Howard Goodall Composing RDX News Posted by Danny Stephenson on 26th April 2012, 17:32 Well well well! Hasn’t today been exciting? First we get our first official glimpse of the crew in situ, then we then get a very brief mention into what Howard Goodall is currently upto: @HowardGoodall: Just received my first rough cuts of the new Red Dwarf series, looking forward to viewing and putting some music on them. Kipper-time! So Howard Goodall is only going to go and do the bloody music for Red Dwarf X, isn’t he? This is marvellous news. Considering how back in February we had these bombshells to contend with. We still saw a glimmer of hope when Richard Naylor proceeded to rifle through my Dropbox (now, you) containing the library of unused cues from Series 1 – VII for potential clearance. (Series VIII didn’t have any music other than commercials songs and the Blue Midget music) Then in March we get this exchange between Howard and Doug… @DougRDNaylor: Are you 100% sure there’s nothing in the budget left for a little bit of incidental magic? Even if you ditch the wrap party? @Howard_Goodall What wrap party?? Scotch eggs needed as meteorites for miniature reshoot. Call you Monday :)” While I’m all for using the unused cues from earlier series so as to keep Goodall’s sound and strengthen the ‘classic’ feel to this new series, there must have been a reason why the cues were unused in the first place, right? In my opinion, some of the cues are excellent and it’s a shame they weren’t used, but if I’m honest there were only a small handful, some are not so great and though it may come as a complete shock, they sound rather dated. Fancy that! It seems Howard has already had a crack at Remastering the MkI theme tune, which he did as part of a Classic FM Radio show a while back, but also presumably for the new series? Who knows. Well, Howard will won’t he? (You can hear a snippet of the this new version HERE) So it always seemed likely that he could maybe have has his eye on scoring the new series, but this confirmation is just terrific news. Whether the music is produced by software only, software mixed with live recordings or even with orchestral stuff is debatable, but Doug seems to be able to extract haemoglobin-brilliance out of a solid-sedimentary-matter-type-budget so who knows what the hell we’re going to end up getting! PS Please document this process for a DVD Extra please GNP! Thankyou, sorry, bye, bye, thankyou, sorry.
Was Howard’s last original contribution to Red Dwarf the music at the end of Stoke Me A Clipper or was there any other original music after that in series VII?
Was Howard’s last original contribution to Red Dwarf the music at the end of Stoke Me A Clipper or was there any other original music after that in series VII? What about The Munchkin Song?
Oh yeaaaahhhhh! So Howard didn’t bow out of Dwarf with as much class as I thought he had, but that munchkin song was really funny at the time.
The utterly fantastic Avengers movie, and then the first Red Dwarf X publicity photo and this news all in one day. Excellent!
Nice to see everyting coming together, i just hope the writing is as good. p.s. I liked Series 7 and 8. (I know-smite me down)
Hopefully they’ll leave the feem toon alone..Howard is a major asset but there’s no need to use him for stuff that doesn’t need changing. I’m getting a flashback to the Remastered project where they got their hands on some technology and thought “we’d better use this. A lot” and then pimped* out series 1-3 with cartoonish Skutters and a bunch of crud that didnn’t need to be there. “Pimped” = ruined “Remastered” = shit stained
>>…but …but the pipe organs have always been there… *scratching head* The only place I recall hearing the “new” version of the theme song is with the audio books. Never with the actual show. Unless I am totally wrong, which is entirely possible. Anyway, I’m still not too crazy about it.
It sounds like a cheap sci-fi compilation cd version. What’s wrong with the iriginal? Synth cannot beat real instruments.
The only place I recall hearing the “new” version of the theme song is with the audio books. Never with the actual show. Unless I am totally wrong, which is entirely possible. Anyway, I’m still not too crazy about it. The version of the theme on the audiobooks is the series III onwards one.
I’m constantly impressed by the G&T crowd; we are about as dedicated as any fans of anything anywhere. I learned in film music classes that the point of a soundtrack is to augment the emotions of the plot, not necessarily to be intrinsically noticed and appreciated (though it’s lovely when that does happen). As such, it would be perfectly excusable to overlook the news of who the composer will be – but we celebrate Goodall just as we celebrated the use of model shots and a live audience. Admittedly his absence from 8 and BTE was glaring, but even so, the fact that he is SO appreciated by fans makes me as a musician very happy. Nice to see some of you showed him the love on Twitter, too. G&T is a happening place; I think I’ll stay awhile. :)
>The version of the theme on the audiobooks is the series III onwards one. Yeah, but it’s likely she’s hearing it differently due to inconsistent equalization settings on her TV and her…car stero? iPod? Whatever she uses to listen to the audio books. Listening to an album or song on one and then the other, with the settings differently adjusted, can make it sound like an entirely different piece of work, so I suspect that’s why she never twigged it was the same mix.
iPod. All close up and personal-like. Although, I have worn the headset to watch the DVD’s while hubby is on the computer, and never noticed it then, either. Maybe it’s all about context. *shrug*
Heartwarming photo. I’m working my way through the Red Dwarf DVDs ahead of the new series I’ve been paying special attention to the music cues. Great to have Howard back.
Yeah, but it’s likely she’s hearing it differently due to inconsistent equalization settings on her TV and her…car stero? iPod? Whatever she uses to listen to the audio books. Listening to an album or song on one and then the other, with the settings differently adjusted, can make it sound like an entirely different piece of work, so I suspect that’s why she never twigged it was the same mix. You misunderstand me. The remastered version on amazon there is the series I & II theme. The one on the audiobooks is a rerecording of the theme as it is from series III onwards.
>V strong. I jest. Why? ‘Cause I love. >Rich. For me, can you make it a recursive image please? Like this, Dan? Uh, why? :)
Lol i meant the picture of the lads is also the picture on the tv. And so on, and so on, and so on. Etc…
> LookiehereIcandiggrease’nchompin’onsomebunsanddraggin’throughthegarden. Doesn’t that translate as ‘I’ll have a fish,’ P2p?
Ain’t no thang. CheckitBleedbrowasON – didn’trip – butthefolkswasfreakin’manheyandthepilotswerelaidtotheboneHomesoBloodhammeredoutandjammedjetshiptightenedthatbadsuckainsidetherunawaylikeamotha’f’sheit…
So, Howard’s just Tweeted this: @Howard_Goodall: http://twitvid.com/ULHLF – Spoiler-free sneak audio preview of #RedDwarf X hot off the musical press …So that’s nice. :)
Looking back through Howard’s tweet’s there’s this – ANOTHER PICTURE! @Howard_Goodall: 6.05 this morning: the #RedDwarf Score-athon continues… http://pic.twitter.com/h7GWdUPK Okay, let’s see if I can do this… Yay! Thankyou G&T Twitter. I knew it’d come in handy somewhere.
Quite a spoilery picture. It’s a scene from an episode I saw filmed but I won’t say which one. Quite a lot happening in the scene as can be seen and I expect that Goodall’s picture raises quite a few questions for those who haven’t seen the episode. In fact, one of the screencaps that can be seen there was from a bit that hadn’t been filmed at the time of the recording and I was curious to see how that’d turn out. It’s nice to get a sneak peek of it.
Looking at the picture, I would say that it might be considered spoilery for anyone who actually knows what’s happening/which episode it comes from, but for the rest of us, it doesn’t seem that spoilery at all, Just Cat, Kryten and Rimmer in the Drive Room. As for the other, smaller screenshots above it, my eyes are so shocking, I can’t actually make enough out to spoil anything. :/
I never considered it to be spoilery at all until NoFro suggested it was. Now I can’t help but think there’s a huge reason why Lister’s not there.
Maybe not spoilery but the pictures definitely encourage speculation in a way that no other images really have.
I can’t glean anything plot-wise from that photo, though it does get me excited to see the new series.
Looking at the picture, I would say that it might be considered spoilery for anyone who actually knows what’s happening/which episode it comes from, but for the rest of us, it doesn’t seem that spoilery at all, Just Cat, Kryten and Rimmer in the Drive Room. As for the other, smaller screenshots above it, my eyes are so shocking, I can’t actually make enough out to spoil anything. :/ Well at the very least it’s the first look at one of the guest stars. With a zoom in and a close look you can make some logical assumptions though.
I never considered it to be spoilery at all until NoFro suggested it was. Now I can’t help but think there’s a huge reason why Lister’s not there. Though one assumes that the last small shot is Lister from the scene shot after the audience recording.
> Oh wow, that’s…different. Obviously Red Dwarf in places, but also quite a different take. This is the Red Dwarf era, post-New Who. That could be a Murray Gold score.
That music score is certainly a very different path and can’t be accused of copying previous themes. judging by images, is Kryten talking some one (possibly Lister) on monitor, interesting
That image of Kryten talking to someone on a massive screen almost looks like Genius Holly from White Hole. Have to assume that it would have been leaked by now if Hattie was back though. :(
Looks like Howard Goodall has deleted the two tweets. Gutted! I never got chance to listen to his sneak preview of music. Anyone still got it?
This link seems to be still working: http://www.twitvid.com/ULHLF It’s called ‘Going for the Phone’ which will mean a lot to anyone who saw that particular episode. Love it.
Due to being INCREDIBLY BUSY AT MY PLACE OF WORK WHERE I AM A VERY IMPORTANT MAN your comment was the first time I’ve seen that he posted a music clip, so thanks for that!
And thank you for reposting the link for me because i presumed the music was gone with the tweet. =D Is anyone able to make that into an MP3? I want it in my iTunes with all the other RD cues. =)
>I never considered it to be spoilery at all until NoFro suggested it was. Agreed. I had no idea how any of this could possibly be a spoiler until several folks outlined for me precisely how this could be a spoiler.
I know i’ll probably be attacked by Dwarf heavies for saying this, but i don’t actually like the sound of that music cue. The composition actually sounds fantastic, but the synth doesn’t do it justice by a long shot in my view. That cue NEEDS to be played by an actual orchestra. Just imagine the music from ‘Stoke me a Clipper’ played on that same synth, it would sound terrible. Unless i’m missing the obvious and it’s a temp track.
I hate to be the stick in the mud but I’ve gotta say dude, I agree with ya. I like the composition but the sound set really lets it down. i’m all for a retro feel and everything but I really hope this is a temp track. Those tympani samples haven’t changed since the Series III cues!
I’m not keen on the choral-ly bits (?) but I rather like the plinky-plonky bits. Music journalism is clearly my forté.
> The composition actually sounds fantastic, but the synth doesn’t do it justice by a long shot in my view. Agreed. Does sound very Dwarfy to me. Especially the “plinky-plonky” bits.
Got any spare cash to pay an orchestra then? -.- The main thing is that this (at least to my ears) sounds like Dwarf incidental music!
Nice… this news made me happy… yippiee its good to listen that everyone is coming together for this….
Mr. Goodall tweeted yesterday: “So excited about Friday’s #London2012 Opening Ceremony and my little musical contribution(s). An honour to be involved. Danny Boyle=genius.” I’d missed the news that he was involved. Did you all know about this?
I didn’t know he was involved. That’s pretty cool. I’ll try to find out more. There are rumours Mike Oldfield has been working on something for the Olympics as well. Very eclectic mix of people involved here.