March 10, 2017 at 8:01 am #219427
For a ship that supposedly a mining vessel, not one member of the crew that we are introduced to or is mentioned but not seen is a miner.
Navigation Officer Kochanski
Todhunter is just “officer”
Flight co-ordinator George McIntyre
Lister and Rimmer are technicians
There’s Kochanski’s ex Tm who is a chef
Petersen is also in catering
I don’t think we ever find out what Selby and Chen’s jobs are.
None of Rimmer’s potential replacements in Holoship are miners
None of the “officers” at the dinner Holister holds in series 8 are miners
Brannigan and McClaren are psyiatrists or counsellors
There’s more obviously but I can’t think of them all off of the top of my head at the moment
For a mining ship of only 169/1169 crew … you’d expect at least one of the crew seen or mentioned to have something to do with actual mining.March 10, 2017 at 10:29 am #219428
I assumed it was entirely automated.March 10, 2017 at 1:43 pm #219431
I’d think all the mining technicians work on a different part of the ship.March 10, 2017 at 5:00 pm #219433
Minors not miners!
Sorry, someone had to reference it.March 10, 2017 at 5:27 pm #219434
Chen worked in the kitchen as well, as per Series VIII.
I just assume that the miners were housed in a different section away from the operation of the ship, much like the engineers and mechanics who ran older cruise ships were kept away from the passengers. Since they weren’t actually mining anything any time we saw Red Dwarf, we wouldn’t have seen them since we were only following the stories of enlisted personnel.March 10, 2017 at 5:48 pm #219436
If the mining was automatic, I’d expect most of the ship to be automated and need very little, if any crew.
I can kinda buy the fact they’re all lower desk crew as it were, but Lister seems like the sort of guy that would hang out with them. Much more likely to get on with that bunch then the officers he works with.March 10, 2017 at 6:10 pm #219437
But he signed up with the Space Corps, which are contracted to provide the crew which run the ship, not another company/organization which is contracted to provide the miners. The JMC just own the ship.March 10, 2017 at 6:32 pm #219438
Out golfingMarch 10, 2017 at 6:34 pm #219439
They don’t need many miners because they all use voice operated mining equipment.March 10, 2017 at 8:49 pm #219442
I blame Thatcher.March 10, 2017 at 10:01 pm #219443
Given the asteroid embedded in the ship, they must have been mining. There is obviously a lot of ship space and crew seemingly not dedicated to mining, which does seem a touch odd – the various science rooms and so on – but obviously it’s all there just to add a sci-fi touch. I think the only real mining we ever encounter is in Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers.March 11, 2017 at 6:05 pm #219452
Ha yeah thats the other thing, what it Red Dwarf doing with a prototype matter paddle in the science room on Z deck?
I can kinda believe that we only focus on the crew hired to get the ship around the solar system, just feels a little odd that not one miner is ever referenced in the whole show, when the ships function is to mine.March 11, 2017 at 6:07 pm #219453
You can also perform space experiments in space. There is no reason why you wouldn’t put a small lab on board each ship.March 12, 2017 at 5:34 pm #219461
They make the prisoners on floor thirteen go out and do all the dangerous mining, after checking its a safe mine to be punished breaking rocks in.March 12, 2017 at 5:36 pm #219462
They mine with lasers, thats established in series 9.March 12, 2017 at 11:18 pm #219467
Perhaps they were amongst the extra thousand that appear out of nowhere in Justice? If the inmates in the Tank make up 200 of that number, and maybe say 100 wardens to guard them, you could potentially have 700 miners waiting to be dropped off on Triton.March 16, 2017 at 7:41 pm #219493
On a related note, if you’d actually like to watch some mining on Jupiter’s moons, check out the 1981 movie Outland.
Here’s a trailer – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8WBk6nrYC0
I always think of it as being contained within the RD universe – the aesthetic is very similar, even the spacesuits are the same, presumably pilfered by the BBC costumer dept after production ended.
Also, it’s worth a watch just for the hysterically creepy performance of Sean Connery’s onscreen ‘son’.March 16, 2017 at 8:44 pm #219494
the idea that the mining is totally automated but they still need a whole team of people to fix the vending machines! that’s really funny and interesting. remember when there were automated carwashes? and now it’s just guys with rags…
the idea the prisoners do the mining: but the prison is secret…March 16, 2017 at 8:52 pm #219495
outland looks very red dwarfish (red dwarf is outlandish).March 16, 2017 at 9:46 pm #219496
Careful, you’ll get Rob and Doug hounded for Outland Revenue.March 16, 2017 at 11:36 pm #219497
keep a cloche on itMarch 20, 2017 at 10:05 pm #219522
The moons probably already have specific mining colonies already set up. Mining ships like Red Dwarf would delivers new equipment and supplies, and transport the mined ore to its intended destination. If you just contracted miners who were already on the moon itself to continue working, every couple years they could have a Red Dwarf-sized mining ship show up and collect all the ore.
It’s probably a lot cheaper to just make one big trip with fifty thousand fucktons of ore (and drop off the latest Starbugs and Blue Midgets and White Giants) than to constantly send smaller ships to pick up 0.5 fucktons at a time.March 20, 2017 at 11:06 pm #219524
Something about a large corporate mining ship flying from rock to rock collecting the spoils of colonist miners and just buggering off again makes me a little uncomfortable.March 21, 2017 at 12:18 am #219529
to pick up 0.5 fucktons at a time.
Fuckton is my new favourite unit of weight.March 21, 2017 at 6:03 pm #219532
It’s the Metric equivalent of Imperial shitload.April 30, 2017 at 6:51 am #219682
it’s not automation because the automation is pathetic and behind our own times. it’s not the prisoners because they have to play rock albums and get into time paradoxes. or some other section of the ship because lister would know them as someone said. the colonial idea is the best explanation – but doesn’t that just make it a cargo ship? presumably they would have needed to do some mining to get the nanobots some raw materials to rerebuild the ship as well.April 30, 2017 at 12:20 pm #219685
jupiter macguffin corporationMay 1, 2017 at 6:27 am #219689
“Or macguffins! We don’t like macguffins round here.”May 2, 2017 at 4:53 pm #219693
It’s a mining ship so as long as its primarily transporting mining equipment and ore. So I guess as of Series X it’s a vending machine ship.May 2, 2017 at 5:21 pm #219695
I think it’s actually mostly transporting air, therefore it’s an airship.May 2, 2017 at 5:40 pm #219698
Red Zeppelin.May 2, 2017 at 5:40 pm #219699
–KyoSo, 2 May 2017May 2, 2017 at 6:03 pm #219700
maybe the miners are in a mineMay 2, 2017 at 9:27 pm #219704
Your place or mine?May 2, 2017 at 11:57 pm #219705
Not here, it’s too sandy.May 3, 2017 at 7:14 am #219706
It’s a mining ship so as long as its primarily transporting mining equipment and ore.
And/or what?May 3, 2017 at 5:49 pm #219707
Third base!May 4, 2017 at 1:23 am #219708
Where are all the miners
“They’re all dead. Everybody’s dead, Dave.”
Have any of you people *seen* this show?May 4, 2017 at 7:13 am #219709
what show?May 4, 2017 at 10:03 am #219710
I started watching the first episode, but then had to pack to move abroad about halfway through. Didn’t get back into the country until some way through series 8. Wasn’t very funny so I stopped watching after a few episodes.
Who’s dead?May 4, 2017 at 1:58 pm #219711
I don’t know who’s dead on this show, but I do know that I’m not, and that you’re not, if you’re reading this.
Or are you?May 4, 2017 at 7:51 pm #219712
fictional miners also went on strike in the 80sMay 4, 2017 at 8:28 pm #219713
paul muller already did that one sorryMay 4, 2017 at 8:29 pm #219714
they could only afford to get actors for major rolesMay 14, 2017 at 1:01 pm #219761
Where are all the Miners?
I dunno, is it somewhere near Uruquay?
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