DwarfCast 90 – Live Cured Instant Reaction

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The long wait is finally over. Red Dwarf is BACK and so are our LIVE DwarfCasts – in a change from Series XI, these are now happening at UKTV pace, meaning they’re back to being (almost) Instant Reactions. First up, a rather under-strength G&T team was represented by Ian Symes, joined by a trio of guests: Jo Sharples of The Official Red Dwarf Fan Club fame, Helena Raymonde of hanging round car parks with Robert Llewellyn fame, and Clayton Hickman of actual fame.

Yes, the former editor of Doctor Who Magazine and writer for The Sarah Jane Adventures and Wizards vs Aliens popped round to G&T Towers to chat all things Cured. Topics included Hitler, wheelchair ramps, shooting someone in the face, UKTV Originals branding, Hitler again, Stalin’s lookalikes, the quality of Series XII’s special effects, the quality of Series XII’s episode titles, more Hitler, and whether or not Lister should just fuck off. Thanks to all of you who listened live, but for those who didn’t, here it is in full:

DwarfCast 90 – Live Cured Instant Reaction (78.2MB)

There’ll be fewer minor celebrities but more G&T members next week, as we tackle The One Where Everyone’s Kryten. Do join us LIVE at 9pm on Friday 13th (uh-oh) October for that. In the meantime, look out for our Series XII title sequence analysis soon, and our full in-depth review of Cured in the coming days.

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  1. I took Hitler’s not-really-Hitler-droidness as the show being careful to distance itself from any potential reading of the historical figure as being simply misjudged.

  2. Oh, and Captain Paxo’s currently doing the rounds on radio for KFC.

  3. Yes, the irony of Mac McDonald doing KFC ads has given me a lot of amusement. I think McDonalds are getting Colonel O’Bonelessbanquet for theirs.

  4. Why did you combine three separate people’s opinions into one though?

  5. The in-joke is laying there, in pain, and you’re just kicking it in the stomach.

  6. KFC often combine three separate chicken arseholes into one (not mc) nugget though.

  7. Can we please have Clayton Hickman on the show, slagging everything off, every week?? :D

    His comments about Lister are pretty interesting, and fair, I’d say, up to a point. People keep talking about Chris not being able to play the character anymore, but both he and Craig are simply playing evolved versions of Rimmer and Lister, as opposed to pretending like they’re still in their 20s with no character development. The Cat is more like a cartoon character, so I guess it’s easier to pitch him at the same level, whether he’s 30 or 50. Lister not being the same as during 1-VI doesn’t make him a lesser character or the show lesser in any real way, IMO. The idea of Lister being ‘pompous’ is pretty funny though, and true, to a degree, when you think about it. :p

    Btw while ‘Closing Time’ IS a shit title, at least it’s not taking the piss out of a beloved property and its entire fanbase by having the episode called ‘Three Cybermen and a Baby’. xD Clayton is entertaining though. :D I wonder if Phil Ford is a Red Dwarf fan? Phil should be running Doctor Who IMO, he’s bloody brilliant.

  8. To be honest, it feels like DJJ is playing the Cat a bit Flanderised these days, particularly in the poker scene of Cured. He pulls a lot more faces and does a more consistently Cat-y voice. He really does put in some terrific stuff though, and a lot of woofers are attributed to him, so it might be quid pro quo

  9. I take it the discussion regarding the wheel chair ramps was about that the ship would surely already have something along those lines….and not that anyone was offended by Rimmer’s comment. It was a good gag and typical of Rimmer’s character.

  10. I’ve never seen any wheelchair ramps on the Dwarf but they do have lifts seemingly to every floor.

  11. Okay, but Starbug has stair to get on. Did they just have a spare ramp that was really, really long so it would be an alright angle to get him up there?

  12. That feeling of not liking Robert’s mention of political correctness just thought i would add Chris said something similar at the brittas Reunion in relation to TV comedy in a video interview. I dont personally have any aprehension ahead of future episodes myself on that regard, Will judge on the watch.

  13. I take it the discussion regarding the wheel chair ramps was about that the ship would surely already have something along those lines….and not that anyone was offended by Rimmer’s comment. It was a good gag and typical of Rimmer’s character.

    Listen and find out :)

  14. People keep talking about Chris not being able to play the character anymore, but both he and Craig are simply playing evolved versions of Rimmer and Lister, as opposed to pretending like they’re still in their 20s with no character development.

    I think Chris can play the character fine, its just the writing and direction that decides how broad he acts.

    Although i would argue that Rimmer feels like he has evolved backwards in many ways because series 1 was when he was obsessed with being an officer and telling lister what to do and then series 2 onwards he kinda calmed down with only some episodes showing he still wanted to achieve greatness but only when there was a door open to do so.

    Series 10 onwards seems to put heavy emphasis on Rimmer wanting to be an officer or just have authority over anything.

  15. If it leads to funny gags who gives a smeg.

  16. I presume this has been discussed to death before, but is this the original Rimmer returned from being Ace, or the nano-restored Rimmer who’s had the bad luck to die ‘again’ between VIII and BtE? The latter would explain the reboot on the character development.

  17. > is this the original Rimmer returned from being Ace, or the nano-restored Rimmer who’s had the bad luck to die ‘again’ between VIII and BtE?

    No.

  18. Bit late on this but just now thought… When Rimmer is buried alive why didn’t he just switch to soft light projection mode to escape?

  19. Bit late on this but just now thought… When Rimmer is buried alive why didn’t he just switch to soft light projection mode to escape?

    There’s an entirely sensible and reasonable reason why, which is also entirely consistent with continuity. Unfortunately, no-one knows what it is.

    Although I remember there was discussion about how Rimmer was able to do this as his light bee would not have been able to go through the door, and some suggested that maybe there was a gap for his light bee to move through, I think. So maybe there was no way for his light bee to get out even if he had switched to soft light?

  20. He didn’t think of it.

  21. Why didn’t [thing that happened in previous episode] happen in [later episodes] is something that can be said about roughly 80% of Red Dwarf epispdes, give or take

  22. I imagine it’s kinda hard to think logically like that when you’re in the middle of a panic attack from being buried alive and also being on fire.

    (That said, doesn’t he still experience pain? Does that mean he -felt- the flames burning him? That’s pretty horrific if so.)

  23. I’m fairly certain it’s established that hard-light holograms can experience pain, in Legion and in Rimmerworld. And maybe Stoke too.

  24. I hope if Rimmer is still a hologram in Skipper during what looks like series 1-Esk looking scenes that he isn’t a hard light hologram… But I wouldn’t be shocked if he was unfortunately.

  25. Thanks for the Skipper review, Dax. I think that means that you can move on to reviewing XIII, the tour and the fifth novel now.

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