The One Where Everyone’s Kryten News Posted by Ian Symes on 28th July 2017, 20:19 Apologies for being far too late to provide the full write-up on this, but the following tweet rather took us by surprise when it was posted in what was effectively the middle of the night: In Space, No-One Can Hear You Clean #RedDwarfXII pic.twitter.com/cKtlme8aRU — Red Dwarf (@RedDwarfHQ) July 28, 2017 Yes, the first official cast photo from Series XII is not your conventional everyone-in-front-of-a-spacescape shot, but rather a teaser from a particularly unusual episode. Remember that while us lot have known about this storyline for ages, the general public are learning about it for the first time, and as their first exposure to the series. You’ve got to hand it to them – this was a brilliant marketing decision, as this has received far more press coverage and social media discussion than a bog-standard cast shot would have done; it’s only been a year since the last one, and the costumes and make-up won’t have changed much. It even made the print media, with the Daily Mirror providing a pun headline which very nearly works, and yet emphatically doesn’t. But what of the photo itself? Well, it’s clearly utterly superb. It’s bizarre just how much Chris Barrie still just looks like Chris Barrie when he’s encased in mechanoid make-up. Such a powerful set of facial muscles, and the android nostrils appear to be appropriately flared. Danny similarly retains an innate Dannyness, and it’ll be interesting to see if Catbot has fangs, given that Rimmerdroid still has an H. Weirdly, Kryten doesn’t look particularly Krytenish in this shot, the seemingly smoother lines from this angle bringing to mind the original version of the XI promo shot. And then Craig just looks… weird. I think it’s the open mouth that does it, as it makes the overall shape of the head longer and less round than Craig’s cheeky chops. And while Danny’s mask matches his natural skin tone, Craig’s looks lighter even than Robert and Chris’s caucasian mechanoids. It must just be the lighting in this particular shot, as this amusing tweet from Doug suggests that he looks less “white” on screen. An earlier Doug tweet revealed that in addition to the four regulars, the episode features around 30 mechanoids. Take a bow, make-up department. Over on TOS, their write-up on the picture features quotes from the four guys, along with several new behind-the-scenes photos. These photos are all, without exception, fantastic, but first place has to go the visage of Chris Barrie, his face fully rubbered-up, pouring his curves into a fetching dressing gown, toasting the camera with a particularly large and particularly beige mug of tea. And again, his face is somehow still Chris Barrie’s face. Expect a new banner imminently. What a joyous day it’s been, watching the wider world starting to talk about Red Dwarf again. As we slide inexorably towards Autumn, this is hopefully the start of a more regular release of information over the coming weeks. It’s time to do it all again; back-to-back annual series for the first time since 1992/1993. Bring it on.
Doug on twitter has mentioned there are 30 Krytens and this would back up Bobby’s Army of Krytens comment. I hope there are more pictures today – a trailer would be nice too but I’ll knock myself out until 11:30 and see then.
Chris looks amazing!!! My eyes can’t quite cope with how kryten and still how rimmer that is, what a great face actor he is of course. I’m grinning at his gurning. Kryten, Rimten, Caten and Listen!! Ha ha So chris is a mech and a hologram still, interesting.
I think I can safely say, without violating the spoiler policy, this is The One I Was In The Audience For. Craig’s mask looks a bit different to how it did in the pre-records, I must say.
Chris’ face is just great in that picture. Any chance we can map that onto that shot in Legion, instead of what we got?
Cwickham – so they weren’t live in front of you on the recording night? Makes sense. Great point by Grant le Pierres on facebook. Chris could have played Davros!!!
My emotions after seeing this image are striking back and forth from excitement and dread. This is just one of those ideas that could drown in its execution if done wrong.
The set reports seemed to suggest that it was handled pretty well so my hopes aren’t as low as they would be if, say, this was the first image we saw of BtE or X*. *which would be weird, promoting BtE or X with an episode that’s not even part of those series.
Cwickham – so they weren’t live in front of you on the recording night? Makes sense. Great point by Grant le Pierres on facebook. Chris could have played Davros!!! I think I’m safe in saying that all the stuff where Everyone Was Kryten was pre-recorded, yes.
I hope they all start competing TV channels and have a ratings war. They could call it Krytie TVs. Everybody would love it.
I’m wondering if they actually ‘become’ mechanoids or whether it’s an alt-dimension where everyone is one…can’t wait to find out! :D The site is doing a good job of pretending everyone doesn’t know the title ‘Mechocracy’ :D granted, it COULD be changed…but it would be crazy to do so as it’s a decent title, as were the others that leaked.
Has anybody got that image DJ-J tweeted about 5 years ago or more with him and Craig larking about in the Kryten masks that lead to Doug writing this episode? I just want to compare the two…
Found it here. No comparison really… https://twitter.com/RichardDGNaylor/status/179197415843315714/photo/1
I don’t remember seeing that. Do you mean “used” masks, already worn by Robert? They’d be all sweaty and smelly wouldn’t they?
>The site is doing a good job of pretending everyone doesn’t know the title ‘Mechocracy’ Siliconia could also be the title. And neither could be the title since the six listed on the Blu-Ray apparently aren’t the final titles.
I don’t remember seeing that. Do you mean “used” masks, already worn by Robert? They’d be all sweaty and smelly wouldn’t they? I first heard about it in March of 2012 at the Sci-fi Weekender at the National Space Centre. I wrote about it on another forum then (and probably on here too, but can’t find it) [quote]So, today I attended the National Space Centre in Leicester where they were holding their British Sci-Fi Weekend event. At this event was mostly Doctor Who stuff….and Danny John-Jules with Chris Barrie. The Q&A with them was, for the most part, run of the mill and predictable. “Danny, did you enjoy singing tongue tied?” and “How much like your characters are you in real life?”. You know, that kind of thing… But, as ever, there are some beauties to behold. Such as an audience member pointing out that it was Robert Llewellyns birthday and can we call him to sing Happy Birthday. Chris obliged and so, as BobbyLlew fed his chickens at home, we sang birthday wishes down Chris’s phone to him…bizzare!! But at the end we got a story from Danny that I’d never heard before. I think it’s a new one….certainly I haven’t had anybody say ‘oh yeah. He mentioned that at so and so a few months back’ Apparently, for a laugh, he and Craig got hold of a pair of Robert’s old used Kryten faces. Put them on and then got the make up department to “black them up” to match their own skin tones. they went downstairs to bother Doug…..who, according to Danny, started thinking of plotline which could incoporate this new Kryten/ rest of the crew hybrid. He apparently has pictures on his iPhone and claimed he is more than happy to show anyone if they wanted to see him after. So, I think we should all Tweet him asking to see them…. [/quote]
I sincerely hope the title is either ‘The One Where Everyone’s Kryten’ or ‘In Space, No-One Can Hear You Clean’, despite the fact that either would be far and away the longest RD episode title ever.
Danny and Chris are recognisable. Can’t see Craig in that at all. >The site is doing a good job of pretending everyone doesn’t know the title ‘Mechocracy’ :D granted, it COULD be changed…but it would be crazy to do so as it’s a decent title, as were the others that leaked. Or, er, there’s another possibility entirely.
Aside from the inherent creepiness of them (something about Craig’s mask is giving me the shivers…) I have to say that the makeup team have done an excellent job. The blending around the eyes and mouths is pretty much indistinguishable. I guess if it’s a publicity shot there was probably some touching up done in Photoshop, but still – great work. I mean, it’s fucking horrifying…but you know.
Rimmer, Cat, Kryten and the ghost of Celebrities Disfigured come back to haunt us. “Did you like that one? Cocoon?”
It was already said at the recording that Chris had been ill that week. I didn’t realise that (assuming Craig was being serious) it was actually being in the Kryten get-up that was the cause of the illness.
Saw my Dad today and he brought up the picture. He said he’d definitely have to tune into that episode. This is a guy who repeatedly tells me that Red Dwarf has been rubbish since they lost Red Dwarf. Hilariously he said that “Kryten isn’t one of the four in the picture” and I had to point out that he was on the far right. Actually I’ve had a few comments from non-hardcore fans of the show about this picture. Seems to have picked up a good bit of publicity. Think it would make good sense to put it first in the run as it seems to be an idea that has captured the imagination of people.
It’d be hilarious if your dad meant lost Red Dwarf as in lost the crew, so he feels the show went downhill after the first 15 minutes of ‘The End’ but picked up for the last 15 minutes of ‘Stasis Leak’. Series VIII would’ve been a ‘real return to form and makes you wonder why they minced about with just four characters for seven series’.
It’d be hilarious if your dad meant lost Red Dwarf as in lost the crew, so he feels the show went downhill after the first 15 minutes of ‘The End’ but picked up for the last 15 minutes of ‘Stasis Leak’.
Over on TOS, their write-up on the picture features quotes from the four guys, along with several new behind-the-scenes photos. Was checking back in on this article (can’t believe I guessed the title on Google first try, lol) and found myself wishing this had been relinked to the TOS archives. Any shot old articles will ever get updated with archive links? As with any feature question, I acknowledge that I have little clue how tough this would be to do/automate and also have no idea how busy this site’s caretakers in any given month.
Whoops, I probably should have thought to do that, however, (1) in my defense, little tougher to think to do on mobile (something pops up in my toolbar that mostly covers the link, too, which had me thinking I was being redirected all over the place), and (2) I’d imagine that unseasoned visitors to from-the-archives G&T articles, while uncommon, likely do exist, and I’d feel they deserve as complete of a reading experience as possible
Yeah, to be fair, even with the workaround it would still be cool if all these legacy links worked straight away. It’s just a question of effort vs. benefit. The uniformity of the edit needed to each link would make it easier I assume, but unless it’s possible to do a Find and Replace on the HTML of every page at once, it seems like it would be a pretty big and boring job.
but unless it’s possible to do a Find and Replace on the HTML of every page at once, it seems like it would be a pretty big and boring job. Yes, it seems to me as though automation could be plausible but I would never wish the task of visiting every old article one-by-one and manually editing links upon anyone.
Rezzing this thread has brought to my attention just how scultped and Chris-Barrie-like Chris Barrie’s makeup is in that episode, perhaps aided by his incredible ability to gurn. He looks stellar. Danny looks pretty good too, while Craig is just completely indistinct and doesn’t look like anybody, at moments it feels like his makup is falling off. And they made him white which doesn’t help. Kryten has never looked like Robert Llewellyn, to me, and Camille doesn’t really look like Judy Pascoe to me either, so maybe it’s less “Craig’s makeup is uncharacteristically poor” and more “Chris Barrie’s makeup is uncharacteristically good.”
