Red Dwarf XI Trailer Analysis

Following yesterday’s trailer-for-a-trailer, the full thing has arrived – premiering in the middle of a repeat of Parallel Universe on Dave. Interestingly, there’s a few shots from the teaser that aren’t in the trailer, most notably the crashed ship that may or may not be the Nova 5, or at least another ship from the same fleet. But what do we have in this forty second bundle of joy? Watch it on Youtube below, then read our shot-by-shot analysis.

We start in full letterboxed glory with a very wide shot of Red Dwarf…

…which then dissolves into…

…Red Dwarf flying past an astronomically improbable triple solar system. Meanwhile, Rimmer’s picking up life signs in Corridor Beta 12. The rapid fire sequence that follows breaks down like this:

Torches searching through a foggy school assembly hall.

A wobbly POV shot of a red light at the end of a tunnel.

Lister, Cat and Kryten edging along a dark and gloomy location – dark and gloomy seem to be the bywords for the promotional material so far, and this seems to be the same scene that the second cast photo was taken from.

Then a big old spaceship! It’s a lovely build, and from the handful of frames we glimpse here, it seems like the composition of the effects shots has really stepped up a gear from Series X. It would appear that there are in fact three similar-looking ships in this shot; a further two are just about visible at the bottom of the frame.

Next, a glimpse of our old friend: the massive scary fuck-off robot. It really is a stunning design. Now, it’s not clear whether the crew are hiding from and/or hunting down him in this sequence; it could be that shots from several different episodes have been mixed together for the purposes of this trailer.

Next, a brief shot of a shutter closing, before…

…we return to Corridor Beta 12, as Lister announces that that’s where they are. The “south entrance”, specifically. The bigger sign to the right reads “Beta 12”

Cut back to Rimmer, who informs the others that they should be able to see the life forms he’s detected. This gives us a decent look at his station in Starbug’s cockpit, complete with classic spinny wireframe animation on one of the monitors. It is indeed very blue indeed here; the mood matching the atmospheric lighting of the location footage.

The following sequence has Rimmer frantically directing the crew to avoid the life forms, while the visuals alternate between further shots of them, and various threatening things. I won’t bother detailing the repetitive shots, but here are the other bits:

A shadowy profile shot of Ol’ Scary Bugger.

A different armed baddy, in a red-tinted pumphouse-looking location. It’s been pointed out that the costume looks to be recycled from the piss-poor Doctor Who episode The Rings of Akhaten. I’m glad that other people spotted that, as I can’t remember ever having seen that character before, but hopefully the costume isn’t cursed or anything.

Then, an extremely brief shot of some water bursting out from something. It kind of reminds me of the smashed snowglobe from Rimmer’s death video.

A much closer shot of the big scary thing shows us a little more detail in his face. Above his piranha-like teeth are what appear to be piranha-like eyes. He also has a handy music stand attached to his chest.

Before long, Lister realises that the life forms Rimmer is referring to could well be the three of them. It definitely raised a small chuckle in my living room, although I did see it coming. It’s futile to try and extrapolate the quality or style of humour we’ll see in the series from the trailers – the best jokes in Red Dwarf are too intricate for such a medium anyway – but I’m glad that there were jokes on show, as the promo material so far has been showcasing the effects-heavy sci-fi stuff far more than the sit-com element. I like that the setup of Rimmer directing the mission from afar is back, following Back To Reality and indeed Back To Earth.

Next up, the opening theme tune kicks in and it’s montage time, with lots of little visual snippets, presumably taken from all across the series.

Some sort of sonic boom emerging behind Starbug as it speeds away from a planet. I’m not quite sure about the compositing on this one – again, very hard to tell from such a short shot – but the model itself looks lovely.

Then a good old nameplate shot. Those with a better eye for these things than me will have to tell us whether this is reused from X, or a brand new shot.

Your man from Doctor Who in his red room again, but now firing a gun…

…seemingly at Lister, as the sparks fly past his head from a pipe to his right.

This is followed by a standard Cat noise… but who’s that on the left, sashaying away from frame? It’s impossible to tell if it’s one of our crew in a different costume, or if it’s a guest character of whatever age, gender or species. But from the way they’re moving, could this possibly be another Cat?

Starbug crashing beautifully onto a beautiful sandy landscape. This appears to be the scene from that behind-the-scenes shot; if so, I guess this answers the question of whether it was sand or snow.

Rimmer being dragged to the ground by a mysterious blue light!

Another new spaceship exploding! The camera appears to shake from the shockwaves, which is a lovely touch.

Kryten being shot in the forehead with blowpipe darts, while Rimmer balances a bazookoid on his shoulder!

Rimmer being spirited away! He’s certainly being put through the ringer this series.

Starbug flying through some kind of space station / giant landing bay / death star, while everything explodes around it! This is impressive. The range of different effects shots signals yet another step up from last time; the only actiony bits in X all came from The Beginning, but as far as we can tell, there’s going to be good stuff throughout XI.

Cat and Lister – who’s clutching some important paperwork – getting shot in the back! Another impression I’m getting from this trailer is that there’s going to be a lot more dangerous situations and antagonists this time round. I could be wrong – you could probably get the same impression if you were to cut a trailer for X that just had Sim Crawford, Pree and the Dominator – but from this and the synopses, it seems that the crew are going to be in a lot of peril, in a Series V and VI type way.

Then we’ve got another joke, which Rimmer sets up whilst wearing a rather fetching hard-light-blue dressing gown. I see he’s kept his battleplan timetable from The Beginning. It has no practical purpose any more, but from a character point of view, maybe he’s kept it to remind him of the lessons he learned that day?

Lister delivers the punchline whilst enjoying a delicious 99, with his Jim Bexley Speed photo prominently on display. The gag is a good quickie, which will presumably be analysed to death over the next few weeks until all the humour is sucked out of it.

There’s just one more shot of debris falling around the crew – interestingly, the only shot of the four of them together in the trailer – before a nicely designed endboard:

But yeah, I probably could have done without “Smegtember”. This is taken from the Youtube clip; the broadcast version simply says “coming soon”. TV trailers tend to leave the dates off until they’re more like a couple of weeks away. Insert standard comments about the start date and “exclusive to Dave” here.

Overall, it most certainly does the job. It’s exciting, it’s impressive and it gives the impression that Series XI is taking Red Dwarf to places it’s never been before. The glimpses of mysterious places and characters are incredibly intriguing, and the effects shots in both the teaser and the trailer look fantastic. My only major criticism is that the grade seems very very dark in places, which I’m not sure is ideal for an audience comedy. But the trailer could easily be unrepresentative of the series, so I’m trying not to make judgement calls until we’ve seen the full episodes.

So, what details have we missed? Let us know in the comments and we may discuss your small points in tomorrow’s DwarfCast.

ADDITIONAL: Mere moments after hitting publish, a different cut of the trailer was broadcast on Dave. It omits the Rimmer-detecting-life-forms stuff, starting with the Starbug shot. But at the end, instead of the nostril joke, there’s a snippet of a scene where Kryten, Lister and Rimmer are visible; Kryten complains that a cold chill has just gone straight down his spine, before Lister admits that he’s just spilled lager down him.

So, multiple variants, is it? Keep your eyes peeled…

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  1. We’re waiting for a Trailer Trailer shot-by-shot too y’know.
    That last shot of ‘debris’ falling around the crew, which was also in the teaser, looks more organic than debris to me.

    I’m guessing the blowpipe darts are tranquilisers from the Evil MediBot (can’t wait for Kerry Shale’s voice).

    Those wide shots at the starts are incredibly beautiful. Nice to see some proper space shots again. I wasn’t so keen on the X fly bys, too many dark close ups. It’s good to see some sense of scale again. That second one is reminiscent of Dimension Jump, the first feels like the sort of thing they were trying to go for in VII.

  2. According to somebody on TOS, the bunk room scene is “pantomime”, and according to another person it’s “self-parody”. I think they’re trying say they didn’t like it, but they also want sound smart by using words they heard other people call bits of Red Dwarf they didn’t like.

  3. I thought the bunk room scene was meta.

  4. Ice cream clearly not ice cream but whip cream, trailer ruined!

    All joking aside I’m actually really enthused after seeing this trailer and I feel that it all looks much more interesting then anything in series X!

  5. My only criticism so far – Starbug looks strange in both flying shots we see of it. The ship is pointing upwards as it flies forwards, almost like they filmed it from below and not head on. Also the blur effect added as it flies over the camera when we first see it looks awful. We don’t need those kind of effects to make us think “ooh it must be flying really fast in that scene”. Apart from that though I’m digging what we’ve been shown so far.

  6. Those with a better eye for these things than me will have to tell us whether this is reused from X, or a brand new shot.

    Considering they have the 24-foot bigature for close-ups now, I can’t imagine they’d reuse a close-up of the 8-foot model from X.

    Bigature is a fucking stupid word.

    The gag is a good quickie, which will presumably be analysed to death over the next few weeks until all the humour is sucked out of it.

    Happened on TOS within minutes.

  7. I do wish people wouldn’t use “pantomime” as an insult. Pantomime, like sitcom, is an artform worthy of respect in its own right, and there’s not much between the two anyway. It’s also, crucially, a bigger ingredient of Red Dwarf than it’s given credit for.

    Anyway, if pantomime is supposedly the antithesis of classic-era Red Dwarf, I’d hate to see how they’d describe the boxer shorts scene in Polymorph, the bit in Legion where Rimmer gets his dinner all over him, the ‘space mumps’ and ‘escort boots’ scenes in Justice, the car chase mime in Back To Reality, the dance display in Demons & Angels, the giant polystyrene hot dog sausage, Captain Hollister getting gunged whilst wearing a chicken costume, Kryten throwing soup over Rimmer’s bed, Lister diving into a plate of mashed potatoes, the Cat juggling with a roast chicken, Rimmer with a beehive wig, Kryten disco dancing with Blob Camille, Tongue Tied, the gingham dress, Mr Flibble, Rimmer singing George Gershwin in his underpants or virtually everything that ever happens in the Laredo scenes of Gunmen Of The Apocalypse. As a TV show, it’s only one step away from throwing sweets at the audience and always has been.

  8. I wish I had thought of that list when I was arguing that pantomime is a uselessly vague word in the Red Dwarf fandom, because it’s employed for anything from a single line delivery somebody didn’t particularly care for to stuff like the Blue Midget dance, where it legitimately applies. I explained that I was pointing this out because somebody who saw Twentica called it pantomime, and I have literally no idea what to take away from that because everyone has a wildly different personal definition of the term. All I wanted was clarity. In response I was accused of “policing people’s opinions on the new episodes”.

    Even though you’re all massive cunts, I like G&T better than TOS.

  9. It’s all looking pretty bloody good isn’t it? Might just be my shit eyesight but in that shot of Rimmer being dragged to the ground covered in blue light, I can’t make out an ‘H’ on his forehead. Slightly reminiscent of his death scene from Me². No idea what that signifies but there you go. Also, that shot of Starbug crashing is a fucking delight.

  10. Might just be my shit eyesight but in that shot of Rimmer being dragged to the ground covered in blue light, I can’t make out an ‘H’ on his forehead.

    It’s from a flashback explaining how Rimmer went from being Ace to back on Red Dwarf.

    I went back and watched the Series X trailer for comparison, and it’s…well, just kind of a bunch of clips in succession, and it’s not visually exciting at all. There’s only two model shots: the Blue Midget fly-by, which isn’t that great, and X’s Red Dwarf bigature, which always bugged me because what the fuck part of the ship is it supposed to be?

    This here is a real trailer. X’s trailer is really only exciting if you’re actively looking forward to the show, but XI’s would grab anyone’s attention.

  11. I do wish people wouldn’t use “pantomime” as an insult. Pantomime, like sitcom, is an artform worthy of respect in its own right, and there’s not much between the two anyway. It’s also, crucially, a bigger ingredient of Red Dwarf than it’s given credit for.

    Anyway, if pantomime is supposedly the antithesis of classic-era Red Dwarf, I’d hate to see how they’d describe the boxer shorts scene in Polymorph, the bit in Legion where Rimmer gets his dinner all over him, the ‘space mumps’ and ‘escort boots’ scenes in Justice, the car chase mime in Back To Reality, the dance display in Demons & Angels, the giant polystyrene hot dog sausage, Captain Hollister getting gunged whilst wearing a chicken costume, Kryten throwing soup over Rimmer’s bed, Lister diving into a plate of mashed potatoes, the Cat juggling with a roast chicken, Rimmer with a beehive wig, Kryten disco dancing with Blob Camille, Tongue Tied, the gingham dress, Mr Flibble, Rimmer singing George Gershwin in his underpants or virtually everything that ever happens in the Laredo scenes of Gunmen Of The Apocalypse. As a TV show, it’s only one step away from throwing sweets at the audience and always has been.

    I get what you’re saying, but surely you can see a difference between at least some of those scenes and similar stuff from XIII onwards? Many of the bits you mention are actually executed in a pretty deadpan fashion (mumps, beehive, Mr Flibble for example) and they don’t pander to the audience quite so much so they’re far less distracting than the broader elements of XIII onwards.

    Even Tongue Tied is worlds away from the dancing Blue MIdget.

  12. those scenes and similar stuff from XIII onwards?

    the broader elements of XIII onwards.

    The show goes to shit in Series 13? That’s a let down.

  13. I think you know what he meant.

    The final joke isn’t pantomime but it is a pretty well-worn territory for a Red Dwarf joke. The characters making fun of each other’s appearance using a strained metaphor is something the show has been doing since the beginning (or The End, anyway). it’s a cheap laugh.

    I’ve no real objections to it, except for its use at the end of the trailer here. Red Dwarf isn’t the easiest show to provide clip-friendly, context-less dialogue, so I guess this one was an easy fit. Doesn’t make it particularly funny though.

  14. Has the Lister-spilling-lager-on-Kryten version turned up anywhere?

  15. I honestly don’t think that there’s any format-breaking reason that the Cat *shouldn’t* have danced with Blue Midget – the issue with that scene is the execution – the effects limitations leading to static, undynamic direction, the inappropriate music and the grating sound design. Big Croft/Lloyd-esque set pieces are perfectly in keeping with the show when done well, it’s just another scene designed to show off the cast’s talents as from day one.

    There are loads of crowbarred in excuses for Chris Barrie to do impressions and voices in the GN years, for instance, and Lovett’s Holly gets to do a lot of what is basically standup. Variety, LE, pantomime – take any of those out of the mix and it’s not Red Dwarf.

  16. Quick note on the ‘multiple ships’ shot – as well as the two at the bottom of the frame, there are also two others clearly visible behind the main foreground ship. Look near the bottom of the ship on either side – you’ll see two smaller versions of it visible in the background, one of which is overlapping the main foreground ship.

    As to why they’d be encountering a fleet of at least five ships… Just from looking at the existing synopses, I honestly have no idea. Be interesting to find out, though! = D

  17. G&T Admin

    Bonus points from going from letterboxed to full-frame once the joke comes in. Using aspect ratio changes to enhance a joke, rather than trying to be pretentiously artistic.

  18. Bonus points from going from letterboxed to full-frame once the joke comes in. Using aspect ratio changes to enhance a joke, rather than trying to be pretentiously artistic.

    I thought that was genius. The build up has real tension to it, and everything about it screams “sci-fi action/horror movie” to anyone who doesn’t recognize the characters.

    The problem with comedy trailers is shows like Red Dwarf aren’t simply composed of interchangeable one-liners like the average brain-dead sitcom (i.e. anything from Chuck Lorre), and I’m sure most of the show’s jokes in the show lose something when taken out of context by themselves. The other thing is, when watching the show itself, if there’s a joke you don’t particularly care for you know there’s another one coming almost immediately. The trailer only gives you two, and if you didn’t like them it can give an overly negative impression. Just try to remember if you’re judging based on only two jokes, compared to how many there are even in just thirty seconds of an actual episode.

    You can’t judge how funny something is from a trailer, but the trailer is all we have. It’s frustrating.

    I honestly don’t think that there’s any format-breaking reason that the Cat *shouldn’t* have danced with Blue Midget

    Picture that happening in literally any other series and tell me it doesn’t feel completely wrong for the show. It doesn’t even make any kind of sense in Series VIII. A lot of people excuse the silliness as it happening inside a simulation – but can you explain to me WHY they would design a simulation where the shuttle craft can do a dance routine when everything else in it is designed to mimic reality as closely as possible? And why none of the characters noticed that this makes no kind of sense? Even though it turned out to be the luck virus helping them, Kochanski noticed something was off when their escape seemed too easy yet nobody objects to Cat leading a dance number with a bunch of spaceships as being kind of strange.

    It makes no sense and breaks the reality of the show, even by the absurdly over the top standards of Series VIII. They should have taken all that time and effort it took to create that sequence and put it into fixing the scripts.

  19. The show’s internal logic isn’t always the soundest, to say the least, but usually daft, unrealistic bits are used as brief jokes (the Scutters having babies) rather than entire set pieces. Even when I first watched the show as a kid, I remember being really embarrassed by the Blue Midget dance. Why and how was it dancing? Where was the music coming from? I had the same thoughts about Cat’s colour co-ordinated organs and polyrhythmic pulse. These ideas are so cartoony that taking up an entire scene with them has the effect of dragging everything else down to a cartoon level.

  20. usually daft, unrealistic bits are used as brief jokes (the Scutters having babies)

    This always bothered me. It pretty much felt like a Series VIII joke.

    These ideas are so cartoony that taking up an entire scene with them has the effect of dragging everything else down to a cartoon level.

    The closest thing I can think of to that outside of VIII is Cat’s sense of smell in Series VI being able to not only pick up things in space outside the ship but pick them up before the scanners. They basically gave him a ridiculous super power, and removing it probably wouldn’t affect the show at all. I kind of get the impression if Red Dwarf had continued with Rob and Doug it still would’ve ended up heading towards Series VIII-style farce, albeit with coherent storytelling and a lot funnier.

  21. I grew carbuncles waiting for yesterday’s trailer, it was agonising. It was like waiting on hold for a Stirmaster. But the experience wasn’t wasted. Even though I had to sit through the horrible daytime Dave edited versions of Series II, it was fun and delightful watching Red Dwarf at the same time as fellow fans and tweeting and chatting at the same time. Another reminder why I need to wait for the TV broadcasts. Then finally, the very long awaited trailer dropped . . .

    I’ve had 24 hours to digest the trailer. I’ve watched it over and over, been through it shot by shot, read the analysis, and I can say that I feel the same sense of wonder, excitement and . . . wonder that I felt as a kid in the early 90’s. It’s only just sunk in today that Starbug is back, and the model shots look beautiful. The jokes they revealed made me laugh, and it looks like they really have recaptured the feel of IV, V and VI.

    The trailer has confirmed to me that the slime has truly come home this time. Series XI looks worlds away from Series X, and so much the better for it.

    We’ve had the starter, now time for the main course!!

  22. Can we applaud Doug now, please? This looks fucking great!

    Things I particularly love…

    – Those long shots of the Dwarf…..man!
    – Lighting, smoke, explosions, basically stuff to give some much-needed atmosphere back to proceedings.
    – The new medi-bot bad guy looking like the best enemy they’ve had since V, if not ever.
    – Kryten’s mask…at LAST it’s decent!
    – Everything to do with Starbug. It’s what we’ve been waiting for since VII, really. In fact, XI is shaping up to be what VII could and should have been.
    – Cat doing, well, a Cat noise! It’s perfect. :)

  23. The tiny clip of Red Kryten that got captured on the G&T Twitter feed gives me the same chills as the tiny series 6 trailers back in the day. I want it now but this build up is very exciting!

  24. That costume is fucking amazing. Also, is that our first glimpse of the Science Room everyone is so keen on?

  25. That costume is fucking amazing. Also, is that our first glimpse of the Science Room everyone is so keen on?

    It is. It’s a fantastic set, such an improvement on the X drive room.

  26. Just for you, Katie, we’ll go with contrived instead.
    How’s that working for you?
    Please don’t insult people with ridiculous ideas that you just made up based on personal histories that you know nothing about. It only serves to make you look stupid in the end. Let other people have an opinion without whining on about the (completely appropriate) choice of words that they use.

  27. P.S. Trailer looks splendid and tremendous! Those visual FX are to die for, and everything from the lifeforms gag to the bunk scene was just right. Especially liking the more sinister tone – maybe Twentica was a one off and the rest of the series will be more inline with what the trailers are teasing. Fingers crossed.

  28. UGHHH……does this bickering really need to span across 2 different sites?

  29. UGHHH……does this bickering really need to span across 2 different sites?

    Apparently so. Complain to the one who brought it here.

  30. G&T Admin

    I’ve no idea what bickering has taken place elsewhere, but yeah, I have no intention whatsoever of getting involved. Be nice.

  31. someone should cut together a trailer for series v using the music and timing to match that of xi

  32. Does anyone know why Gazpacho-soup is down? Haven’t been able to access it for 5 days now.

  33. G&T Admin

    It’s working for me. Sadly.

  34. >Does anyone know why Gazpacho-soup is down? Haven’t been able to access it for 5 days now.

    We’ve been migrating the site. Have you tried clearing your cache?

  35. Apparently so. Complain to the one who brought it here.

    I apologize. My experiences with the fanbase have been getting increasingly negative in the past few months, and I forgot that what bothers me usually doesn’t bother anyone else, at least not nearly to the same degree.

    As you were.

  36. Apparently so. Complain to the one who brought it here.

    I apologize. My experiences with the fanbase have been getting increasingly negative in the past few months, and I forgot that what bothers me usually doesn’t bother anyone else, at least not nearly to the same degree.
    As you were.

    No worries Katie — hope we can have some real conversations at some point.

  37. >Does anyone know why Gazpacho-soup is down? Haven’t been able to access it for 5 days now.

    We’ve been migrating the site. Have you tried clearing your cache?

    Done — thanks!

  38. No worries Katie — hope we can have some real conversations at some point.

    I’ve been lurking since 2008. The Series XI buzz convinced to start adding my two cents, but because I’m so long-winded and pedantic it usually runs about a dollar twenty-five.

    The Starbug in the exploding factory-place shot is a really nice example of a digital matte painting. It’s the kind of thing the show could have feasibly made in the late ’90s, albeit a lot cheaper looking, if they had focused on integrating models and computer effects rather than just one or the other. I mean, VII could have had a nice model Starbug zooming past forty-seven shitty CG planets per episode.

  39. No worries Katie — hope we can have some real conversations at some point.

    I’ve been lurking since 2008. The Series XI buzz convinced to start adding my two cents, but because I’m so long-winded and pedantic it usually runs about a dollar twenty-five.
    The Starbug in the exploding factory-place shot is a really nice example of a digital matte painting. It’s the kind of thing the show could have feasibly made in the late ’90s, albeit a lot cheaper looking, if they had focused on integrating models and computer effects rather than just one or the other. I mean, VII could have had a nice model Starbug zooming past forty-seven shitty CG planets per episode.

    I don’t know if you were around or not back then, and watching RD, but in the late 90s practical FX were pretty much frowned upon, and CGI was the ‘cool new thing’ for terrestrial TV. In fact, a lot of films and television shows were often ridiculed for attempting practical VFX in that era, and the shiny new CGI had everyone excited for a good … well, six minutes, at least.

  40. I don’t know if you were around or not back then, and watching RD, but in the late 90s practical FX were pretty much frowned upon, and CGI was the ‘cool new thing’ for terrestrial TV. In fact, a lot of films and television shows were often ridiculed for attempting practical VFX in that era, and the shiny new CGI had everyone excited for a good … well, six minutes, at least.

    I’m aware. There was a similar craze for 3D video games in the mid ’90s, and plenty of franchises that didn’t really work in 3D moved to it.

    There’s always a new technology that everyone’s so excited to use they don’t stop to question whether or not it’s even a good idea.

  41. I don’t know if you were around or not back then, and watching RD, but in the late 90s practical FX were pretty much frowned upon, and CGI was the ‘cool new thing’ for terrestrial TV. In fact, a lot of films and television shows were often ridiculed for attempting practical VFX in that era, and the shiny new CGI had everyone excited for a good … well, six minutes, at least.

    I’m aware. There was a similar craze for 3D video games in the mid ’90s, and plenty of franchises that didn’t really work in 3D moved to it.
    There’s always a new technology that everyone’s so excited to use they don’t stop to question whether or not it’s even a good idea.

    Hindsight is a marvelous thing.

  42. Here’s the other TV spot with Lister spilling lager on Kryten.

  43. Hindsight is a marvelous thing.

    Regardless, I’m just glad to see Red Dwarf illustrating that miniature effects still have a place in 2016 because over-reliance on CGI has been the norm for a very long time.

    I wish I hadn’t had that lager gag spoiled for me before I saw the video. I like it a lot.

  44. Self edited for potential shit stirring

    Off topic re: The article but how come every time I go on TOS forums it’s always nasty arguing? There was somebody on there recently saying that they should chop half the picture off and make Red Dwarf 16:9 on bluray. That doesn’t make any sense in any way shape or form.

    Nowt wrong with a good discussion but it devolves into shit slinging more often than it should over there.

    Thank Christ for G&T and their premiere Red Dwarf Forum Experience (TM)

    On topic – I think I actually preferred the teaser to the trailer. They were both good but that teaser was saying “Holy shit” out loud good.

  45. I’m just glad to see Red Dwarf illustrating that miniature effects still have a place in 2016 because over-reliance on CGI has been the norm for a very long time.

    You’re preaching to the choir on that score — I’ve been advocate of practical FX for well over a decade now (especially considering I have friends who work in that very industry).

  46. I like that they made the focus of the trailer on the visuals. I’m already expecting the show to be funny, but I wasn’t expecting it to look this good. In fact before it came out I was actually thinking that I’d rather see model shots as teasers than have jokes spoiled for me, but I didn’t think it was a realistic expectation.

  47. those scenes and similar stuff from XIII onwards?

    the broader elements of XIII onwards.
    The show goes to shit in Series 13? That’s a let down.

    Ho Ho. You just can’t help yourself, can you?

  48. … how come every time I go on TOS forums it’s always nasty arguing?…

    There are a few users on there, if not one user with a few accounts (it wouldn’t surprise me, if that was the case, the guy does seem a bit touched), and all they do is post bullshit, baiting posts for arguments and nonsensical jibberish and yet they are allowed to continue to do it. I much prefer vising here to talk about the show than TOS’s forum.

  49. Maybe it is not my place to throw this particular fly in the ointment as someone who hasn’t posted since the launch of series X, but for me it comes down to this:

    It would be lovely if it all looked shiny and Ridley-Scott-Esque, but what I pray for more than anything, on my knees, night after night, is that Doug has had the time and the space (pardon the pun) to create and develop some outstanding scripts – lean plots, cutting edge science, an element of genuine peril – and grud damn it some bloody huge woofers. If it has all that, then the walls can wobble till the skutters wheel home….

  50. Surprised it’s been deleted, it wasn’t particularly spoilery. It was a still of Kryten, and we know that *he’s* in it.

  51. Surprised it’s been deleted, it wasn’t particularly spoilery. It was a still of Kryten, and we know that *he’s* in it.

    To be fair there were words on the screen. Whether it be dialogue or directions I’m not sure, but that might be a factor into why it’s gone. Nothing spoilery besides that though, no.

  52. Surprised it’s been deleted, it wasn’t particularly spoilery. It was a still of Kryten, and we know that *he’s* in it.

    To be fair there were words on the screen. Whether it be dialogue or directions I’m not sure, but that might be a factor into why it’s gone. Nothing spoilery besides that though, no.

    It said ‘ADR Kryten for’ …something or other. So direction, I’d say.

  53. That Minotaur line was clever. They should’ve used that in the full trailer instead of the show’s eight hundredth joke about Rimmer’s nostrils.

  54. The only bad thing about the effect shots is my pet peeve, which is the windows on Red Dwarf.

    Back in the days of the original Star Trek, it made sense that windows were just big blobs of white light. With modern improved lighting and especially the fact that the show is being filmed in HD however, having the same type of giant glowing white panels just screams fake. Would look better if they just turned the interior lights off entirely.

  55. Would look better if they just turned the interior lights off entirely.

    Or just had scattered windows lit, since there are only four crew members and no reason to leave every light in the five mile ship turned on.

  56. no reason to leave every light in the five mile ship turned on.

    They must owe Norweb a fortune.

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