Doctor Dwarf : The Next Generation News Posted by Seb Patrick on 3rd April 2007, 13:08 Filched from Outpost Gallifrey, opening episode Smith & Jones appeared to include a clue to the “Big Bad” at the end of this series of Doctor Who, and it’s one that may just be a little familiar… “Give me an L… give me an I… give me a Hospital Litter Bin?” Clearly, the Quagaars are going to be the most fearsome foe the Doctor has yet faced…
To be honest, I thought the sucking out blood with a straw thing was much more familiar? Well, indeed. In fact, this one’s quite a bit more rubbish and obscure. It was mainly that someone on OG actually made the Dwarf reference while discussing it, really…
It was Doctor Darkplace this time round. The FX shots of the hospital on the moon bared a strong resemblence to the hospital shots in Darkplace.
This week it was about a lost Shakespeare Play. But they failed to mention. “Rachel the Third” and “Taming of the Shrimp.”
The running joke about the Doctor quoting Shakespeare and Shakey saying “Ooooh, that’s good!!!!111” reminded me of the fucking awful “It did. Heh.” in Tikka. It was done rather better though (I liked the commission line), although a couple of them really grated with me.
My dad really enjoyed those parts of the show, laughing at every instance. But I was thinking, it’s a bit obvious to do jokes about influencing shakespeare and only the most famous quotes at that, it’s been done before in so many time travle shows im sure, including mentions in previous dr who’s I think. But it did help the shakespeare and Dr are both Geniuses vibe of the show which I enjoyed. The reference to back to the future annoyed me straight away though, I was quite happy for shakespeare plays or even Harry Potter to be mentioned but suddenly referencing back to the future brought me right out of beliving the universe, It was supposed to be funny short hand but just made me imagine the dr going onto to say “you know like in Red Dwarf Timeslides, or like in some Tom Baker era dr who” I thought it was lazy. Still old dr who went as bad as having a TV show called Dr who within it once, so it’s not the lowest moment in the show, messing around in areas it shouldnt. Where as “Dont give me that Star Trek crap, it’s too early in the morning” is of course excellent and beyond criticism. Nice double standard there I think.
> you know like in Red Dwarf Timeslides Are you saying you wouldn’t love it if the Doctor started to talk about Dwarf?
I’d prefer a BTTF reference to a Potter one anyday. The only issue I had with the BTTF one is it didn’t really work. Since it’s Marty’s trip to 1955 which triggers the change in events which causes him and his family to fade from existence. The timeline in this episode of Who seemed to be that it was the always the case that Love’s Labours Won was performed then lost and that The Doctor and Martha where a part of this timeline. More simply that is was history that at a certain point they would turn up and stop the end of the world rather than triggering an alternative timeline by arriving in the past and then have to put things right, which is the case with BTTF. Aside from this, I bet The Doctor is a Marillion fan.
I was just thinking today, was the line “I didn’t want to say magic door” from The Girl in the Fireplace ever used as Doctor Dwarf?
>”I?d prefer a BTTF reference to a Potter one anyday. The only issue I had with the BTTF one is it didn?t really work. Since it?s Marty?s trip to 1955 which triggers the change in events which causes him and his family to fade from existence. >The timeline in this episode of Who seemed to be that it was the always the case that Love?s Labours Won was performed then lost and that The Doctor and Martha where a part of this timeline. More simply that is was history that at a certain point they would turn up and stop the end of the world rather than triggering an alternative timeline by arriving in the past and then have to put things right, which is the case with BTTF.” What struck me about this particular explanation about timelines, is that it basically paraphrases an explanation about cause and effect used by Tom Baker’s Doctor in the classic story ‘Pyramids of Mars.’ In it, he is trying to explain why the villain Sutekh is able to destroy the world in the early 20th Century, even though Sarah Jane exists. To demonstrate this, the Doctor shows Sarah a version of her own time if Sutekh had destroyed the world – a barren wasteland. All things are possible. It’s a chilling moment, and the reference to BTTF was a nice, quick and modern way to make the point.
