DwarfCast 171 – Re-Disc-overy: Series VI DwarfCasts Posted by Jonathan Capps on 28th April 2024, 14:51 Subscribe to DwarfCasts: RSS • iTunes “Nic Farey is why we have to take off our shoes in airports” Even by the standards of the Red Dwarf DVDs, the series VI set was special and probably represents the arguable pinnacle of the original set of releases. As such, Cappsy, Danny and Ian had a marvellous time reliving an absolutely packed release of musical insight, more SFX behind the scenes goodies, plus a very amusing and previously unknown tale regarding Craig and horses! DwarfCast 171 – Re-Disc-overy: Series VI (125 MB) Show notes Ian’s review Cappsy’s review Sonic The Hedgehog music theory Howard Goodall: How Music Works Howard’s 30th anniversary song Laredo’s website, with lots of up-to-date pictures and links to things that have been filmed there Lionel Blair rides bareback before facing down a load of cowboys wanting to unload on him. Bee Gees vs Chaka Khan
Lovely listening as per! I can’t believe I’ve watched The Starbuggers multiple times and hadn’t committed that hidden-in-plain-sight factoid about the Series VI opening to my long term memory. Always great to hear the deserved praise for Howard Goodall, and it was a good opportunity to hear his 30th anniversary song. It really stings that before and after that message was recorded were a sandwich of snubs – first his (new) music not being used for Series XII, and then him not being asked back at all for The Promised Land. I will hold out hope that GNP make good and get him back next time, up to the moment it’s confirmed that they haven’t. Considering your past sour grapes over officially released fan commentaries, I was going to suggest they could get the three of you to record an official fan commentary for Red Dwarf Outing XIV – The 14th Outing, but then I realised they probably wouldn’t let you include a 40 minute long Wafflemen segment.
I realised they probably wouldn’t let you include a 40 minute long Wafflemen segment. Our terms are non-negotiable.
I got the BTL issue with the separate A4 spoiler sheet so I was expecting the ending to Present From The Future that I’d read and was completely blown away on broadcast. My jaw was on the floor for at least 24 hours. Also when I got the DVD I watched the deleted scenes with my flatmate and he laughed at ‘I sobbed like a child for three days’ as hard as I ever heard him laugh.
I’d forgotten there was quite so much good stuff on the VI DVD. Brilliant to see that tantalising behind the scenes footage from Psirens again. If only we’d gotten that making of video. One thing I do remember clearly is being very pleasantly taken aback by the “lor, lare, lor, lare, ching! Ching! Ching!” smeg up. It was the first time I’d seen it because, as I later found out, I had the version of the Smeg Ups video that bit was cut from along with the competition. Cracking DwarfCast. Best Red Dwarf music for a funeral has to be the Blue Danube variation on the main theme from Confidence & Paranoia.
This was the last one I bought, and I don’t feel the same affection looking at it as the previous ones. Partly because I’d moved out of the family home to university, and had more going on in my life than just telly and Diablo II now, partly the realisation on reaching the end of the bubble journey that my childhood fave VI was a bit flawed after all, partly the stupid saloon cover. I still watched it quite a lot, but not as much as the I-Vs.
I enjoyed revisiting this one. I’ve very rarely rewatched many of the features on these DVDs, so stuff like the deleted scenes always feels very fresh to me still, and relatively undiscussed as part of Red Dwarf lore. Highlights here included the discussion of the warped reverse logic of the police-probe (the reversals and negative/opposite outcomes reminds me a little of the first half of Skipper), the Ace Rimmer moment where he reveals he couldn’t actually go through with killing Dibbley, and the exchange between Rimmer and Kryten before they go into Deep Sleep.
Never knew about this leaked episode insert in a smegazine. Fascinating. VI was rushed to finish but then broadcast dates moved to the autumn by quite a few months. Pirens got released in script book before broadcast as a result of these dates changing. Could the smegazine insert either have been too desperate to compete with the script book leak but go further, or was it meant to arrive in the magazine similar times to be read along with the series release rather than months before?
Better than life. Sorry. Misheard the magazine it was in. Better than life makes far more sense that a fan ran away with the obsession of too much info too soon.
The kryten on a horse seems so obvious and I had never worked that out either. Was there any scenes they did fail to complete in such a packed day shoot.
Never knew about this leaked episode insert in a smegazine. Fascinating. Same. I know spoiler culture was a bit different back then (and a small-audience leak like this wouldn’t get out to the general public as quickly/easily as it would today) but even so it feels like a massively dickheady thing to do to the people involved in the show.
The kryten on a horse seems so obvious and I had never worked that out either. Yep. Never even thought about it. Makes for a great shot though.
This was the last one I bought, and I don’t feel the same affection looking at it as the previous ones. Partly because I’d moved out of the family home to university, and had more going on in my life than just telly and Diablo II now, partly the realisation on reaching the end of the bubble journey that my childhood fave VI was a bit flawed after all, partly the stupid saloon cover. I still watched it quite a lot, but not as much as the I-Vs. How very dare you! It probably is a bit flawed in all honesty, but VI always gets a boost from me as it was the first series I watched go out in its entirety. I still maintain that pound for pound it’s the funniest series as well. Halfway through the DwarfCast as of writing, great stuff as always. I was thinking of the Miyamoto quote as you guys were discussing the nature of delays etc. so was pleased when it got a reference. I believe the commonly accepted version is “A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad” although I think there’s plenty of debate as to whether Miyamoto ever actually said it. The Howard Goodall music feature is definitely one of the best they did, the guy is just so easy to listen to and always has something interesting to share. Sadly he ruins the whole thing by saying that Series VII is one of the best at the end so he’s dead to me now
It might be that the mama told me not to come song, being used over drug crazed scenes in the film Fear and Loathing in las vegas, made the editor think of doing something similar in this “sick” featurette. tenuous best guess.
I believe the commonly accepted version is “A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad” although I think there’s plenty of debate as to whether Miyamoto ever actually said it. It’s not even really a debate at this point – he didn’t say it. https://www.acriticalhit.com/solved-miyamoto-quote-late-game-bad-forever/ It’s a good sentiment, though.
It really stings that before and after that message was recorded were a sandwich of snubs – first his (new) music not being used for Series XII, and then him not being asked back at all for The Promised Land. I will hold out hope that GNP make good and get him back next time, up to the moment it’s confirmed that they haven’t. Is it actually a known fact that Howard wasn’t asked back for The Promised Land? I kinda assumed it was his decision not to come back after how poorly his music was treated.
Lovely stuff. It’s only listening to that that I realised the saloon interior in Gunmen was a set and not actually in Laredo. As you say, it’s so well done. Rimmer and Kryten’s exchange before deep sleep is up there with the little Holoship cuts for me in terms of most sadly cut stuff, an absolutely cracking joke.
Great podcast guys, does anyone know where I can find the menu music for the DVD? I don’t remember it being in any episode. It sounds like a cover of the ending credits theme for Blade Runner.
Great podcast guys, does anyone know where I can find the menu music for the DVD? I don’t remember it being in any episode. It sounds like a cover of the ending credits theme for Blade Runner. Is it in the additional cues here? https://youtu.be/YhvzdxXiyOc
Great podcast guys, does anyone know where I can find the menu music for the DVD? I don’t remember it being in any episode. It sounds like a cover of the ending credits theme for Blade Runner. Is it in the additional cues here? https://youtu.be/YhvzdxXiyOc Found it thank you!
Someone with talent make an atmospheric Red Dwarf Music & Ambience YouTube playlist running to multiple hours, please.
VLC ripped a third of the music cues, all glitchy, and then nothing else. If anyone wants to furnish me with some rips of the various series scores as well as the Bodysnatcher menu loops with the background craft drones I’d love to make a long Red Dwarf ambient mix. Actually, no, I really want to do it now. Gimme dem files.
Well, this ended up turning out rather different to how I intended, but who cares. Here’s 107 minutes of Red Dwarf music and sound effects mixed into a kind of soundscapey thing.
Might be difficult, there’s some overlap and a lot of tracks in there. Depends what’s in your will. (If I get a spare couple of hours I’ll see what I can do). I’m also thinking of doing a deep ambient version, no big orchestral bits or drums or anything, just a couple of hours of Red Dwarf drift.
I’d like to claim I’m that clever but they’re actually just me being inspired by FSOL, The Orb and other ’90s ambient types as I always am in everything musical that I do. Deep Space ambient version incoming.
Right, here’s the Deep Space Version, this is much more overtly ambient, no rhythms or orchestral bombast, plus some X and XI material in there, in case anyone wants something less intrusive. Also features timestamps for Moonlight.
Amazingly eerie. I’m a fan of cosmic horror, so I don’t know how this movie passed me by, will check it out!
The episode with the famous “changing the bulb from blue to red” gag is also the episode where Rimmer’s uniform changes from red to blue to indicate his upgrade to hard-light status. Does this mean anything? No. But it’s a mildly remarkable coincidence. Seeing the alternative pre-audience take of the simulant scene in “Gunmen” makes me even more curious to get a complete run-down of the “Gunmen” and “Rimmerworld” filming order, and why that meant Cat needed to wear the same clothing in both episodes.
