I forgot how utterly terrible the series X Kryten mask was.

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  • #223581

    Toxteth O-Grady

    I know this was talked about a lot at the time, but my god. Just watched a clip on YouTube and was amazed how botched the mask looked. It was A LOT worse than I remembered.
    The nose, the mouth, the dozens of bags under the eyes; it reminds me of Scary Spice from Bo Selecta.
    The rest of the costume isn’t much better. It shows way too much neck. And those giant hoops on the shoulders? Eugh.
    Anyway, the all the other Dave era masks look decent enough so I’ll stop complaining.

    #223582

    si

    The bags under the eyes were baffling.

    #223584

    Manbird

    The nose was a bit loose, but to me that’s…

    No. No, it isn’t.

    #223586

    KyoSo

    My least favorite Kryten mask is still probably VIII. I have no idea why, but it just looks “cheap” to me.

    Best mask is a toss-up between V, VI and XI/XII.

    #223587

    GlenTokyo

    Ooooh mi grapes Mr Lister sir

    *Sniff* Crabpaste sir

    #223588

    Hamish

    Best Kryten suit in general is always going to be VI.

    #223589

    MANI506

    I’m just about to watch X in HD for the first time. I will be staring at Kryten.

    #223590

    Pete Part Three

    It’s fucking awful. Unfortunately, a lot of websites still insist on using that X publicity shot with Kryten’s ugly beak looking at camera.

    Kill it with fire.

    #223591

    Ben Paddon

    The problem with the X mask is it looks uncannily like really, really bad fanart. Which is baffling, especially considering how ruddy good the mask in BTE was.

    #223595

    Toxteth O-Grady

    Yeah the BTE mask was remarkably good for what was a cheap production, especially compared to what came in the series after.

    For me, the best mask is V’s. It looks the most realistically artificial (i.e.the most like a believable mechanoid, the least like a man wearing a rubber mask).
    Best suit is probably VI’s.

    #223596

    International Debris

    V is my favourite too. It got the angles just right, and allowed Robert’s expressions to come through without mushing up the whole thing (as Toxteth O-Grady says – the least like a man wearing a rubber mask).

    #223597

    si

    My least favorite Kryten mask is still probably VIII.

    I’ve always thought Kryten’s mask was one of the best things about VIII, myself. Nicely defined angles.
    V is obviously the most angular, not a fan of VII. The nose on X’s is odd, but the XI/XII mask is a strange one – although it’s a bit less angular, it actually looks very good most episodes, if you excuse the occasional lump (Timewave) or Lister’s mask in Siliconia.

    #223630

    Darrell

    Mechocracy and M-Corp are the best the new Kryten mask has ever looked. Trial and error?

    #223633

    Jawscvmcdia

    What about Kryten from… Kryten?

    #223634

    NoFro

    I thought it was just me that thought Kryten looked better these last two eps.

    #223637

    si

    Crap collection of ‘Kryten through the years’ pics.
    https://bromley001.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/kryten-through-the-years/

    #223638

    Pete Part Three

    Argh. That’s that horrible X photo I was talking about.

    #224281

    Plastic Percy

    The one mask I’m really not keen on is the III mask. Way too fleshy looking. I’m quite fond of the VII/VIII mask because of the definition given to the edges of the mask in a slightly lighter colour.

    #224283

    International Debris

    The worst thing about the III mask is how shiny it is.

    #224297

    Ben Saunders

    Yeah, Kryten always looks really sweaty in III. V and VI probably had the best masks, but VII, VIII and BtE are all good, too. Did they just forget how to make Kryten masks after BtE?

    #224298

    Jawscvmcdia

    Ben, there was recently an interview with Doug about the Kryten masks:

    “We do it in a different way now. They used to have to make a mould and put a load of gunge all over his face. And he’d have straws up his nose and have to keep his mouth closed. And he did get to the point, I think it was the last series, where he said he just had a fit. It was a bit like someone who suddenly becomes afraid of flying. You’ve been able to do this up to a certain point and then suddenly it becomes terrifying. And he said, is there any other way to do this? His face obviously changes from season to season. Because you might put on a little weight and so you have to do it again. So, this time we scanned it and of course he just sat there and the machine scanned his features and then the mask was made from that. It was a much much more comfortable way of making it for him. And it’s not made of rubber latex, it’s made of a kind of silicon now, which again is much cooler, and he says it’s far and away the best mask he’s ever had. Much easier to get on and off. He’s actually very happy.”

    So it’s most likely that due to the change in production method, that it makes the mask look slightly different.

    https://screenmayhem.com/doug-naylor-interview-part-1-we-chat-with-the-red-dwarf-co-creator-about-making-a-new-series-and-returning-the-show-to-its-peak/

    #224299

    Hamish

    So in short you are all heartless bastards.

    #224300

    Ben Saunders

    Bah, Bobby’s a moany old git who should just suck it up and go through hell 30 times a series so that has mask looks a bit better. Clearly.

    #224301

    KyoSo

    Yeah, Kryten always looks really sweaty in III.

    No shit, you stay cool in that makeup.

    #224317

    McAleeCh

    Crap collection of ‘Kryten through the years’ pics.
    https://bromley001.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/kryten-through-the-years/

    Wow, seeing them all lined up in order shows just how much of an anomaly the Series X design is – if you cut it out from the line-up, I reckon you’d have no trouble convincing people the Series XI/XII design is the next step on from Back to Earth – it’s like they ignored all the changes Series X introduced (more neck, odd nose, shoulder hoops). Not that I’m complaining – although I wasn’t that fussed with the Series X design at the time, looking back I much prefer both the current version and Back to Earth’s…!

    …Also, I don’t know where you got that photo of the Red Dwarf USA Kryten, but bloody hell, his costume looks so cheap and lightweight! No texture to it at all, and it looks so flimsy unlike the UK costumes of the time. That would definitely have needed sorting out had it gone to a full series.

    #224318

    McAleeCh

    …Also, for anyone who hasn’t figured it out, here’s a direct link to the full-size version of the above image to allow easier comparison of the outfits:

    https://bromley001.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/through-the-years2.jpg

    #224319

    Darrell

    Anyone spot the really annoying hairclip/band visible under the top of Kryten’s head throughout Skipper?

    (Not a spoiler unless you’re on tenterhooks to find out about what’s next for Robert Llewellyn’s scalp)

    #224320

    Pete Part Three

    It looks pony, Bobby.

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