slightly* see-through and a little fritzed around the edges?

  101. The quiz’s are indeed ridiculous… and about question ten on the Lister one, did that even happen? The only incident involving teeth I can remember was the one from VII that featured the use of wood glue.

  102. G&T Admin

    > Either that or he doesn?t become a hologram until the specials start or soon before. First scene: Rimmer falling out of an air lock.

    This is possibly the best post you’ve ever made. So, this is a Hologram of Series VIII Rimmer and he just died fairly recently. I like it.

  103. Yes, Kryten mentions that he made the original cap out of an old skeleton in the medi-bay.

  104. That isn’t a wig on Danny, surely? I thought he keeps his hair long anyway?

  105. G&T Admin

    > You are good!

    It’s fuckin’ witchcraft is what it is.

  106. G&T Admin

    > That isn?t a wig on Danny, surely? I thought he keeps his hair long anyway?

    No that’s definitely a wig. Andrew’s just mentioned the fact on the WebBoard.

  107. p2p you are a talent… a scholar, and a gentleman… but you have far too much time on your hands!

  108. Am I the only one who finds TOS WebBoard virtually unusable?

  109. I just found Andrew’s quote were he announces the wig –

    >ah wow they all look so grey!
    >especially kat and rimmer!
    >haha

    Cat looks grey? Despite the fact that it’s a wig?!

  110. G&T Admin

    > Am I the only one who finds TOS WebBoard virtually unusable?

    I’ve been using it since about 2001 so I’m well used to it (and it wasn’t nearly as outdated back then) but, yes, it is very idiosyncratic.

  111. Make Kryten’s body black instead of silver!

  112. > (say that with Holly gone he can?t regenerate, or something?).

    600 years on Rimmerworld minus… well… anyone?

    > Am I the only one who finds TOS WebBoard virtually unusable?

    No. A 1990s framesetted… thing… as we near 2010 – which was crap even in the late 90s? UBB.classic would be an upgrade…

  113. Lovely. Really lovely.

    I’m finding Rimmer’s new colour a bit to get used to, but I’m glad they went for a change. The outfit the Holo-Rimmer last wore (with the padded shoulders) looked ok, but not really the military thing to which Rimmsy aspires.

    Cat’s new outfit looks brilliant. As does Lister’s old-style get up.

    As for Kryten’s monitor, I seem to remember it getting quite narrow in the later series.

    As for Hard-light remote belt… I never quite got what that was for. The light bee, is a remote device in it’s own nature. The remote belt is generated by the light bee (according to the gadgets section on the main site.) The light bee generates it’s own battery pack? Oh well future tech and all that.

  114. >Make Kryten?s body black instead of silver!
    Make it pink! I have always wanted to see a pink Kryten.

  115. G&T Admin

    Or gold!

    Actually, don’t bother.

  116. > That?s really quite impressive, p2p. Can we have him in black and white next?

    Can we have just Rimmer and can it be a beach shot in Acapulco?

  117. I just won 18/10 in the first Dave quiz. Yes. 18/10.

    I did even better in the Dave Lister quiz. 22/12. Thankyew!

  118. G&T Admin

    > I just won 18/10 in the first Dave quiz. Yes. 18/10.

    It sounds like there’s been a hilarious mistake with how the site stores your marks. They’re probably saved into memory via sessions or cookies and the two quizzes use the same IDs, causing the confusion.

  119. At last! I love this pic.
    They’re all looking great imo.

    The Cat’s costume is just fantastic!
    Rimmer’s costume seems not *quite* right …. maybe it should be a darker blue? Maybe it’s just the light.

    But I feel I have to defend all the unkind comments about Mr Barrie’s hair:
    SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT CHRIS’S HAIR !
    .

  120. G&T Admin

    > Rimmer?s costume seems not *quite* right ?. maybe it should be a darker blue? Maybe it?s just the light.

    If I was to change one thing about it (and I think I’d only *want* to change one thing) it’d be the padded neck. From the pictures we’ve seen it’s never quite looked right.

    > But I feel I have to defend all the unkind comments about Mr Barrie?s hair:

    I don’t think anyone’s been unkind about his hair.

  121. I don’t want to re-inflame the other threads ‘Colingate’, but

    >?Let?s see what this purple corridor has to offer!?

    Actually it was the even worse:
    ?Let?s see what this purple passage has to offer!?

    On the subject of Red The Dwarf, by crikey I’m excited.

    Cat looks great, Rimmer just looks right, definitely hard light, check out that hands on wall action.

    They don’t look like they’ve never gone away, but they do look like they deserve to be back.

  122. >The mouth it a little odd, still I will get used to it

    Get a room

  123. Superb! Absolutely love the costume design – it’s all perfect.

    As for those concerned about Rimmer’s look I actually think an ‘older’ RImmer makes more sense from the characters POV. In his mid-20s he still had time to take his exams and progress up the ladder. Therefore a 40-something who is still a chicken soup machine cleaner just makes his angst ever more tragic. OK I know the other characters have aged with him but Lister is so laid back he wouldn’t care about being a 2nd technician at the age of 40.

    Anyways the fact Rimsey is a hologram again means that he obviously didn’t defeat Death for long at the end of VIII.

  124. >?Let?s see what this purple passage has to offer!?
    ‘Vengeance on Varos’?

    Still he had a bloody good opening scene –
    Peri: Doctor?
    Doctor: You’re expecting someone else?
    Peri: I.. I.. I..
    Doctor: 3 “I”s in one sentance makes you sound like an egotistical young lady
    Peri: What happened?
    Doctor: Change my dear and it seems not a moment too soon
    [Titles]

    Best regeneration in my books.

  125. I actually think an ?older? RImmer makes more sense from the characters POV. In his mid-20s he still had time to take his exams and progress up the ladder. Therefore a 40-something who is still a chicken soup machine cleaner just makes his angst ever more tragic

    I heartily endorse this sentiment, not least because I’ve voiced it myself repeatedly.

  126. Wow, what a day!

    > Quick question? what?s the emblem on Rimmer?s tunic?

    He’s only been wearing it since 1989… :-)

    http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/gallery/series-7/images/7-12.jpg

    > CARBUG DOESN?T HAVE A BACK SEAT.

    Wrong. And saying it block capitals doesn’t make you otherwise.

    > Frankly, I smell an Ellard at the heart of this.

    Absolutely not, much as I’d love the acclaim. The choice was made before I even joined the production, I believe – and it was totally down to Doug. Credit where it’s due, because I think it’s a brilliant costume decision.

    > Yeah, the last scene of the last episode was Brittas waking up from a dream.

    It doesn’t count, you hear me. It doesn’t count!

    > I?m sure there?ll be a line about a hologram ageing

    Remind me – how did they explain why the Rimmer in VII was a decade older than the one in The End?

    > The light bee generates it?s own battery pack?

    How else would you switch off a hardlight hologram? Can’t reach in and grab the light-bee once the bugger’s solid…

  127. >> I?m sure there?ll be a line about a hologram ageing

    >Remind me – how did they explain why the Rimmer in VII was a decade older than the one in The End?

    Well ‘Out of Time’ sort of proved that holograms could age and change quite alot “Your 2 meals away from being a sumo wrestler”.

    >How else would you switch off a hardlight hologram? Can?t reach in and grab the light-bee once the bugger?s solid?
    He did sort of reach in, in ‘Legion’, just after Kryten hits him over the head with the pole, he reaches into his belly.

  128. Though ‘Rimmerworld’ had Rimmer live 600 years without ageing a day.

  129. >A plea now for The Next Dimension Jump and Carbug to make an appearance at it.

    Request noted…

  130. Twas the debauched living that did it in Out of Time. (Yeah, I know. You wouldn’t age THAT much. Maybe he had it altered himself thinking it made him look esteemed.)

    I really don’t care about the aging though. We know holo-technology can be a bit quirky what with the chest pains and spasms he suffered in Rimmerworld.

  131. If Holly (or the light bee) can give Rimmer a haircut, they can easily give Rimmer wrinkles. Rimmer probably requested the silver hair in order to look more dignified or authoritative. ;p

  132. >Therefore a 40-something who is still a chicken soup machine cleaner just makes his angst ever more tragic

    So when he transferred back to Red Dwarf in ‘Holoship’ he no longer had the rank of officer?

  133. > Remind me – how did they explain why the Rimmer in VII was a decade older than the one in The End?

    Technically VII is only set 5 years after series 1, so he wasn’t a decade older…

    OK, you can suspend belief well enough to let Rimmer’s aging go, up to that point. Now, in this special, where he has a receding hairline and grey hair surely it’s more likely to be brought up.

  134. >OK, you can suspend belief well enough to let Rimmer?s aging go, up to that point. Now, in this special, where he has a receding hairline and grey hair surely it?s more likely to be brought up.

    Why bother. If we can’t suspend our belief as far as ‘everyone looks 10 years older because it’s 10 years since the last one’, we’re watching the wrong show.

  135. I imagine the recent expiration explanation is going to be it. Unless Rimmer finally pissed Holly off enough to earn a permanent makeover instead of just bad hair.

  136. Also, the production office picture in the header is making me all giggly.

  137. After the movie debacle I was almost expecting the whole thing to fall through, but it’s suddenly hit me that IT’S ACTUALLY HAPPENING!

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    p2p, you have continually put a big grin on my face today. Thank you!

  139. Excellent work, p2p.

    Don’t suppose you can you wipe that smug look of Kryten’s face though…

  140. > Technically VII is only set 5 years after series 1, so he wasn?t a decade older?

    But the ACTOR was, dingbat. What you’re talking about now – explaining the age change – isn’t to justify the fictional time transition, the character’s growth over the fictional time period, it’s to justify the change in the actor’s appearance.

    And if you want to talk technical points, it’s not five years for Rimmer from the end of The End to Stoke in VII, it’s at least 562 plus a couple of centuries switched off.

    > Now, in this special, where he has a receding hairline and grey hair surely it?s more likely to be brought up.

    I suspect this is a joke too sophisticated for my ailing brain. I dunno, let me ponder a minute on what’s likely to happen in the script I keep IN MY DESK…

    > Why bother. If we can?t suspend our belief as far as ?everyone looks 10 years older because it?s 10 years since the last one?, we?re watching the wrong show.

    This. This. This.

  141. great photo these wednesday updates are so far giving us some good pics and there all looking fantastic i thought danny would have looked older but he looks like he has not aged a day.

  142. You know I think Danny looks better in that picture, than in any of the series VIII. in VIII he had too much make up and it didn’t suit him at all. The Cat’s new outfit reminds me of the one from Dimension Jump. Rimmer looks good in his series III-V stlye outfit, though a black colour might have helped, ala VI-VII.
    it’s great to finally see Kryten in the full, I actually like the new suit, shame it’s not blacker though and the new mask has a feel of the Red Dwarf USA one about it.

  143. All i can say is wow!

    You know what really surprises me, just how good Danny looks. Seeing him in the recent Bodysnatchers DVD collection, he looked really like he was getting old. Add to that the fact that in Series 8 Danny was really wrinkly, especially when making any kind of facial expression (see the moment just as he finishes the blue midget dance and jumps into the pilots seat, wrinkle city!). But wow, he looks like the Cat in Series 4 in that promo! Lets just hope it’s not heavily photoshopped.

    Craig and Robert look great in their costumes, and definitely still look the part.

    Chris Barrie. Blimey he’s lost some weight hasn’t he? I’m not sure about that costume though. I don’t think it really suits him.

  144. > Lets just hope it?s not heavily photoshopped.

    Worth answering this one, actually. That picture went from the photographer’s camera to computer to CD to my email to Dave to the site. And the only changes were a slight crop and the addition of the branding.

    This is all of them, as they were on set, totally uncorrected.

  145. Passing photos around on CD? Get into the 20th century!

  146. I can’t believe we’re fighting about whether Rimmer’s suit should be red or blue – it’s supposed to be green!

    I think they should give Carbug to Robert for the next series of Carpool. And make him wear the costume.

  147. i wonder weather they were planning on putting this picture up this week or weather the pics in the newspapers prompted them to put up an official picture sooner than planned .. either way it looks and they look fantastic

  148. >Now, in this special, where he has a receding hairline and grey hair surely it?s more likely to be brought up.

    So in summary, here is the rough outline for the special:

    1. The difference in the age of the cast is explained away
    2. The possibility of a hologram aging is explained away
    3. The fact that Rimmer was alive and is now a hologram again is explained away
    4. COMMERCIAL BREAK
    5. The absence of Kochanski is explained away
    6. The absence of Holly is explained away
    7. What happened after Rimmer’s encounter with Death is explained away
    8. COMMERCIAL BREAK
    9. The crew returns to Earth for the 3 minutes remaining in the episode.

    Hey, you know what? Let’s just start off at 9.

  149. > i wonder weather they were planning on putting this picture up this week

    It was always the plan.

  150. may be Kryten will address the audience in a voice over again, ala Nanarchy. in which he’ll explain how Red Dwarf survived the virus and where Holly, Kochanski and the Crew have vanished.

  151. >Chris Barrie. Blimey he?s lost some weight hasn?t he? I?m not sure about that costume though. I don?t think it really suits him.

    That’s the first thing I noticed, and actually, I had wondered if he would bother slimming down some. (He was getting a bit on the fluffy side in VIII. I notice stupid little details like this, as if it would actually matter.) I’m pleased to see they went back to the Captain Emerald costume, although I do agree it’s kind of the wrong shade of blue. Maybe a bit darker would’ve looked better. He’s almost Captain Aquamarine rather than Captain Sapphire.

    There. Done with my nitpicking 2 cents. :-P

  152. I agree that Danny looks great and certainly a lot better in this photo than in VIII. There are times in VIII the Cat looks far too much like the Cat in The Rimmer Experience. Craig looks lovely, and Chris = Rimmer, absolutely. The costumes look spot on.
    Kryten I’m not so sure about. Bit too silvery, bit too smug/cheesy smiley in a series VIII way for my liking.

  153. Craig looks like he just came off the set of VII. Brilliant.

    A very VII/VIII looking Kryten – mind you, I liked that costume!

    Danny, reminds me of John Pertwee… It’s probably the shirt.

    Rimmer has 2 things wrong with it already – the neck (if not the tunic!)should be a darker blue and those 2 buttons on the tunic should probably be gold to match the badge. That asides, I hope he’s wearing black trousers in keeping with his VI costume.

    Still not the worst costume they’ve made Chris wear. ‘Out of Time’ yellow wins hands down…

  154. Bobby just tweeted that they’re not filming again until 16th Feb.
    Somebody suggested that they may have just been filming a trailer last Sat – they could be right.

  155. … or it could have been the only time the Corrie set was available. We’ll see, I guess.

  156. i find it unlikely that its going to be they visit coronation street and characters ect ect surely there would be complications with using characters and a setting from a different show on a different channel and some of the papers said that simon gregson was actually taking part in the shoot, has that been confirmed ? or maybe he was just on the set on the same day ?

    find it unlikly that they be shooting there with the carbug just for a trailer.

  157. The question is re: Rimmer.. is this the same Rimmer we love, the one we’ve watched grow and evolve over seven series? who we last saw go off to defend the universe as Ace? or is it just some other rebooted version of Rimmer??

  158. G&T Admin

    > The question is re: Rimmer.. is this the same Rimmer we love, the one we?ve watched grow and evolve over seven series? who we last saw go off to defend the universe as Ace? or is it just some other rebooted version of Rimmer??

    I honestly don’t think it matters a single jot. Either way it’s clearly going to be a Rimmer with a long history with the crew who is also a hologram and Doug will be writing the absolute best version possible. How is that NOT Rimmer, regardless of his roots?

  159. i think they may either leave it up to your imagination as to which rimmer it is .. or may just put in a throwaway comment during the episode like ” oh why did i come back ” to suggest its old rimmer .either way it dosent really matter

  160. > Good spot! Very strong first post.

    Cheers, I shall endeavour to keep the strong posts up…though I fear you may have to settle for competent.

    > Also, welcome to my penis.

    I was only expecting a tie.

  161. I guess the Rimmer thing doesn’t really matter much, just great to see CB back with a H on his head.

  162. hummingbird I did sugest about It being a trailer, read It off Click LiverpoolI think. BUT the more I think about it, the more I think this is too much for a trailer. Great to see the response to this photo, It really is great.

    Here’s a question. If, like Andrew, you had the Red Dwarf script in your draw RITE NOW, would you read it? Or wait for the episode to be broadcast?

  163. If I was Andrew and had it in my drawer, I would have already read it several times or I’d be a bit of a crap associate producer.

  164. No. Thats not what I asked. I said If LIKE ANDREW you had It in your draw, would you read It?

  165. G&T Admin

    I’d the read the HELL out of it, yes.

  166. >I guess the Rimmer thing doesn?t really matter much, just great to see CB back with a H on his head.

    For some reason I first read it as “just great to see CP back with a H on his head” and I got confused I HAVE BAD EYESIGHT

  167. If I had the script, I’d try not to read it. I might cave to be fair, but I wouldn’t want to spoil it for myself.

    Years ago, during its early years when it was actually a good show, I really enjoyed Friends. Because we were months behind in the UK, I somehow found a site that posted Friends scripts for shows that had yet to air. I read one, and to be honest it did spoil my enjoyment of the show when it actually aired over here.

    A couple of years down the line, I’d probably have paid to just read the script and not actually watch the show itself it got that bad, but nevertheless…

  168. if i had the script i would try my absolute hardest not to read it , maybe read the start to see if there is actually any explanation for anything ,cliffhangers , lack of certain characters then try putting it down, i think it would be pointless to know how a brand new episode ends before seing it on the screen.

  169. For some reason I first read it as ?just great to see CP back with a H on his head? and I got confused I HAVE BAD EYESIGHT

    [WHISPER MODE] Me too. [/WHISPER MODE]

  170. > Wrong.

    So Carbug’s dimensionally transcendent* then? Because that’s a Smart ForTwo under the sticky-on bits, and ForTwos don’t have back seats.

    > And saying it block capitals doesn?t make you otherwise.

    Reply to block caps = in block caps. [And I think you meant “in block capitals” :p]

     

    * = “Bigger on the inside”

  171. >(double post, because the page froze on me the first time)

    Yes, you really do have a rough life.

  172. >I?d the read the HELL out of it, yes.

    This. Spoil with xtreme prejudice.

  173. I stated a fact. It was an explanation, not a comment.

    The alternative was to leave it as a double post. Which I hate doing on the occasion where I accidentally do so.

  174. > And if you want to talk technical points, it?s not five years for Rimmer from the end of The End to Stoke in VII, it?s at least 562 plus a couple of centuries switched off.

    Oh you…

    > I suspect this is a joke too sophisticated for my ailing brain. I dunno, let me ponder a minute on what?s likely to happen in the script I keep IN MY DESK?

    …smug fucking producer fucky fuck.

    Right, who’s betting NOTHING is answered, at least in the Dave versions of the episodes? Possibly in any POTENTIAL unconfirmed longer version, or in any potential deleted scene(s) that may potentially be included on any potential DVD that may potentially be released potentially later on this year, potentially.

    Potentially answered in the Making of BTE? Yes, I would say. Especially if these potential words potentially leave Andrew’s mouth, potentially at some point before any potential Doug interview that may potentially occur, PRESUMABLY for tMoBTE – “Doug, the twats at G&T want to know
    a) which Rimmer this is,
    b) why he’s aged, even though he’s a hologram,
    c) where Kochanski is,
    d) where Holly is,
    e) actually they’re not arsed about c or d but you still need to answer them because…well, you just fucking do,
    f) whether this is series 9, series 6B, S8E09/10 or series 1 of new Dwarf,
    g) whether these episodes are canon, a bubble or something else,
    h) whether Neil Gaiman is lined up to write an episode,
    i) whether anyone who contributes to G&T, aside from myself with my smug as smeg comments, is secretly involved in the making of the specials in an, as of yet, unspecified role. OK, Doug?” “Yeah. Er, who are you again?” “Just a runner.”

    As long as that conversation takes place we’ll be sorted. Still won’t stop fan fiction though, most, no doubt, depicting a nasty end for Kochanski!

  175. G&T Admin

    > As long as that conversation takes place we?ll be sorted. Still won?t stop fan fiction though, most, no doubt, depicting a nasty end for Kochanski!

    And Rimmer and Lister having dirty, full-on ‘hard’ drive sex.

    In less disturbing news, Robert Llewellyn is being MYSTERIOUS:

    “@bobbyllew This may have already been answered, but is Kochanski not in the new series 8.5?”

    In which Bobby’s reply was:

    “@bortflancrest Final casting hasn’t been announced, can’t say more”

    WHAT ARE YOU HIDING, ROBERT?!

  176. G&T Admin

    Also, performingmonkey, you honestly make me lol my face off sometimes.

  177. G&T Admin

    Article now updated. At 4:20am. That’s sure to be good.

  178. > If, like Andrew, you had the Red Dwarf script in your draw RITE NOW, would you read it?

    Damn right I would. Then I’d feed you guys wildly inaccurate rumours and sit back and watch you tie yourselves in knots trying to figure it all out.

    > And Rimmer and Lister having dirty, full-on ?hard? drive sex.

    So it *is* you who writes that stuff, Capps. I had my suspicions.

  179. >[And I think you meant ?in block capitals? :p]

    I’m a terrible pedant for language… but this is by far the lamest piece of internet language pedantry I’ve ever seen.

  180. G&T Admin

    > So it *is* you who writes that stuff, Capps. I had my suspicions.

    I said “drive” instead of “light”. I am an idiot.

  181. G&T Admin

    They’ve spelt “Dibbley” wrong in the Best Moments So Far list. Cancel the specials.

  182. G&T Admin

    Also, 200. Pwt.

  183. > I can?t believe we?re fighting about whether Rimmer?s suit should be red or blue – it?s supposed to be green!

    Can’t let this be overlooked. Best comment evar!

    Performingmonkey’s posts are a close second.

  184. > So Carbug?s dimensionally transcendent* then? Because that?s a Smart ForTwo under the sticky-on bits, and ForTwos don?t have back seats.

    You’re right – I must be making it up. Can’t be the case. You’d know. Etc.

  185. has anyone one here *not* got this pic on their desktop?

  186. > He?s only been wearing it since 1989? :-)

    Yes well. In my heart it’s always 1987.

  187. > ?@bortflancrest Final casting hasn?t been announced, can?t say more?

    William Shatner’s guest starring.

  188. Doing a spoken word version of the Red Dwarf theme song.

  189. SPOILERS.

  190. >Doing a spoken word version of the Red Dwarf theme song.

    Oh. Fucking.

    Yes.

  191. It is indeed my desktop.

    Showed to the Mrs…and her first words were “Why are they standing outside the health centre from Coronation Street?”

  192. > You?re right – I must be making it up. Can?t be the case. You?d know. Etc.

    What exactly are you up to on the production, Andrew? You said you’re directing the making-of…what else? Is it top secret?

  193. :O Andrew is gonna be the new Holly! I KNOW IT!

  194. > What exactly are you up to on the production, Andrew?

    Ah, yeah, sorry – I thought I’d posted this but may only have done so on the RD site board. I’m on as Associate Producer.

    And the new Holly. Oh yes.

  195. Awesome. Reckon if I was involved in Dwarf in such a capacity, I would be on the brink of orgasm most of the day.

  196. They would probably have to let you go in that case.

  197. Roberts latest WLW reveals that there is talk of more Dwarf already, I can’t even put how exited that makes me into words. Is phantasmagoric a word?

  198. Brilliant affect. Not entirely sure how you manage to get background behind the image. (Did you just draw in a n approximation? You don’t have to tel me, it’s a great illusion.)
    And wide-screen Holly is good.

    I just noticed the best moments link in the article above is wrong. (If someone here has already mentioned it, sorry.)

    http://dave.uktv.co.uk/library/red-dwarf/red-dwarf-feature-best-moments/

    (I.e. just knock off the ‘-so-far’ bit.)

  199. Hattie wins.

  200. REALLY?, I have just creamed my pants!!!!!!!!!………………..

  201. G&T Admin

    > I just noticed the best moments link in the article above is wrong. (If someone here has already mentioned it, sorry.)

    Cheers! They must’ve changed the URL for some STUPID reason.

  202. Well clearly ‘so far’ gave it away that we’ll be getting even more New Dwarf after the specials. So they’ve removed that because it’s all a conspiracy and they don’t want us to know and that. Kochanski’s the Rani.

  203. Richard Pryor as Cat.

  204. Jim wins all. Though I would have Kelsey Grammer as Kryten! In any alt-cast he would be Kryten every time. Will Smith as Lister (…!), Alan Rickman as Rimmer, Chris Rock as the Cat.

    Actually, Christian Bale as Rimmer!

  205. Is anyone else reminded (by the ‘crew finds Lister in Corrie’ idea) of the Bedford Falls stuff at the start of BTL?

  206. >a) which Rimmer this is,
    >b) why he?s aged, even though he?s a hologram

    It could be series VIII Rimmer having aged and then died shortly before the point at which the specials begin, 10 years after VIII. Maybe the specials will begin with Rimmer’s death.

  207. Wet Liberal Weekly 11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    bobby talks about the leaked photos and

    THERE’S TALK OF NEW RED DWARF AFTER THE SPECIALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Plus more

    at the end he says he is going to ask if he can do a wet liberal in the Kryten mask!!!

  208. sorry here is the link

  209. I like p2p’s red or green but I prefer the blue padded suit of VII with black pants.

    And Lister’s light brown… jump suit?

    Maybe the specials will begin with Rimmer?s death.

    But VIII ended with Rimmer’s death. In a way.

  210. I must say I think either the Series 1+2 outfit (and I don’t know why it seemed to suit him) or the Series VI outfit is my favourite. I think it is a fantastic idea to give this Rimmer a blue version of an old costume though, putting something new into a classic design.

  211. Bobby is simply brilliant, and he’s absolutely right about the paper versions of the tabloids (though they have already helped with Dwarf promotion so they can’t be slagged too much, except the Fail, of course). Can’t wait to see what little exclusives he can bag for future WLWs.

    It’s great to hear how happy he is to be back under the mask.

  212. Interesting that it will only be the Unplugged thingamebob that will have an audience. That is a little bit disappointing actually as it would guess it means that BTE won’t have an audience at all, which could hurt it a bit. But eh… I am still feeling special feelings about it.

  213. >Is anyone else reminded (by the ?crew finds Lister in Corrie? idea) of the Bedford Falls stuff at the start of BTL?

    Heh, yes, I thought of that too.

    I’m not sure of the totally immersion thing though as it’s been done so much… but if it’s done well it could work.

    Of course it could be a similar idea, except actually on 21st Century Earth. Again, time travel on Earth has been done often before too, but we’ll see.

    I’m particularly curious about the idea of an attack throwing them back to Earth. If Corrie part (I’m using that in a general way, not suggesting they’re actually in the soap world) were a VR of sorts, could the mysterious enemy be behind it? A kind of Matrixy thing?

  214. > Is anyone else reminded (by the ?crew finds Lister in Corrie? idea) of the Bedford Falls stuff at the start of BTL?

    Yeah, me too – shame they missed the snow for filming…

  215. The snow here had all melted by Monday evening anyway.

  216. Of course it could be a similar idea, except actually on 21st Century Earth. Again, time travel on Earth has been done often before too, but we?ll see.

    Cyberia?

    Of course, Earth could have been brought to the crew in some way. Maybe the Homo Sapienoids have replaced everyone in a budget friendly attack of the giant savage completely invisible evolution of the body snatchers. ;)

  217. Cyberia?

    I tend to think of Coronation Street as hell.

  218. Ditto…

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