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  • #3398

    Jawscvmcdia

    If Holly were to come back in the next series, which Holly would you choose? It can be any version of Holly, Queeg even.

    #97318

    Ian Symes

    G&T Admin

    Hattie, by about a million miles.

    #97319

    Danny Stephenson

    G&T Admin

    Hattie, I don’t think Norman will be coming back.

    #97320

    si

    Hattie, cheers.

    #97321

    SoundableObject

    Hattie.

    #97322

    Another Phil

    Hattie, and if she wasn’t available I’d recast.

    #97324

    p2p_productions

    Yeah, Hattie’s the most logical choice now. I’d love to see her back, too. If Norm were to return, I wouldn’t be against it. Especially if they shared the role.

    Return of Queeg? Maybe. What about Jane Leeves, though..?

    #97325

    Pongo

    Tony Robinson?

    #97323

    Pongo

    Bill Bailey. Maybe Dylan Moran?
    Failing that, don’t really think it makes a huge difference whether it’s Norman or Hattie – outstanding personal issues with other castmembers excepted.

    #97326

    si

    I loved Norm’s Holly in Series I & II. Nice to see him back in VII. Not the same old Holly though in VIII. Pointless/wrong in Remastered.

    Now, however, I’d hate to think of Norm demeaning himself to work on Red Dwarf.

    #97327

    Alex

    Hattie. Though i have to say, the more I think about the jokey idea of Bill Bailey the more I find myself thinking ‘actually, that might just work’.

    #97328

    Steve Harris

    Hattie……..Without question.

    Or Re-cast if not.

    #97329

    Pongo

    >I loved Norm?s Holly in Series I & II. Nice to see him back in VII. Not the same >old Holly though in VIII. Pointless/wrong in Remastered.

    To be fair, most of the cast were not their same old selves in VIII..

    #97330

    p2p_productions

    SerieX: Episode 1: Holly has dried out, but when the crew attempt to reboot, an unexpected glitch forces his physical appearance to seemingly change at random.

    That way, we could get a hundred new Holly’s in one ep.

    …Yeah, Bill Bailey would be great! “Oh, uh, space weevils, blimey, ah…” etc.

    #97331

    Jawscvmcdia

    So the majority vote is Hattie, if it were me I’d choose Norman to come back because he is a great worker, very professional, does what he’s told and never has a cross word to say about anyone.

    #97332

    si

    …And he’s a cracking footballer.

    #97333

    Danny Stephenson

    G&T Admin

    Bill Bailey as Holly.

    Yeah that would be MY excuse to getting him to a future DJ.

    #97334

    si

    Well, yeah, that works for me, too.

    Although, should Holly ever get back to his full IQ, Stephen Fry is a no-brainer.

    #97335

    p2p_productions

    >Bill Bailey as Holly. Yeah that would be MY excuse to getting him to a future DJ.

    #97336

    NitroChrisUK

    god i hope bill bailey will be holly

    #97338

    clem

    Hattie. Or Gordon Salkilld if she wasn’t available/interested, and he wasn’t dead.

    #97339

    Zombie Jim Undead

    Hattie, definitely.

    Or Bill Bailey. Or jeremy Hardy.

    #97340

    hummingbird

    Hattie first of course.

    I’d love Bill Bailey, but I think he’s doing far too well on his own at the moment to want to play a supporting role, even if it is RD.
    Saying that, if he’s s fan of the show he might do it.

    #97345

    SkyAndSun

    Could ask him on twitter…

    #97346

    Seb Patrick

    So the majority vote is Hattie, if it were me I?d choose Norman to come back because he is a great worker, very professional, does what he?s told and never has a cross word to say about anyone.

    Hahaha. Okay, I see what you’re doing.

    #97347

    NitroChrisUK

    >if it were me I?d choose Norman to come back because he is a great worker, very professional, does what he?s told and never has a cross word to say about anyone.

    is that in the same mirror universe where rap music is really good ?

    #97350

    SoundableObject

    >>if it were me I?d choose Norman to come back because he is a great worker, very professional, does what he?s told and never has a cross word to say about anyone.

    >is that in the same mirror universe where rap music is really good ?

    Jennifer Sisko is alive too. (I am puching through season 4 of DS9 at an incredible rate, hence the refrence)

    #97352

    Kris Carter

    Hattie please. And if not her, Bill Bailey.

    #97359

    mark100000

    Noel Edmonds.

    #97361

    Jo TORDFC

    Hattie.

    #97362

    Mnoooah

    Hattie please. And if not her, Bill Bailey.

    This.

    #97363

    mark100000

    How about a guest appearance from Mr T. as queeg?

    #97364

    Seb Patrick

    I keep seeing Bill Bailey’s name crop up in Holly discussions – and yet I’ve never seen anyone give a reason for why they think he’d be good. He’s great, no doubt about it, but is he really Holly? Can anyone explain why he’s the name that jumps to everyone’s mind?

    #97365

    Richey

    > I keep seeing Bill Bailey?s name crop up in Holly discussions – and yet I?ve never seen anyone give a reason for why they think he?d be good. He?s great, no doubt about it, but is he really Holly? Can anyone explain why he?s the name that jumps to everyone?s mind?

    Norman portrayed Holly as just slow (and then senile).
    Hattie portrayed Holly as ditzy (and then senile).
    Bill would be good at portraying Holly as bumbling (and senile).

    My vote goes for Hattie, but I can certainly see how Bill would be good as a re-cast.

    #97369

    Mnoooah

    Bill is a virtuoso of DAFT. I can’t find the clip, but in the middle of one of his gigs, he appears to forget where he is and makes hand puppets that fight with each other:

    ‘woof.’ ‘mew’ ‘woof’ ‘mew’ ‘ARRRRRRRRGHHHH!!!’ ‘whimper’.

    And the crowd goes wild. Who the hell else could pull that off?! If you need someone to portray 3 million years worth of mental disorganization, Bill is your guy.

    #97373

    Carlito

    If Norman could recapture his series 1/2 form, I wouldn’t want a recast, even if it was the lovely Hattie. Norman IS Holly, when he is at his best. Series VIII, and Holly didn’t have half the charm of the early years. The rat arsed line, “become a dog”… the only memorable line from the Norm comeback was the Brylcreem gag (which I loved)… you could blame it on the writing, but some of the material was great and delivered badly by Lovett… I didn’t miss him really in BtE but I would still love to see him contribute to future Dwarf, as long as he is on best form.

    #97375

    ChrisM

    I quite liked the line “It’s times like this I’m glad I’m just a head.” too.

    That was the scene on the Canary shuttle when Kryten talks about showering with the girls and the lads all cross their legs.

    #97382

    TheLeen

    Hattie or recast. I’d love to see Bill Bailey, but Dylan Moran sounds good as well.

    Actually, how about if Holly was slightly broken and would display various faces and personalities? Including earlier episodes’ ones? Including Hilly, Queeg, and a number of new faces? With Hattie’s Holly giving it all a frame? That’d be a dream come true. For me. But I’m greedy.

    #97390

    Steve Harris

    I guess the idea of the crew perhaps changing the face like wallpaper could run…

    maybe, Hattie could be the default setting..

    #97398

    Dave

    Hattie or nothing.

    #97399

    Turk Thrust

    Purely in terms of performance I would say Norman as I think he is definitely the funnier of the 2. As that won`t happen though, I would let the character die.

    #97407

    si

    >I quite liked the line ?It?s times like this I?m glad I?m just a head.? too

    I hated that, personally.

    #97409

    Nick R

    Bill Bailey’s Holly would probably have more luck decimalising music than Norman’s did.

    #97422

    Dessie

    Norman seemed nervous in series 8. Hattie deserves the role, she seems like a lovely person and did a really good job with the limited material she had.

    #97447

    Jawscvmcdia

    Remember you are under polygraphic surveillance.

    #97463

    Nakrophile

    Jeremy Clarkson.

    #97464

    Phil

    Gary Glitter

    #97465

    Nakrophile

    Don’t be stupid.

    #97467

    Mister E

    Hattie, who I actually like better than Norm as Holly.I agree with the majority in that Bill Bailey is a great alternative.

    #97509

    Phil

    Elmo

    #97511

    Ben Paddon
    #97513

    ChrisM

    That… was… strange. Cute, but strange. I’d expect that sort of sound from a cat than a dog. Remember that shaggy looking dog who could say “Sausages?” Heh.

    Holly at his most senile…

    #97562

    peas_and_corn

    Does Norm have a brother?

    #97566

    hummingbird

    It would be interesting, too, to have a complete departure from the slow/senile/deadpan persona and cast for a different kind of Holly.

    #97489

    Phil

    >Does Norm have a brother?

    Brian Doyle Lovett

    #97490

    p2p_productions

    >Brian Doyle Lovett

    “Your honour, your Honour. Pick up that blood.”

    #97583

    Ben Paddon

    Chris O’Dowd would make a good Holly, I reckon.

    #97599

    Plastic Percy

    Patrick Stewart? He can out-bald Norman Lovett any day.

    Though I’d like Hattie back. She didn’t do too badly in ‘Ace Rimmer: A Life in Lame’

    #97601

    Ben Paddon

    She was my favourite of the two Hollies in Beat The Geek.

    #97604

    Anonymous

    If Norm could recover his early form then him (despite the fact he doesn’t deserve it). He’s still my favourite Holly.

    If not then Hattie – she never really got the lines her loyalty to the show deserved but I still enjoy her rendering of Holly.

    It not those two then don’t bring back the character. Bill Bailey is a very funny guy but I wouldn’t want him on RD.

    Why?

    Because if I see Hattie on RD I think, “Oh look, it’s Holly.”

    If I see Norm on RD I think, “Oh look, it’s Holly.”

    If I were to see Bill Bailey on RD I’d think, “Oh look, it’s Bill Bailey’s head.”

    But I’m clearly in the minority.

    #97606

    Turk Thrust

    > Though I?d like Hattie back. She didn?t do too badly in ?Ace Rimmer: A Life in Lame?

    Sometimes on this site people sound so sincere…when they must surely be being sarcastic.

    #97675

    Jawscvmcdia

    No I agree with you

    #97678

    thomasaevans

    Hattie. Or Doug Naylor.

    #97679

    NoFro

    Not Bill Bailey. Funny guy but find I would just think of him as Bill Bailey, not Holly.

    I’m going for Hattie.

    #97685

    Nakrophile

    Yeah, Hattie.

    #97687

    Phil

    Eminem

    #97696

    Zombie Jim Undead

    #97698

    si

    #97699

    Zombie Jim Undead

    I just did a bit of sick in my mouth.

    #97702

    Ian Symes

    G&T Admin

    Having Boris Johnson in Red Dwarf would be a sacrifice I’d be willing to make if it meant he wasn’t Mayor of London any more.

    #97706

    Zombie Jim Undead

    Looks like Dave are asking the same question!

    http://dave.uktv.co.uk/library/red-dwarf/where-smeg-was-holly/

    #97481

    Jawscvmcdia

    Hattie please

    #97709

    Nakrophile

    The comments in that article, while speculation one would assume, do seem to hint towards another series. And Robert’s Radio 5 comments hint further that, we could be on a course set to successville.

    #97712

    Kris Carter

    The further thought occurs, we haven’t budged a smegging inch.

    #97723

    Phil

    Michael Stipe

    #97725

    Danny Stephenson

    G&T Admin

    Patrick Moore

    #97727

    TheLeen

    Michael Moore

    #97729

    Jawscvmcdia

    Gordon Brown

    #97732

    hummingbird

    June Brown

    #97735

    ChrisM

    A puerile nob gag just popped into my head.

    I’ll keep it to myself.

    I’m not sure French filmstar lookalikes would work for Holly anyway.

    #97743

    mark100000

    Jimmy Carr

    #97745

    Tonguetied

    Norman or failing that, Ross Kemp.

    #97746

    Phil

    Zombie Jim Undead’s avatar

    #97747

    Tonguetied

    Tony Hawkes.

    #97759

    Pete Part Three

    Your mum.

    #97762

    Zombie Jim Undead

    > Zombie Jim Undead?s avatar

    It’s what Norm actually looks like these days. The hatred and bile are causing him to flake.

    #97763

    Danny Stephenson

    G&T Admin

    Like the dude on Knightmare.

    #97769

    si

    Or Mumm-Ra.

    #97772

    Jawscvmcdia

    Doesn’t Norm have the IQ of 6,000 PE teachers?

    #97850

    peas_and_corn

    Gordon Bennett

    #97898

    si

    Gordon Brown.

    #97901

    Zombie Jim Undead

    Charlie Brown.

    #97902

    Stabbim the Skutter

    If Hattie were to return, they should shoot the front and the back of her head at the same time, then layer the front of her head onto the back – that way you’d see her hair hanging down behind her head, and she’d actually look like a floating head – with two strands on either side it looks a little bit dodgy.

    #97904

    si

    Norm’s only got two strands on top of his head, that doesn’t look much better.

    #97911

    Jawscvmcdia

    No it’s a bloody paintbrush

    #98224

    Stabbim the Skutter

    Call me insane, but I’ve been watching a lot of Scrubs recently and I think Sarah Chalke would make a great Holly. If Red Dwarf ever got remade for USA again (Heaven forbid) she’d make a great stand-in for Hattie any day.

    #98225

    Jo TORDFC

    John Hoare

    #98239

    peas_and_corn

    >Call me insane

    You’re insane.

    I don’t think she would work as a Holly, TBH.

    #98240

    Carlito

    Seconded. Not to say she isn’t a talented comedy performer (because she is… hmmm, or should I say “was” considering her character has become a lot more annoying than funny over the last 2/3 years?) but she’s not really right for Holly.

    #98241

    Ben Paddon

    But her hair is the right length for a computer…

    #98397

    Stabbim the Skutter

    > John Hoare

    “Well, thanks to the virus, half of the ship has decayed. But I LIKE the shit bits!”

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