The First Day

Oh, it’s started, I knew it would. With precisely twelve days to go until the first episode of Red Dwarf XI goes before a live studio audience, Sunday 1st November marks the first day of pre-records, according to a tweet by Robert Llewellyn:

Marvellous. Danny has also tweeted a picture of himself in the same place, with a sign confirming that this is indeed Pinewood Studios. There’s also the important revelation that Danny is in Dressing Room 3, a factoid that excited him so much that he forgot how to spell the name of the show:

This news also provides us with a timely opportunity to ask you to do our work for us. We’ll be recording our now traditional series preview Dwarfcast on Tuesday night, summarising everything we know so far and speculating wildly on everything we don’t. And to pad this out a bit, we want you, our faithful readers, to help set the agenda. If there’s a particular topic you’d like us to discuss, or a specific question you’d like us to answer, please get in touch within the next 48 hours or so.

You can do this in one of three ways:

We promise to be equally as rude to our contributors as we were last time.

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  1. You’d think Danny John-Jules and Red Dwarf would get separate dressing rooms.

  2. who’s red dwaf playng then? i wasn’t expecting that you learn a lot.

  3. i did a danny john-jules and smegged up the spelling of the greatest show

  4. Topic 1. What will the tone of the show be? Overtly camp or subtly menacing?
    Topic 2. Will the set be A, understated, B, grey, or C, flashing and lit up like a motherfucker?
    Topic 3. How thin will the writing be? Will jokes be drawn out and repeated endlessly from one character to another without really adding anything other than the hope it might lead to someone doing a funny face, or will they be punchy?

    How’s that?

  5. How about:
    Topic 4. What would be worse than the character ‘Taiwan Tony’? Is there anything Doug could write that would actually stop everyone from watching?
    Topic 5. Over To Bill.

  6. I bet that the new title sequence will feature the cast as Kryten looking to camera just before the title card.

  7. I bet that they’ll also have Dibbley teeth and do a big ol’ cheesy grin.

  8. In Ace Runner wigs.

  9. i would like you to discuss:

    what is the essence of the show? if the whole show was just one ultimate joke or idea what would it be?

    how the media and fandom have changed and how that’s changed the show

    how to take your mind off the new serieseses

    right i better go: one of the knights has escaped from the fucking ar machine again

  10. In Ace Runner wigs.

    I fucking hate autocorrect.

  11. I like Taiwan Tony’s list of talking points (thanks TT). What are the scenarios that would stop you watching? I remember my disappointment with Krytie TV and Teh Petes nearly stopped me tuning in to (the moved about in the schedules to give the other shows a chance) Only The Good…

  12. I like Taiwan Tony’s list of talking points (thanks TT). What are the scenarios that would stop you watching? I remember my disappointment with Krytie TV and Teh Petes nearly stopped me tuning in to (the moved about in the schedules to give the other shows a chance) Only The Good…

    If the comprehension and cohesiveness of the show returned to Series 8 levels. Basically, if the episodes made as much sense/are explained as bad as Pete and Pete Part II: The Quickening, then that would be a turn-off. The pacing of how things happen/are explained is also tied into this. Entangled was a bit like this with the Professor E stuff (I’d argue the last minute rewrites explained a lot of that).

    Besides that, I’d still watch it. It’s Red Dwarf. We’ve arguably seen it’s lows so the only way is up from here.

    Well, here’s hoping.

    Topic: Do we think there will be a cliffhanger of any sort between XI and XII?

  13. >What are the scenarios that would stop you watching?

    When mediocre Red Dwarf outnumbers great Red Dwarf. I’m looking at the episode count at the end of Series XII with interest.

    Topic : In light of the fact that Red Dwarf is about to embark on its longest shoot, and that each recent series has been a reaction (of sorts) to the perceived faults of the previous one, do you think it’s wise (irrespective of budget/schedules) for Series XII to be in production before Series XI has even aired?

    Topic : What makes a good episode of Red Dwarf?

    Topic : Are you happy for this show to end if it’s past its “best”?

  14. To be honest, I’d still watch no matter how bad it got. I didn’t like series VII, still watched it. I *did* like series VIII a lot (Pete and Only The Good aside) when it went out, only in looking back I could see it’s flaws.
    I do think, though, that after RDXII, it’s probably time to call it quits. When it starts to move into Last of the Summer Wine in space territory, with Bobby into his sixties, still wondering round in a rubber mask…maybe that should be it.

  15. Topic: Assuming the cast remain in good health, at what arbitrary age should they be forced to retire?

  16. in entangled lister says that kochanski is 31. and there is a deleted scene about lister’s decrepid sperm. so dn has decided to write lister as much younger than cc. in a way this makes it harder to keep the show going than if they had decided to write about growing old in space which could be original and real.

  17. in entangled lister says that kochanski is 31. and there is a deleted scene about lister’s decrepid sperm. so dn has decided to write lister as much younger than cc. in a way this makes it harder to keep the show going than if they had decided to write about growing old in space which could be original and real.

    I think Lister meant she was 31 when she left, I think Lister was operating under the assumption that she has been frozen in there for over a decade…..I thought that was self explanatory honestly.

  18. ok, that was dumb of me but doesn’t affect the point i was trying to make. anyway: if kk’s 41 in entangled, that makes her 16 when lister was chatting her up in the drive room back in the first series. and the deleted scene and the hair extensions. my point was that a particular strategy in how the characters are dealt with has been forfeited. i’m not even saying it’s a bad thing because i really like series x – just saying that it does put a limit on how long they keep the show going.

  19. >that makes her 16 when lister was chatting her up in the drive room back in the first series.

    I’m not defending the suggestion that KK is 31. It was the most laughable bit about Entangled) as, even with plot contrivances, we should be able to assume that she’s a similar age to Lister…who’s clearly no longer “still 25”.

    However, can you show your working-out that this would make Kochanski 16 in The End, other than using real-world episod broadcast dates?

  20. If it makes any difference to anybody, Lister claims to be 28 in Series VII. In series VIII – which is, of course, set in the weeks immediately following VII, Kryten says that Kochanski is “hurtling towards thirty”.

    Just thought I’d throw that in.

  21. So there is actual dialogue which shows Lister and Kochanski to be the same age. Kochanski was 31 in the most awesome series IX when she took off in Blue Midget. 9 years later we rejoin the crew for Back To Earth. At this stage Lister is 40 but his memory of Kochanski is as she was at 31. Poor guy thought she was dead for 9 years.

  22. in answer to pete part 3’s question: no, because my point was precisely that you can’t work out the characters’ ages by using real-world episode broadcast dates! si’s comment reminds us how inconsistent and revisionist rd is.and that makes me realise that there are no missed oppertunities in rd – it can do absolutely anything. so actually i was wrong and they could explore growing older. or suddenly it’s a violin that lister’s been annoying everyone with all those years…

    the inconsistency/revisionary thing about rd stems form how it was made as a mainstream tv show in a time when viewers were more passive in how they stood to entertainment. when the fan attitude was a freaky minority of duane dibbley types. without the flood lighting of the internet the creators could obscure elements of the show (the first series was not repeated) – the mystery of old media served a kind of sleight-of-hand with reality.

    nowadays the same technique has a totally different affect and i can think of 2 times doug has done something really nice with this. hoagy the rouguey: it’s funny because of treating something that seems exceptional as a regular occurance, and it seems exceptional because we’ve never heard anything about it before. and i love the bit in back in the red where the crew are having their dialogue edited by rimmer like he’s rob and doug and has the power to change the crew’s reality.

  23. Didn’t Ellard say They were being nice to Chloë Annett?

  24. >no, because my point was precisely that you can’t work out the characters’ ages by using real-world episode broadcast dates!

    I’m in COMPLETE agreement with what you’re saying, just slightly confused by your reasoning. You’ve disproved a hypothesis that you, yourself (and no one else) has put forward to disprove (that Kochanski was 41 in Entangled).

    That’s the Chewbacca defence; it doesn’t really help in arguments

  25. I’ve only seen the Chewbacca defence episode of South Park once. But I will never forget.

  26. i think stainmonkey kind of implied k was 41 in entangled when they said she was 31 when she left and lister was operating under the assumption that she had been frozen in there for over a decade. seeing as k wasn’t frozen she’d be 41 in entangled. i’m just chucking ideas around and changing my mind as i go along. i didn’t realise there was any debate or anything.

    si and ridley proposed cast retirement as a dwarfcast topic and i was suggesting that the writing and production were shying away from addressing growing old in favour of bold cartoon archetypes and that this meant they would have to retire sooner than later. i gave 3 examples of how the show seemed to be doing this. stainmonkey pointed out that one of them was dumb which was totally fair but it was still true what i was saying. then i changed my mind when i realised the show is totally inconsitant anyway and they could just change strategy whenever.

  27. You mean Slainmonkey, but Stainmonkey is a much better name.

    Discussion questions: Do you think the new series are going to have some kind of big story arc, whether it be searching for Kochanski, finally getting back to Earth, or something else? How heavily to the fore do you think something like that might be? Do you think XII will be the last series? Would you like to see Hogey again?

  28. Just realised I’m probably too late with those because “please get in touch within the next 48 hours or so”. Bollocks anyway.

  29. > i didn’t realise there was any debate or anything.

    A solipsist’s approach to commenting. Love it.
    (I would not like to see Hogey again. Unless he has been stripped down for parts… Ashtrays or something.)

  30. always been surprised more people aren’t solipsists

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