DwarfCast 164 – The Smegazine Rack – Issue #9 DwarfCasts Posted by Ian Symes on 25th July 2023, 14:32 Subscribe to DwarfCasts: RSS • iTunes “The Manly Adventures of Buff Squidward” Rejoice, for our journey through the Smegazine archives continues with quite possibly the best issue yet. The first ever Duane Dibbley comeback! Tonnes of dirt on Red Dwarf USA! Loads of exciting news, some of which actually ended up happening! Some tedious prose pieces to keep us all grounded! Plus, we think we’ve uncovered the first published work of an acclaimed comics writer and Red Dwarf fan. All this and more, in far too much detail even by our standards. Since we were last on the Rack, better quality scans of the mags have been made available via lovely archive site Stasis Leak. The colours are much more faithful to the page than the version on archive.org. DwarfCast 164 – The Smegazine Rack – Issue #9 (149MB) Show notes Colin Howard’s artwork for the free poster Remade in America: The reality of remaking UK sitcoms Growing the Beard Craig Charles stars in Weather Watch Clive Swift from Keeping Up Appearances gives the worst official tie-in magazine interview of all time Ice to see you Two of Spandau Ballet sign for Melchester Rovers Tighten up the graphics on level 3
Had that poster on my bedroom door for the next four years, when we moved house. It survived largely intact, although my little brother, who was two or three at the time, scribbled on a bit of it (thankfully not all over their faces), which I wasn’t particularly pleased about.
Looking forward to listening later this week but here’s some rambly notes I made while reading. Norm interview. I’ve always thought Holly’s pixellated look in Series 1 was just a video effect but here he’s complaining about them putting “rubber milk” on his face too? Pretty sure I’ve never heard that anywhere else ever. Is the miserable git just making up stuff to whinge about? Also was VI not having a studio audience ever really on the cards? Don’t think I’ve ever heard that either. Rob and Doug on the American pilot is brilliant. There are some interesting details here I didn’t know about before. They’re also more scathing than in other accounts we’ve gotten over the years. I guess the whole experience was pretty raw for them at this point. Some of this is very funny too. Great article, the highlight of this issue. I don’t know what “space-age ashtrays” Rob’s on about that were the same as the ones in the UK show. I’m wondering whether Doug misremembered the Mars bar/Milky Way confusion, or perhaps just simplified it for the sake of a good anecdote. IIRC they do indeed have a chocolate bar in the States called a Milky Way which is the same as a UK Mars bar (the nougat is a little different but apart from that it’s the same), but the closest thing they’ve got to a UK Milky Way is a 3 Musketeers. The names might have changed over the years though. Have I got that right, USians?
The more grounded hallucination pointing out the unlikelihood of the reality was also done in a late Buffy episode (2002) (and maybe in other things). DOCTOR: Buffy’s delusions are multi-layered. She believes she’s some type of hero. […] She’s also created an intricate latticework to support her primary delusion. In her mind, she’s the central figure in a fantastic world beyond imagination. She’s surrounded herself with friends, most with their own superpowers, who are as real to her as you or me. More so, unfortunately. Together they face grand overblown conflicts against an assortment of monsters, both imaginary and rooted in actual myth. Every time we think we’re getting through to her, more fanciful enemies magically appear. They acknowledge it in Back to Reality itself, but I need things spelled out.
> The more grounded hallucination pointing out the unlikelihood of the reality was also done in a late Buffy episode (2002) (and maybe in other things). my initial reaction when listening to that part was Far Beyond the Stars, the DS9 episode. Though in that the hallucination turns reality into a story Sisko is writing.
my initial reaction when listening to that part was Far Beyond the Stars, the DS9 episode. Though in that the hallucination turns reality into a story Sisko is writing. I did look up the reprise where he’s in the asylum, but it wasn’t along the “how is this one the false reality?!” lines I was thinking. It might be in some clever-dick Alan Moore / Gaiman comic reboot where a superhero has to remember his past, Marvelman or something.
Kind of wild though to think that you don’t need despair-squid ink to revert to the BTR reality, just a bit of a bang on the head.
Kitching is great. Whilst I generally favour more realistic depictions in comics, I do think a semi-cartoon style fits Red Dwarf better.
I’ll be the pedant to point out that Nigel Kitching is mainly known for writing STC, not drawing. He drew the odd Sonic story, but he mainly just did his own ‘Decap Attack’ strip. My first Smegazine opened with one of his stories, it was comforting.
The artist on the second comic is the legendary Ron Smith, famous for drawing Judge Dredd in 2000AD and the Daily Star (yes, you read that correctly). He was known for using an alarm clock to ensure that his comics work paid a decent “hourly wage”, working only until the alarm sounded and then tossing that page aside to start the next one, with which the process would be repeated…. this anecdote is often shared with a mixture of horror and awe in modern-day comic artist circles! Sadly, we lost Ron in 2019 at the grand old age of 90.
(and maybe in other things). It’s quite ‘Return to Oz’ as well, except the mundane world is the real world there (or one of them). Cat’s bump on the head and the dream counterparts being more generally ‘Wizard.’
Right then! – Front cover. That’s quite a striking image. These leap off the shelf more each issue. – “Sorry we haven’t got room for a contents page because we’ve secured an actual advert this month.” – Flashback. But what about the much anticipated Balance of Power seventeen part adaptation?! What in the bejesus has happened to Holly’s face?! Hmm, there’s a lot of exposition in two panels. Just setting up the whole of Red Dwarf and Back to Reality for the many thousands reading this award of neither. Ok, wasn’t expecting this to actually take place in the BTR universe. This got bleak quickly. Maxwell Pension Fund. Very good. I’m not sure if I’m being sarcastic there. That’s a pretty great image anyway. The writer clearly had access to Rob’s Notebook Of Very Funny Things To Make People Squirm when writing this. Well, that was quite fun. Visually striking and some grimness. Not many laughs though. – Red Dwarf USA. If I was the sort of person who enjoyed quoting things out of context, I’d choose this remark about Craig Bierko’s Lister: “he brings something new to the part: he acts well…” On the whole I’d say it’s a surprisingly fair and balanced review. I don’t agree with all of it, but it’s thought out rather than just reactionary. – News from the Dwarf. “And if you buy both, think how much fun you can have working out where the changes are,” and other Ganymede & Titan articles. I wonder if there’ll be any more news on the development of the Oo-ee-oo Dimension, I’m really curious to see how far things got and what it was changing into. Graphic novel! I wonder what that might have been. Christ, the unabridged cassette audiobook was worth more than £40 in today’s money. Wow, Ghostwatch news! I bet they had no idea how iconic that would end up being. – Rimmer Diaries Oh God it’s another one of those ‘reference plots and jokes from episodes’ stories isn’t it? The traffic cop story is ok I suppose, an original idea at least, and I liked the idea that when something bad happens, it’s immediately pushed in Rimmer’s direction. Ok, the inclusion of Geldof made me laugh. Christ, is this really the same Steve Lyons who wrote the really imaginative, thoughtful and funny Doctor Who novels set in the Land of Fiction? It’s honestly really hard to believe that article was the work of a published author. – Two page advert. The word is obviously out: the Smegazine is a great place to get new audiences. – Application for employment. Patrick McCoy and Peter Baker. Guessing this is another Lyons contribution, then. Well, that was a page that exists. – Norman Lovett interview. Generous, fair and even handed. Who is this and what have they done with the real Norman? God, I can’t imagine him doing ‘rock oriented’ musical stand up. The first time the info about Holly only being a voiceover for the first two studio sessions appears. It’s fascinating to see all this stuff dribble out. I might be critical of most of the fiction in these magazines, but stuff like this must have been amazing to read at the time. These interviews form the backbone of all the famous behind the scenes stories that no doubt contributed to the structure of the DVD documentaries. Apparently series V wasn’t funny enough. I mean, fair enough, Terrorform, Quarantine and Back to Reality aren’t known for their huge laughs oh wait Interesting that there was a rumour of VI being filmed like VII. I don’t recall coming across that elsewhere. Really interesting comparison between alternative comedians and Benny Hill. That whole answer is the kind of insight into comedy and Norm that you never normally see. I think he came across really well there. Definitely nowhere near as bitter and grumpy as he does later on. – Androids. Oh God this is going to happen every issue isn’t it? – Rimmer. Another one of those pages. Meh. – Holly-Grams James Roberts seems to have misunderstood the point of this page: it’s for fans to write in with unfunny references to the show or be utterly pedantic about stuff. Not sure why he thinks a well written, serious critical response to the continual improvements to the magazine is appropriate. – In Living Memory Now this actually feels quite Red Dwarfish. Not tremendously funny, but tonally right. The mirror showing Cat to Rimmer got a big laugh. Oh bloody hell, wasn’t expecting it to be continued. They’re definitely going for ‘writing a new episode’ here, then. – Red Dwarf USA II. That was my favourite part of the issue, as it goes into way more detail than the DVD documentary did. Really, really interesting. – and closing on a pixelated image of Norman’s face. Lovely. That was definitely my favourite so far. It felt like another step up in quality after the last two. Other than Rimmer’s diary, it felt like a proper, professional publication. Lovely stuff.
That callback to Rimmer’s Diaries in the ‘In Living Memory’ strip: The date in the strip is given as “14th Geldof”, and Rimmer lost his pen “last Wednesday”. In Rimmer’s diary, the pen had gone missing on 30th March. So even if Geldof has replaced April as the following month, In Living Memory is set more than a fortnight later, so the whole “last Wednesday” thing is either complete bollocks, or…he’s lost another pen. . . I need to get out more.
Dwarfcast responses: They Might Be Giants’ 1992 album was called Apollo 18 and features a squid on the cover. Coincidence? (They also later released an album called Nanobots.) The more I think about Androids, the more I realise my main issue is that I have absolutely no investment in what’s going on whatsoever so it’s hard to push past any of the structural issues. I’m glad someone else remembers Dinosaur! Magazine. My T-Rex skin fit the skeleton, I’m sure. But I missed the issue that had the parts for the skull. When I was a kid I had no interest in computer games but I always wanted to play Ecco the Dolphin.
So this was a pretty great Dwarfcast for another pretty great Smegazine issue. Right from the off I think the cover sets the tone with its colour and energy. The Duane story is excellent – I agree that it’s probably the best original strip so far in the Smegazine, particularly the great art (I love the abstract style for Holly) and the solid visual storytelling – that page with the parallel panels in the two different realities is a standout, and the recreation of the shot of the four of them from Back To Reality is fantastic – a page of original art I’d love to own. If I’m going to pick tiny nits with it, Cat’s recall of Back To Reality is slightly faulty (he says that after the hallucination “suddenly we were back on Red Dwarf,” rather than Starbug) and the Robert Maxwell reference is a bit random. But otherwise: great! The Red Dwarf USA review is a nice even-handed take (and I found it momentarily baffling that Jane Leeves wasn’t yet a household name at this point) and the news page is a real time capsule – Ghostwatch, Brittas, Maid Marian, Cyberzone, there was a lot going on with the Dwarf cast (not the Dwarfcast) back then. I also love the comment about fans painstakingly comparing the original RD novels with the omnibus version and having fun working out what all the changes are, an idea that was clearly about 30 years ahead of its time. Moving on to the Rimmer diary… well it’s a lovely illustration anyway, a fantastic shot of the green suit, particularly the colours with the shiny effect on his boots. But yes, the content is weak in these pieces, and I have a bit of a theory as to why they consistently don’t work. I think it’s because they isolate the characters into solo monologues, and in doing so remove the interactions and interplay that makes Red Dwarf work. All of the lead characters, despite their various depths and nuances, are at times in danger of falling into easy broad stereotypical versions of themselves (Lister is a slob who likes curry etc.) – and when you base a solo “diary” feature like this on just one of them, it ends up being a concentrated blast of that simple stereotype. So Cat is vain and self-obsessed, or Rimmer is neurotic and pompous and irritable, and you get beaten over the head with these characteristics over and over, for three pages. Which isn’t funny. But what you don’t get here is the interaction between these characters (or with anyone else), which is what really brings them to life – the conflict, the contrasts, the jokes, the interplay. In these solo diary pieces there’s nothing for them to push back against, and so it ends up feeling like a crap one-man-show where their only material is just repeating their own basic character traits over and over. (Basically, don’t make a solo Rimmer spinoff sitcom, is what I’m saying.) I think you can see how the characters benefit from being given something to push back against with the JMC application page. Yes, it’s very Mr Bean’s Diary-esque (and as such, it kind of feels like a prototype version of the Red Dwarf Survival Manual) but in giving Lister the authority of the JMC to push back against and seeing how he reacts in that specific situation, you get lots of good humour naturally arising from his character, rather than his character itself being the joke. (Although nitpicking again, the handwriting feels too neat for Lister.) Moving on to the Norman Lovett interview, I thought it was a bit eyebrow-raising for the intro to open with a bit of casual racism towards the Scottish. But after that there’s lots of good stuff in there – I liked the foreshadowing about crawling back to Rob and Doug for work, and filming the next series without a live audience. Androids, next. While I liked the strips last issue, I’m with you that I found this one baffling and borderline-unreadable. I hope it gets better again next time. As for the “In Living Memory” strip, I quite enjoyed this one. I also love that opening shot of Red Dwarf – there’s something weirdly techno-organic about it, like an HR Giger design. Although the “Buff Squidward” comments about the art made me laugh. And I loved that final interview on RD USA, it’s very surprising that Rob and Doug were willing to be so candid about it all at that stage. I wasn’t even aware of the final proposal for a third version, baffling. And we end on a terrifying back cover! Lovely.
Oh, and on the question about the ad that refers to “the first Superman”, I’m wondering whether it could refer to a UK reprint of John Byrne’s Man of Steel series? This was a reboot of Superman that came after DC reset their entire continuity with the Crisis On Infinite Earth’s crossover event, with Byrne then getting to (re)tell the Superman origin all over again in a new continuity. The series started in 1986, so a UK reprint in the early ’90s sounds about right.
Oh, and Ecco the dolphin really is wild once you get further into the story past those serene opening levels. It’s an absolutely bonkers full-on sci-fi time-travel alien-invasion storyline that also involves you visiting Atlantis. A proper fever-dream of a game that gets quite chilling and unsettling by the end.
Lovely episode as per. The Smegazine Rack episodes have been getting consistently longer since #4, so personally I’ll be a bit disappointed if there isn’t a 3 hour long one by #15. Blimey, that Stasis Leak site is a marvel! I did experience some frustration with how many of the magazines either don’t have PDF download buttons at all or have non-working ones, but still, what a treasure trove. – ‘Flashback’ is an amazing way to start. The Duane Dibbley comics are one of the Smegazine strips people always talk about, so it’s great to finally read one, and have it be so well done. Although I was somewhat surprised that they made it clear that the Dibbley reality was just Cat hallucinating again. Obviously that’s needed for it work as a sequel to Back to Reality properly, but the second hand descriptions made it sound like the premise was “for this story only, the hallucination IS the real world”. Maybe future strips will unlock the potential of that, but if not I’ll happily take more editions of ‘The Cat bumps his head and goes weird for a bit” while the writing and art are this good. – The nurse’s point about the premise of Red Dwarf being too absurd to be reality is good, but it mades me realise: it must be a lot harder to treat patients whose memories didn’t recover after they spent 4 years in the Total Immersion Video Game Euro Truck Simulator. – It is a generally fair review, but I’m baffled about what Jane Kilick’s objection to Hinton Battle was. I definitely counted his Cat performance as one of the things that was spot on about Red Dwarf USA. – I agree that there’s no need to dedicate a whole page to the confirmation of Series VI if there are very few actual details to report, but still, you’d think they would have put “new series confirmed!” in bold or all caps or something. Come on guys, I know Series V had 0 jokes in it, but you could muster a bit more enthusiasm. – The artwork in the Rimmer’s diary feature is way better than it deserves to be. – Interesting to hear some differing positions about whether or not Norman is being a grumpy git in his interview or not. I don’t think he’s being grumpy as such, but he is definitely being quite defensive (not unreasonably, of course), and he didn’t do an amazing job of disguising the fact that he felt resentful towards Hattie for replacing him. A lot of it is probably due to not being able to hear his tone. When he says “I’m really happy with the work I’ve done since leaving Red Dwarf and have big hopes for I, Lovett”, I’m imagining gritted teeth almost, but it might not have been like that really. – ‘In Living Memory’ – pretty good! And the design of the monster of the end in particular was great. But, out of the 2 original comic strips, this wasn’t the one I would have chosen to have a “TO BE CONTINUED… ” on the end of it.
The JMC application made me laugh in places, which I don’t remember happening when skimming Paul Alexander’s books. It’s very satisfying to see the novel continuity so embraced too. I was disconcerted by the revelation of Norman’s age too. Remember that this was in 1992, so the Holly we see in series 1 was a sprightly 41 and 42-year-old. My dino skin fit over the skeleton fine, so I got to enjoy the sight of dimly glowing-in-the-dark teeth on top of my bookcase for a few years. Hmm, there’s a lot of exposition in two panels. Just setting up the whole of Red Dwarf and Back to Reality for the many thousands reading this award of neither. This is/was a standard comics thing, superheroes constantly reminding themselves of their origins for the benefit of new/casual readers. Not having seen Back to Reality is a fair assumption for 1992 though. Even by 2000, I’d read some Smegazine Back to Reality stories before I got a chance to see the actual episode, I just knew the general story from reference books.
The application form was one of my favourite pages in that issue when I was a kid. I very distinctly remember sitting in our front room floor and reading it again and again.
> I’m glad someone else remembers Dinosaur! Magazine. My T-Rex skin fit the skeleton, I’m sure. But I missed the issue that had the parts for the skull. im positive the skin fit too. Even at such a young age I was perplexed why you’d have glow in the dark skeleton and then cover it up so you couldn’t see it.
im positive the skin fit too. Even at such a young age I was perplexed why you’d have glow in the dark skeleton and then cover it up so you couldn’t see it. The issue for me was with the head. It just wouldn’t snap together when it was over the skellington! But yeah, I just had them displayed separately as that makes more sense anyway.
Oh, and on the question about the ad that refers to “the first Superman”, I’m wondering whether it could refer to a UK reprint of John Byrne’s Man of Steel series? This was a reboot of Superman that came after DC reset their entire continuity with the Crisis On Infinite Earth’s crossover event, with Byrne then getting to (re)tell the Superman origin all over again in a new continuity. The series started in 1986, so a UK reprint in the early ’90s sounds about right. Haven’t listened to the podcast yet, but yes, that advert is referring to a comic that began by reprinting the Man of Steel miniseries: https://britishcomics.fandom.com/wiki/Superman_(London_Editions_Magazines) I only have one issue of that comic (#55 from late 1992 – around the same time as this Smegazine issue), and by that time they’d moved beyond the Byrne run and were reprinting issues from 1989 (the issue I have reprints this one). Because of that, I don’t read that Smegazine advert as “The first Superman” (as in “Superman from the very start”), but as “The first… … and greatest of them all!” (meaning “the first and best superhero”).
I haven’t shagged anyone from The Victorian era, so I don’t think I’m a link between VE & G&T, as far as my aged memory holds up on this topic.
The current world’s oldest person was born in 1907, so it’s no longer possible. You’ve let us all down.
The current world’s oldest person was born in 1907, so it’s no longer possible. You’ve let us all down. That’s oldest “Living” person. It’s only been 8 years since the last Victorian woman passed, and you saw what happened to Caroline Carmen, There’s still Hope.
Lovely long rambly Dwarfcast. Pretty sure the only picture of the despair squid model I’ve seen is this one from the Companion book The Duane strip is my favourite so far too. I guess those panels showing reality side by side with the hallucination are the comic strip version of doing the match cut from Jake Bullet to Kryten lowering the gun/harpoon gun. Very cool. The Smegazine Rack episodes have been getting consistently longer since #4, so personally I’ll be a bit disappointed if there isn’t a 3 hour long one by #15. Reckon the bumper final issue’s gonna need a three parter at least.
This took far too long to make and went completely off the rails by the end, but tough, it’s here now. Also, isn’t it interesting how, when coming up with a four-digit number, they managed to use 1, 4, 6 and 9 both times?
Also, isn’t it interesting how, when coming up with a four-digit number, they managed to use 1, 4, 6 and 9 both times? 169 crew too. Clearly some high-level numerology going on. White Corridor 159 a bit off.
This took far too long to make and went completely off the rails by the end, but tough, it’s here now. Amazing
Unrelated side note, I met Alex Winter in London last week and he was lovely. Never in a million years did I think I’d get a chance to meet Bill and/or Ted, don’t fancy my chances of getting Keanu to complete the set though!
Unrelated side note, I met Alex Winter in London last week and he was lovely. Not many people go up in your estimations after following them on Twitter but Alex Winter and Ed Solomon are two of those people. Excellent human beings.
Unrelated side note, I met Alex Winter in London last week and he was lovely. Never in a million years did I think I’d get a chance to meet Bill and/or Ted, don’t fancy my chances of getting Keanu to complete the set though! You could probably invite Keanu round for tea and he’d turn up
Forgive me for making another reference to the Frasier project that I am working on… The director of Red Dwarf USA, Jeff Melman, later directed 19 episodes of Frasier and you might expect the crew members to have nothing but positive things to say about his abilities. I will cryptically say no more than that. It would be interesting to hear from one of the American writers of the pilot. John Frank Rosenblum is listed on IMDB as an uncredited writer, but I can’t remember ever hearing of any other writers who worked on it (apart from Linwood Boomer, obviously).
According to no more prestigious a source than the Fresh Prince of Bel Air Fandom wiki… Jeff Melman was the director of the first season of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air along with Debbie Allen and few others. He notoriously hated Will, and acted out by replacing all his sugar with salt.
To pick up my thoughts from last months’ issue about the rapid evolution from what felt like a well put together fanzine into something more befitting a newsstand rag, I’m half-reminded of that quote about surrounding yourself with talented people, and to that end, Jane Killick has really raised the bar since the introduction of her writing, with her deep dive articles and newsbits that are brilliantly informative and engaging, and filled with the kind of personality that never grates or overshadows the subject matter, but never feels too dry either. Presumably, Killick’s presence has also allowed Howarth and Lyons more time to work on the things they’re good at, such as their typically excellent interviews (and looking ahead to next month, or this month in podcast terms, the Top 30 countdown). In Living Memory is more along the lines of the kind of comic I want, art style wise at least. I’m slightly torn on the story but it’s an issue all the original comics face – write something original that potentially misses the mark of the Grant Naylor style of writing, or come up with something like this, which feels very true to the show but achieves it by feeling somewhat derivative. It’s a little bit DNA meets Polymorph, with a sprinkling of the dream recorder. Things like smelling the car drawings, and Cat himself being obsessed with the mirror weren’t things they ever went back to in the show, so here it perhaps feels like they’re just referencing something for the sake of it, but it at least adds a flavour that feels authentic. Overall I liked it though, even if the cliffhanger did feel like it had been lifted from the climactic showdown scene from Ghostbusters, as Lister chooses the form of the destructor. Ultimately, the premise was a good one, though it did lead me off down a path marked “idea for an episode”, in which they discover the machine and mis-remember plot devices and characters from previous episodes, leading to all kinds of wacky and hilarious fan service set-pieces. And you can have that one for free if you’re reading, Doug. Speaking of terrible ideas – Androids was shit this month, wasn’t it? I had some Smegazines as a kid and this one unlocked a memory for me, namely that I hadn’t seen Series II yet, and had no reference point for the strip other than Kryten was a robot and these are robots, but he isn’t in it, and it’s a parody of Neighbours and Home and Away, which I already resent being forced to watch twice a day and don’t want to read a satire of in a Red Dwarf magazine thank you very much. Next months’ is a lot better, but overall it just feels like an excuse to fill up half a page with baseline observations about soap opera plot devices, rather than anything Dwarf-related. Finally, I’ve been chuckling at Danny’s ongoing discovery of the not-so-secret world of Red Dwarf USA being so widely out in the open at such an early stage, but it’s gotten to the point where even I’m a bit gobsmacked by how detailed it all is, and I already knew it was there. Additional – I didn’t read Rimmer’s Diary, because it looked shit, but the artwork was nice.
I hadn’t seen Series II yet, and had no reference point for the strip other than Kryten was a robot and these are robots, but he isn’t in it, and it’s a parody of Neighbours and Home and Away I can relate. For me, it was mostly the later ‘Cred Dwarf’ strip that seemed like random shite, but turned out to be highly specific Back to Reality references. And some of the novel-universe stuff that I didn’t really connect until the DwarfCast Book Club, even though I’d read them several times. I didn’t read Rimmer’s Diary, because it looked shit, but the artwork was nice. I can relate.
Things like smelling the car drawings, and Cat himself being obsessed with the mirror weren’t things they ever went back to in the show, I think they did actually go back to one of those.
If this was the one where you talked about Ecco, Ristar had my favourite underwater level as a kid. I liked splashing around in the sunny shallows, but didn’t like it so much when you had to plunge to the dark depths. Labyrinth was always my favourite Sonic 1 zone too, so my opinions may not be reliable.
Earthworm Jim had a good underwater level too. That bloody glass submarine is probably the tensest experience of my life.
I had to use the ‘slow mo’ switch (basically it spammed pause automatically) on my 3rd party controller to get through that fucking nightmare.
I had to use the ‘slow mo’ switch (basically it spammed pause automatically) on my 3rd party controller to get through that fucking nightmare. Was it this one? I used the Turbo/Auto button settings on SFII all the time.
I used the Turbo/Auto button settings on SFII all the time. It was a glorious day in my house when I realised you could effectively make E. Honda invincible with this before my sister did.
Labyrinth was always my favourite Sonic 1 zone too, so my opinions may not be reliable. The fact that you would have been playing 50hz Sonic 1 makes me even angrier that you say this. Put up your dukes!
