PLEASE MAKE IT STOP News Posted by John Hoare on 27th March 2008, 06:13 PLEASE. “The strange thing about Red Dwarf, though, is that it jumped the shark after the first season. In the next seven or so seasons, Cat becomes just another member of the crew, piloting away missions and just generally caring for Lister and Co. whenever they’re lost in space. Not to mention that with a higher budget everything became a bit less dark (as being stuck in space should) and too heavy on the rudimentary special effects. But, you can’t judge a character by the mistakes of the producers, and as long as you watch Season 1 and only Season 1, you won’t give a cat’s ass that Cat’s just plain ridiculous.” I really don’t know what to say. Actually, I do. PLEASE MAKE IT STOP. Oh, and I like the idea that one of the problems with the character is that “he dresses like a seventies pimp” (no, he doesn’t) and “spits out 20th Century pop-culture references”. Erm, yes, because that’s the main issue, rather than the fact that he SPEAKS ENGLISH.
“caring for Lister and Co” Red Dwarf jumped the shark when Series II-VIII focussed mostly on the Cat cleaning out Lister’s colostomy bag.
> It?s funny that when the budget is low how richer the episodes can be to compensate. I’ll never understand this take on Dwarf as long as I live. The budget didn’t shoot up with Series III, it was just spent differently; the budget was always low. And scripts rarely get written with an aim to compensate for lack of production values…
Dear Christ. Quite spart from anything else, The Cat only even REMOTELY becomes the character he’s describing in series V. This is just the worst type of know nothing, pig headed pretention. FUCKING FUCK THE FUCK OFF.
> “I?ll never understand this take on Dwarf as long as I live. The budget didn?t shoot up with Series III, it was just spent differently; the budget was always low.” True enough, but I never realised that this was the case. I always assumed that there was a leap in budget because everything looks so much better. I think if you hadn’t have been told, you would assume the same.
Even though the guy obviously has entirely the wrong take on the Cat’s character in later series, I can understand that if your main reason for liking Red Dwarf was for Cat acting like a Cat, you would think that it jumped the shark after the first series. But quite why that would be your main reason for liking Red Dwarf I do not know.
> But quite why that would be your main reason for liking Red Dwarf I do not know. Yeah, that confused me, too. > I always assumed that there was a leap in budget because everything looks so much better. I think if you hadn?t have been told, you would assume the same. I get the assumption, because the show looked massively different. It’s when one channels that assumption into spurious conclusions about the show’s other qualities that it bothers me. That, and the fact that there’s a ridiculously simplistic popular perception that funding is somehow the enemy of all creativity.
funding is not the enemy of creativity, i never said that, i was merely pointing out that before all the cgi and location shooting, when it was just rimmer and lister getting in to those heated debates and arguments the series was different, not better just different.. …..but hey, thats just my opinion.
Funding only gets in the way of creativity when you’ve got too much money for your own good, which Dwarf never had.
still, i think the person responsible fo doing the blue midget dance routine should be . . ..well…..shot in the head?.
Hey, what was the point of removing the original post? It’s only a discussion… > funding is not the enemy of creativity, i never said that, I didn’t say you did. But it IS an all-too-often-used form of criticism, used by many, and generally fails to take into account a great many factors. > i was merely pointing out that before all the cgi and location shooting, when it was just rimmer and lister getting in to those heated debates and arguments the series was different, not better just different.. Well you said it was ‘richer’. Which, if it’s what you believe, is a valid opinion. It’s just unreasonable, I think, to suggest that change came from budget rather than from the writers realising they’d hit a creative point where the show couldn’t go on, at least not well, without expanding its remit.
still, i think the person responsible fo doing the blue midget dance routine should be ?.well?..shot in the head? That’s ironic as you only see him as a head. From what I saw in the series 8 extras the guy who played Queeg 500 (very well I might add) choreographed the cat/blue midget dance routine. The dance itself anyway. I actually didn’t mind the routine. I’m glad that it turned out to be a CG ‘dream’ though as it works better that way.
