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“spoiled by the usual four-lettered garbage that seems to spout from the usual suspects mouth” - Liam, Official Webboard

Seb Patrick / 30.03.09 / 10:46 am

Postmodern Intertextuality

I’d have just called it “metatextuality”, but whatever. Thanks to Dax101 in the forum for this, but there’s an article on the Times website this morning (can anyone confirm if it’s in the paper?) that seems to provide the first definite confirmation of elements we’ve been guessing at ever since we first saw Carbug. Spoilers in the link and after the jump, obviously.

“It is an interesting time for the team to reunite. Particularly for Charles, who currently plays the cab-firm boss Lloyd in Coronation Street. In a nice bit of postmodern intertextuality the cast briefly find themselves in Coronation Street, where, keep up now, Lister meets his parallel-universe alter ego, an actor called Craig Charles who stars in a soap”

Phew. So, there we go. No official quotations from anyone involved in the show (save for Craig describing it as “a real mind melter”), so this could be guesswork/speculation/made up, but it appears that we’re looking at a parallel universe (“dimension-jumping leviathan”, anyone?) in which Red Dwarf is a TV show. We’re through the looking-glass here, people.

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Jonathan Capps / Mon, 2009-03-30 11:28 / #

Interesting! John and I were discussing this yesterday, and it’d certainly make sense for the show to take the next logical step with the ‘infinite amount of alternate universes’ idea, because it’s a concept that can validate some really weird shit.


red-dwarf-movie-rip / Mon, 2009-03-30 11:45 / #

Is it possible to have just one bullet with the name Naylor on it : )


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performingmonkey / Mon, 2009-03-30 11:51 / #

So it’s still very much like the League film. It was quite a cool moment, helped by some flawless split-screen/greenscreen/doubles, when Herr Lipp met Steve Pemberton (who plays him). I doubt the crew will kidnap Craig though, unless it’s gonna be REALLY similar.

Personally I would have preferred it if it was the character Lloyd they met instead of Craig. It would have made it that much stranger. What gets me is in the footage of Carbug flying past the Corrie bus stop it looks like they’re really waiting for a bus as opposed to being extras. Fuck only knows.


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Seb Patrick / Mon, 2009-03-30 12:07 / #

What gets me is in the footage of Carbug flying past the Corrie bus stop it looks like they’re really waiting for a bus as opposed to being extras. Fuck only knows.

Good point, that’s also made me realise that if they were only visiting the Corrie set, they wouldn’t walk through the outer doors of the Rovers straight into the interior…


curtis / Mon, 2009-03-30 12:30 / #

Maybe in this parallel universe, the main difference to ours is the layout of the Coro set. There’d have to be some bland dimensions given the logic of it all


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Ian Symes / Mon, 2009-03-30 13:03 / #

Is it possible to have just one bullet with the name Naylor on it : )

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?


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Phil / Mon, 2009-03-30 13:06 / #

Ian you are a Fuckin CUNT!! that should have been aborted.CUNT


Nick / Mon, 2009-03-30 13:09 / #

Wasn`t it just a joke as the smile indicated?


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Ian Symes / Mon, 2009-03-30 13:52 / #

Putting a smile at the end of a twatty statement does not make it less of a twatty statement. Obviously, I know he doesn’t literally want to kill Doug Naylor, but I’m interested in why the fuck someone is anti-Doug at this particular point in time. I say “interested”…


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si / Mon, 2009-03-30 15:12 / #

Maybe it was meant for ‘Grant Naylor’, the creator of Red Dwarf.


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performingmonkey / Mon, 2009-03-30 17:57 / #

Some people are seemingly very unhappy with the Corrie involvement. Also unhappy about the style of BtE (i.e. not sitcom-like). However, IMO keeping your mouth shut, as some of those opposers are doing, is definitely preferrable to even jokingly talking about a bullet with Doug’s name on it. Doug IS Dwarf.


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hummingbird / Mon, 2009-03-30 18:08 / #

Troll. Ignore it.


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Teatime / Mon, 2009-03-30 18:39 / #

It’s been ten years since series VIII and they might never shoot another scene of Red Dwarf; for better or worse I can see why Doug Naylor wants to write something with more gravitas to it than the average episode.


SingingPotato1979 / Mon, 2009-03-30 19:41 / #

>Is it possible to have just one bullet with the name Naylor on it : )

Is it possible to have just one bullet with YOUR name on it? :o)


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Jonsmad / Tue, 2009-03-31 00:24 / #

Good idea singingpotato1979, but do we have to waste time carving the name?
You could just use the bullet instead at it’s intended target, and then we can all applaude you.