“It was like The Who reforming, only nobody died”

SFX’s relationship with Red Dwarf has been up and down over the years, but in recent years they’ve been treating the show very well, devoting a good amount of space to preview Back To Earth (not to mention the special cover created for the show).  The November edition (November?  You stupid fuckers) carries a substantial four page interview with Chris, Craig and Robert and it’s really very pleasant indeed.  Edited highlights follow, but I also encourage you to buy the mag when it’s released on Wednesday, if for no other reason than to keep SFX’s lawyers off my substantial arse.

Red Dwarf is back, and in better shape than ever. Rob Power talks Series X with [snip]

ROB POWER. ROB. POWER.

The long awaited 10th season is – almost – here. And it has the look and feel of vintage Dwarf, thanks in no small part to the live audience and set design that harks back to the show’s early ’90s peak.

All good points, ROB POWER, but it’s also worth pointing out that the similarities to the classic era is more than just the superficial details.  I know this has been said before, but it’s worth restating that this series is so much more than VIII’s own similarities to the old series, which went no further than a studio audience and sometimes having Rimmer and Lister talking to each in a bunk room.

Are you still in love with Red Dwarf after all these years?
Chris Barrie: Most definitely.
Craig Charles: It’s one of those things that people say to me: ‘Do you ever worry about getting typecast as Dave Lister?’ And you just think, if you’re gonna get typecast as anyone…

It’s lovely to hear the cast talk so fondly about Red Dwarf as it’s no secret that Chris and Craig especially haven’t exactly been free of wobbles in the past.  I think it helps immensely that in the years since VIII, they’ve all had so much freedom to pursue personal projects that clearly make them happy.  In the past you may have got the impression that Red Dwarf was a bit of an albatross around Craig’s neck, but a very successful career as a DJ and soap actor has clearly given him a different perspective.

Back in the day we used to rehearse five days a week and then film on the weekends.  But the thing is, you notice in a lot of the old series Lister’s sitting down… cos you were rehearsing five days a week! So you were like ‘I think I’ll sit here, yes!’

I may be wrong about this, but I think Craig’s memory is playing tricks with him here.  I always thought the norm back in the day was rehearsals Monday to Wednesday, pre-records and final rehearsals on Thursday and the audience day on Friday, which pretty much matches what we know about Series X’s schedule.

Now, are you a hardcore fan?  Yes?  Well, Craig Charles has been talking about you behind your back:

Craig Charles: The reaction from the hardcore fans has been brilliant as well, I mean some of them haven’t really liked Red Dwarf since series six.

I think my ears are burning. He has got this spot on, though. It’s true that all the reaction from fans so far have only been based on the highly charged atmosphere of audience recordings, but the general feeling is very positive and it’s nice that they’ve seen the positive stuff that’s been said about everyone’s work on this series. However…

Robert Llewellyn: No, series two! I’ve saved the tweets! ‘You’ve ruined Red Dwarf!’ From series three!

… if you are one of these people (and I know you’re out there, you insufferable cunts) then please do this for me: go to your bathroom, look at yourself in the mirror, scream “I AM AN IDIOT” and punch yourself in the face until you lose consciousness. Then, when you wake up, DO IT AGAIN.

Finally, if you need any further reassurances regarding the title of episode 6 and whether or not it’s a sign of the show coming to an end, this should help:

We know the last episode of this series is called “The Beginning” and fans are speculating that this could be a reference to the first ever episode “The End”. Do you see Series X as a rebirth or a swan song?
Chris Barrie: More of a rebirth.
Craig Charles: A rebirth, yeah. We’re all very comfortable in our skin, and it was very important that the legacy wasn’t affected by it. Cos it’s actually quite cool, Red Dwarf, and we didn’t want anything like that ‘Grumpy old men in space, you’ve really fucking lost it now’. And I don’t think that comes across in this series. This one’s excellently written and the guys are on their game, so there’s no reason why we shouldn’t do more.

Hehe, Craig Charles did a swear.  Anyway, yeah, it seems that if the opportunity is there a new series will be definitely on the cards.  Comments from both Doug and the cast suggest as much, so I guess at this point we just need to rely on Dave to recommission.

The November issue of SFX is released this Wednesday if you want to pick it up and read through the whole interview.  It’s a really nice piece with some excellent accompanying pictures taken during rehearsals and it’s definitely worth picking up a copy to read the whole thing.

Thank you to Si Bromley for bringing our attention to the piece and providing us with the necessary scans.  Please don’t be mad at me, ROB POWER, I promise I’ll buy a copy on Wednesday.

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85 Responses to “It was like The Who reforming, only nobody died”

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  1. Thanks a lot for this summary. Really pleased to read that the cast are up for doing more series. :D

  2. Nice interview, amusing photos – what I’ve seen. (Alas, my Midwest B&N won’t have this issue for another month or more. The clerk said “it has to come from the UK” and I thought *On what, a tramp steamer?*)

  3. I like the kryten mask better in this picture.

  4. From a practical pov, surely they’re in a very good position to make another series? The sets, the models, all the experience gained in making series X could be used for XI, right? It seems like too good a setup not to remount for another 6 episodes. Of course, they would have to be written first…;)

  5. I’m not sure how or why, but Chris actually looks younger in that photo than he does in the show…

  6. I’m not sure how or why, but Chris actually looks younger in that photo than he does in the show…

    He reminds me of Sam Rockwell … which is really odd, considering I thought Zaphod in the Hitchhiker’s film reminded me of a cross between Sam (duh) and Ace Rimmer. I think it’s the squint and the still-reddish facial stubble.

  7. Give ’em another series you shits!

    But as mentioned by Monkey, with all the stuff they can carry over from this series another series could be very very interesting. Though I’m more than impressed by some of the things they’ve managed to do with the budget in this series. When X was announced I always hoped they’d do at least series XI as well. I guess the only thing stopping them really would be Craig and Corrie which may not be too much of a problem for Corrie or Craig but it may mean we have to wait a bit longer for them to be able to film it.

  8. Hehe, Craig Charles did a swear

    During the interview, even Wet Liberal Robert Llewellyn does a swear! Filthy tongued fucking cunts, the lot of them. ;)

    I like the kryten mask better in this picture.

    Still not sure about the nose.

  9. Dave will thrive from Series X, i imagine XI will be a highly likely!

  10. Depends whether Craig would want to take the time off from Corrie in addition to whether they would let him. In an interview recently he said they granted him 3 months off to film Dwarf and had nothing in place for him when he was ready to return and he ended up sitting around waiting to be brought back for another 3-4 months. Corrie is his bread and butter and he describes it as his favourite job so would he be prepared to take that time away again?

  11. I’ll be buying SFX on Wednesday. When they did lovely features on VII and VIII (‘there isn’t a duff show’ I remember Ed Bye enthusing) I stood in the shop and read it until the lady behind the counter became ENRAGED. Not this time – I will definitely be buying it.

  12. Rob Power – he’s the man whose name you’d love to touch, but you mustn’t touch! His name sounds good in your ear, but when you say it you mustn’t fear, ’cause his name can be said by anyone!

    Craig could do a Michael J Fox and film RD at night and Corrie during the day, and only have 2 hours of sleep each night. Or maybe Gary Wilmot could fill in as Lloyd.

  13. Thrilled to say I won a USB stick thanks to Richard – the LEGEND – Naylor!!!!

  14. “We had – we had – camaraderie.”
    “Was that the Italian boy?”
    “Yes, Trig. That was the Italian boy.”

  15. a lot of people on the official forums are still moaning about the clips! this is why i prefer G & T at least not everyone here is so bitter. I would never have believed we would get another series and I for one will enjoy them regardless. i watched the series V reruns yesterday and some of them episodes i wasnt that keen on myself at the time apart from one or two stand out moments.

    I dunno maybe its just me..

  16. > a lot of people on the official forums are still moaning

    Quelle surprise!

  17. >at least not everyone here is so bitter

    This place is going to the dogs.

  18. G&T Admin

    This place is going to the dogs.

    Don’t worry, you can rely on me.

  19. >this is why i prefer G & T at least not everyone here is so bitter

    You haven’t listened to the Back to Earth immediate reaction Dwarfcasts yet, have you?

  20. G&T Admin

    You’d think that G&T would be the place where everyone would be bitter. Weirdly enough, we’re decidedly chipper in comparison!

  21. You’d think that G&T would be the place where everyone would be bitter. Weirdly enough, we’re decidedly chipper in comparison!

    Im glad im not the only one thats noticed! Lol!

    @seb lol not really but i think everyone had at least one or two gripes on it. :)

    RDX looks great and you can tell even from the clips the quality is really good again!

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    I don’t think it’s about whether you’re reacting positively or negatively to this series, it’s just about being honest and fair. The vast majority of people on here won’t complain unless they have reason to, and then they will. As it happens, people are remaining positive until they’ve seen the show, which is obviously a good thing, but obviously I would never expect anyone on here to buy into the “IT’S NEW RED DWARF THEREFORE IT IS GOOD” guff.

  23. I’m glad the “areola” clip surfaced….it was starting to look like I was making it up. I like it up until Rimmer says “What was he then, Italian?”. Just seems like the joke has already been told and it doesn’t need making again.

  24. The cast seem fairly panicky about their lines in some places (except Danny). Craig only just about gets out that line, as though he’s rushing it. Maybe it’s just cause they’re in a stressful situation…

    In a way I wish they weren’t releasing these clips of single gags.

    > Just seems like the joke has already been told and it doesn’t need making again.

    This.

  25. Yes, flashbacks to something that is “far too good looking” to be a French movie star.

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    it does have that ‘VIII-style over-egging’ feel doesn’t it? Ah well, I genuinely believe that they are few and far between. (I can only speak for Ep4)

  27. Watching the Dave repeats over the weekend and remembered how much Cat saying “Don’t have to tell me twice” and then doing nothing was ruined by “I guess you do have to tell me twice”.

  28. Still haven’t seen the clip of Lister in space and I recorded quite a lot of Dwarf yesterday!

  29. Chris stroking that Dave logo gives me the raging horn.

  30. Watching the Dave repeats over the weekend and remembered how much Cat saying “Don’t have to tell me twice” and then doing nothing was ruined by “I guess you do have to tell me twice”.

    exactly, i think every series has a few duff gags in.

    i personally found White hole full of ‘over egging’

  31. youtubes interactive transcript for the new clip is as accurate as ever

    0:02know nothing about not
    0:04but documents we watched about breasts before ari always knew spanish
    0:07goalkeeper
    0:11but what was the italian
    0:14niece making series record ten starts october the politics clinton today

  32. The idea of two 50 year old men, watching a documentary just about breasts is pretty weird. I mean, it’s not unlikely, stuck in deep space and all that. But still, weird and sort of unrealistic. Which, again, I know is a stupid criticism in a sci-fi show. Just seems like a very unnatural conversation, like they’re speaking in set ups and punchlines, which is very VIII.

  33. Two lonely and pathetic men who are 3 million years away from the remotest possibility of a date with a woman decide to watch a documentary about breasts. Frankly it doesn’t seem that odd to me. No more than Cat and Lister watching The Flinstones to lust after Wilma and Betty.

  34. Two lonely and pathetic men who are 3 million years away from the remotest possibility of a date with a woman decide to watch a documentary about breasts. Frankly it doesn’t seem that odd to me. No more than Cat and Lister watching The Flinstones to lust after Wilma and Betty.

    Well, that works because it’s so strange, and absurd and comically desperate. Watching a documentary, which is mostly scientific, is a bit odd, like Travis Bickle’s idea of a great date.

    It’s also a mostly shit joke. Nobody talks like that, it’s completely alien.

  35. Two lonely and pathetic men who are 3 million years away from the remotest possibility of a date with a woman decide to watch a documentary about breasts. Frankly it doesn’t seem that odd to me. No more than Cat and Lister watching The Flinstones to lust after Wilma and Betty.

    Well, that works because it’s so strange, and absurd and comically desperate. Watching a documentary, which is mostly scientific, is a bit odd, like Travis Bickle’s idea of a great date.
    It’s also a mostly shit joke. Nobody talks like that, it’s completely alien.

    i think you will hate series X no matter what tbh

    alot of the jokes in previous series (1-6) have been joke after joke and people don’t talk like that either

  36. I heard that after reuniting a few years ago for the Bodysnatchers DVD Rob Grant said he would come back providing Doug brought the show back to the way it was pre-series VII and then take it from there………

  37. maybe in another dimension rob stayed and doug left, and in another rob and doug continued to write together ;)

  38. Nearly all of the dialogue in 1-6 is genuinely great, natural, funny and sometimes heartfelt. It’s never been so binary as that clip. It just sounds wrong.

    i think you will hate series X no matter what tbh
    alot of the jokes in previous series (1-6) have been joke after joke and people don’t talk like that either

  39. I felt there was deffo more funny jokes per minute in VI than the other. I barely laughed at all at ‘Bodyswap’.

  40. Then you’re a fucking moron.

  41. >maybe in another dimension rob stayed and doug left

    And in that dimension a whole bunch of people moan online about how it’s not been the same since Doug left, and Doug must have been the funny one/sci-fi one.

  42. I meant Timeslides not body swap lol

  43. I think Timeslides might be one of the funniest episodes of all. It’s near the top of my list of an episode I’d show a newbie because it’s packed full of memorable moments, doesn’t take itself seriously at all and that moment where the cat throws a snowball at Lister will always always get a laugh.

  44. I think there’s a degree of rose-tinted-glasses syndrome going on here. Yes whilst VII and VIII may have a few flat jokes and overacting, I-VI aren’t exactly 100% problem-free either.

    Anyway, it’s all a matter of opinion and taste.

  45. I’m not sure how or why, but Chris actually looks younger in that photo than he does in the show…

    I dunno if this has been suggested before, but I actually think Chris might be wearing a wig in the clips we’ve seen do far. Not a full one, but maybe a bit of, err, filling out as it were. A “piece”.

  46. I’m not sure how or why, but Chris actually looks younger in that photo than he does in the show…

    I dunno if this has been suggested before, but I actually think Chris might be wearing a wig in the clips we’ve seen do far. Not a full one, but maybe a bit of, err, filling out as it were. A “piece”.

    id say its more likely chris just hasnt had his hair touched up in make up, like robert is without his mask, id guess its just camera rehearsals

    alot of hair thickning products

  47. Can someone post the Rimmer logo clip, or is it available somewhere?

  48. Can someone post the Rimmer logo clip, or is it available somewhere?

    All the character logo clips are on Youtube. The links are on Gazpacho Soup. :)

  49. Can someone post the Rimmer logo clip, or is it available somewhere?

  50. Thanks for the link and the vid. :)

  51. Is anybody other than me not watching the clips or reading reviews?

  52. brand new clip featuring Kryten, Rimmer & Lister in the drive room.

  53. Den of Geek’s Trojan review is up, too. They certainly seem to like it, including special mention of the opening pair of scenes.

  54. G&T Admin

    brand new clip featuring Kryten, Rimmer & Lister in the drive room.

    Christ, they keep coming.

    I think this scene is GOOD.

  55. G&T Admin

    Den of Geek’s Trojan review is up, too. They certainly seem to like it, including special mention of the opening pair of scenes.

    That’s quite a good review. I think it sums up what will be pretty much be the general feeling among fans when the episode airs.

  56. hahaha loving the trailers, keep em coming Dave! :)

  57. When was that Drive Room clip on? Can I catch it on Dave Ja Vu if I hurry up?

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    Seems like it was first aired yesterday.

    That clip is a good example of a situation where the Series VII / VIII Kryten would start on his squeaky, whiny voice but I think Robert plays it much better here.

  59. I like how it references rimmers bitterness towards Kryten being more than a sanitation droid like in quarantine, when Rimmermoans to holly how he prefurred the guilt ridden earlier Kryten before his broken programming lol.

    Dont think there was any need for Lister in the joke.. but was still a giggle!

  60. Just rushed across to flat to have a look at assorted UKTV channels during their ad breaks. Didn’t see the DriveRoom clip anywhere, but saw a teaser on WATCH I’d not seen before – music sting, ‘The Brand New Smegging Series’ (caption), RDX logo, ‘04.10.12’ caption.

    Still waiting for the RD bit of the Doomsdave page to give us something. I keep checking during the week (ie not on Friday – update day) in case something happens when we’re not expecting it.

  61. RE: No need for Lister in the joke

    Remember this is a clip from an episode, not from a sketch show. Lister’s probably important to the scene in a way we can’t tell from that clip alone.

  62. I’m loving the barrage of new clips, but i’m starting to wonder about how many clips they’ll give us before the show starts. I don’t want to get to the series and already know half the jokes.

  63. Why do i get the feeling one of the weekend password clips might be the RDX title sequence?

  64. G&T Admin

    Why do i get the feeling one of the weekend password clips might be the RDX title sequence?

    I hope not. I’d prefer that particular surprise to be saved until broadcast.

  65. Just read the Den of Geek piece – very nice indeed, and even the detail about the title reveal makes me happy – but the comments – well, some of them…well, *one* of them – are unbelievable!

    It used to be my favourite show when I was around 13, but once robert llewellyn got involved with the writing it went downhill fast.

    There are no words…

    MEANWHILE…Have we all seen the new Doug Naylor interview on the Radio Times site? ‘Doug Naylor: “Three words to describe Red Dwarf X? I’ll give you four: Back. To. Its. Best”‘: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-09-18/doug-naylor-three-words-to-describe-red-dwarf-x-ill-give-you-four-back-to-its-best

    Accompanied by a picture of Doug from an early series documentary. When his hair was still brown. Bless. ;)

  66. I tried not to read the comments without facepalming lol! At least the den of geek reviewer knows their stuff. Particularly the 21st century comments reminding them of the ‘at the time’ references of series 1

  67. That drive room clip is absolutely dreadful. I’ve been keen on the rest of the clips that’ve been realised, but I can’t believe how disappointed I was with that one.

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    I’m surprised at the negative response to that clip, actually (it’s a similar story over in the TOS daycare centre). Is it really so bad?

  69. Lol TOF daycare centre seem to hate everything that isnt series 3 marooned lol!

    I must admit the driveroom does look really cramped from the pics and vids ive seen. Maybe its the angles

  70. Is it really so bad?

    I don’t think so.

  71. I’m surprised at the negative response to that clip, actually (it’s a similar story over in the TOS daycare centre). Is it really so bad?

    Same here. Seems like a perfectly good quick gag to me. The way some people on TOS are condemning the series as a dub having watched it is ridiculous.

  72. I think that Drive Room clip is great. I agree with what Cappsy said before – played great by Robert Llewellyn, and very Kryten. :)

  73. My only comment would be that Lister pointing out a smudge makes it slightly heightened and a bit sillier than it needs to be. It would have probably been better for Lister to stop Rimmer’s teasing and ask Kryten what the “wonderful news” was.

    But it’s not *bad*.

    >Particularly the 21st century comments reminding them of the ‘at the time’ references of series 1

    This again? Oh OK. I’ve no problem with Rimmer and Lister mentioning Marilyn Monroe, Norweb and (in the context which it was given) Kevin Keegan. That’s *not* the problem with Trojan. Lister does something that people in the 21st century do. That’s *not* the problem either. The fact that he’s able to? THAT’S the problem.

  74. Is the spacesuit Lister clip around anywhere online? That seems to be the only one I haven’t seen yet.

  75. My only comment would be that Lister pointing out a smudge makes it slightly heightened and a bit sillier than it needs to be. It would have probably been better for Lister to stop Rimmer’s teasing and ask Kryten what the “wonderful news” was.

    .

    thats what i was sort of getting at in my post :) but hey ho and i do agree with your other comment in a way

  76. I like Lister and Rimmer having a bit of camaraderie between them. Same reason I like the post clip.

  77. I didn’t like this bit when I saw it filmed, though I loved the scene that lead into it, but watching it now I’m enjoying it a lot more. Just as a nice little throwaway gag.

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