John’s “News”round – 8/6/05 News Posted by John Hoare on 8th June 2005, 18:34 I really don’t know why I’m bothering with this one now, as you’ll have read it all already (and discussed it over on OD) – but just consider it part of my anal fan mentality. Blah blah blah, lots of snippets about the VII/VIII DVDs on TOS blah blah blah. A few things occur, though. After I’d stopped capering round the room shouting “90 MINUTE DOCUMENTARIES” and “AN HOUR OF VIII DELETED SCENES”, that is. In particular, (and yes, we’ve all known about this for a while) – I’m actually surprised the Xtended eps are to be included. Am I really the only person here who doesn’t care about them? I would have been happy to have just had the extra stuff in the deleted scenes. However, perhaps I simply don’t care because I’m not keen on the series – if I liked it more, I’d probably be very happy. (After all, it was me who wanted to see Holoship re-edited together including the deleted scenes.) Regardless – there’s loads of great stuff, so there’s nothing to whinge about. Not that that’ll stop the reviewers… Good news about the extra stuff to be included in the feature length BITR, though – what with those extra bits, and the planned repositioning of BITR3’s cell scene, it’s beginning to look like it’ll be slightly more than just the three eps stuck together with the padding removed. To be honest though, I suspect the main advantage will be the elimination of the anticlimatic feel of the ends of episodes one and especially two; with the broadcast version, the Skutter Dibbleys are given a weight that they really, REALLY didn’t deserve. (It’s not much worse than the end of Dimension Jump, mind you.) There’s also one thing I want to know about this picture. The VIII: Production Time Hole article reveals that this is from a deleted scene from Pete. The question is: why didn’t this (and some other deleted scenes, such as Archie flying up Hollister’s backside) show up in the VIII scriptbook, which had some deleted material in? (And here’s a further question: will Archie flying up Hollister’s arse pose a problem for the 12 certificate? I would have thought not, but from the reaction of some people I’ve talked to to the idea of the scene, and the supposed reaction of the studio audience, and with some of the silly decisions of the BBFC in the past, I wonder…) I have to say though, the part of the DVD I’m looking forward to most so far is: a) the discussion of VII’s effects, and b) The reams of model footage shot and not used for the series. The only thing better would be to see Peter Wragg go on for hours about different types of glue and the clever ways wires are hidden on model shots. And show his bum, of course. And finally: if I don’t find out what this extra “that will knock your week-old socks off” is, I shall shortly explode. Or, indeed, bust my quite considerable gut. Identity Within? A Rob Grant interview? Footage of Chloë Annett’s foaming twat? Put your guesses here. Opinion masquerading as a news article there. At least I don’t get into trouble about that, like I would have done on here. Unless someone wants to give me a lecture on journalistic impartiality, of course.
“Opinion masquerading as a news article there.” Any opinion/news article accompanied by a picture of that rather tasty lady from Newsround gets the thumbs up.
Hey guys. Long time reader, first time poster. As many of you know by now, there is promise from the official site of a special extra on the Series 8 DVD that will ‘suprise many and hopefully impress all’ and I have just heard rumour of what that special extra is. This comes from a source at the BBC who is my brother’s boss. My brother works for the lighting department at BBC Wales. He is a big Red Dwarf fan and was chatting with his boss about the fact it is taking forever for the film to come out. Well, his boss let slip that the new DVD for series 8 would be a 3 disc set (this was before the official announcement came out) and that a special extra would be included – the first EVER EVER EVER teaser trailer for the Red Dwarf Movie!! My brother was obviously sceptical as there has been no mention of shooting beginning. Well, his boss explained that an extra 2 days were added on to the recording session for the Series 7 and 8 commentaries. These extra 2 days involved the cast getting dressed up in full costume and shooting a teaser trailer against blue screen with partial props and set dressing for the actors. The background was then edited in over the following week (apparantly they’d been working on it for a month before the shoot). How did my brother’s boss know this? He was lighting manager on the shoot!!! Now all of this is unconfirmed. My brother told it to me, and his boss told it to him. His boss could be lying. But he went into great detail about shooting schedules and stuff. So maybe it’s true. We’ll have to wait and see. Take it with a pinch of salt….but expect the unexpected!!
Well golly gee. That would be a wonderful extra indeed! But, of course, if the movie never does happen, it’ll be nothing more than a painful reminder of how close we never were…like that damn promotional flyer that was leaked a few years ago. Still…it’s a cause for wet pants.
>first time poster. Hell of a way to start, David. Right on. …of course, if you’re wrong, you’ll never be welcome here again.
“> the first EVER EVER EVER teaser trailer for the Red Dwarf Movie!! *coughs* Bullshit!” Were you coughing the word “bullshit” or coughing first and then saying “bullshit”? So what is this mystery extra Mr Ellard? Is it as exciting as everyone here wants it to be?
When Andrew uses profanity it must be for a very good reason indeed. Oh well. Still can’t wait to find out what the mystery extra is, though.
>Were you coughing the word “bullshit” or coughing first and then saying “bullshit”? The former. *sighs* Oh the limitations of written language. How should the ‘bullshit cough’ be written, anyone know? >So what is this mystery extra Mr Ellard? Is it as exciting as everyone here wants it to be? I genuinely believe so. It’s no three-minute thing, either, it is ‘of significance’. I hope it lives up to the hype we’ve given it. Should it – it’s exactly what I would want to see on a Dwarf DVD. (Which, as any fule kno, has been my policy all along.) > that rather tasty lady from Newsround John, even if there’s no news to report, more pics of her would be appreciated as a general lightener to the dull days. Cheers.
> I’m actually surprised the Xtended eps are to be included. Am I really the only person here who doesn’t care about them? I like the Xtended versions. But, more importantly, they’re part of the history. Like the chunks of Red Dwarf Night we include – all the way down to the skutter idents – the DVDs have given us a chance to create an ‘archive’. VII’s story would, I think, be incomplete without the Xtendeds. (Particularly the especially-shot Tikka ending with a CGI Starbug that WORKS.)
Well, I wouldn’t have minded if all that stuff had just been in the deleted scenes. But like I said, if I was keener on VII, I’d be very glad indeed they were on there, so I’m just being contrary really. I certainly take your point about VII’s ‘story’. Oh, and I’m *really* glad the skutter idents were included, as they’re fab. But any kind of idents or presentation excites me. I spent this morning listening to all the jingles on the I’m Alan Partridge DVD. Forget having time to wash properly – I know my priorities. My personal guess for the DVD extra is one of the US pilots. But I don’t know…
Being a Big Tosser myself, I mean a big user of TOS it’s interesting to note some of the things that have been requested for the DVD’s… The USA shows have been a biggie, but have always been discounted for various reasons.. I myself would possibly be dissapointed if this was the biggie.. Whilst a Movie Trailer would be a wonderful inclussion, it does sound a tad unlikely… My guess would be something new altogether… Perhaps a Rob Grant interview or something of that magnitude..
A lengthy interview with Rob Grant would really float my boat and go some way to making up for his total absence on the previous DVDs.
Contrary to John’s opinion, I actually prefer the Xtended versions of VII. I don’t find the laugh-less silences awkward at all. I think they enhance the mood. Far more cinematic overall, and I think without the laughter track I’m less drawn towards feeling it *should* be funny and that somehow I’ve missed something. I can watch it as something more dramatic, which I think for VII is more appropriate. Studio audiences don’t always reflect the responses of people at home and with VII it’s particularly pertinent I think. Was it VIII that characters started getting cheers whenever they walked on? Or did I just imagine that happening? “How should the ‘bullshit cough’ be written, anyone know?” Try: “BAWWWWHHHITT!”
“…Studio audiences don’t always reflect the responses of people at home and with VII it’s particularly pertinent I think…” True, but Series VII was not filmed with the intention of being sans laugh-track (like, say, The Office) so there’s some horrible pauses where the cast assume the laughs will be edited in later. Particularly noticeable in the extended ‘Tikka to Ride’.
>Footage of Chlo? Annett’s foaming twat? Honestly, the continuing quest for Chlo? Annett’s foaming twat.
“True, but Series VII was not filmed with the intention of being sans laugh-track (like, say, The Office) so there’s some horrible pauses where the cast assume the laughs will be edited in later. Particularly noticeable in the extended ‘Tikka to Ride’.” Okay, I take your point but I don’t think the pauses are that horrible. I think they’re better without than with. And all I’m doing is saying it’s worth having both the original and extended versions of the episodes on the DVD rather than simply including the deleted scenes separately.
