Home Forums Ganymede & Titan Forum Blue Midget dance = blatent clue to hallucination

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  • #6080
    Tonguetied
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    I’ve been watching a lot of VIII lately, and words just cannot describe hot much I hate the Blue Midget dance! How on Earth can the fact that several ship to site transport vessels can actually copy a man’s coordination, the only thing I think explains it away is the fact that the whole scenario is part of a hallucination sequence. It was Cat’s fantasy taking hold, but how do you explain the fact that Kryten or co didn’t figure out then and there that the whole thing was fake? It took the editing by Rimmer to make Kryten doubt.

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  • #106727
    Matt Damon
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    Matt Damon

    #106728
    Tonguetied
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    It’s just something I never understood about that episode, is Blue Midget entirely capable of being programmed to follow human postures or is it just due to the induced mind state?

    #106724
    Carlito
    Participant

    The horror.

    The horror.

    #106730
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    >is Blue Midget entirely capable of being programmed to follow human postures or is it just due to the induced mind state?

    The third one.

    #106729
    Tonguetied
    Participant

    Yeah your avatar is quite scary, although horror isn’t the word I would use, maybe potato perhaps? Sorry, sorry edit, make that inside out potato.

    #106731
    Tonguetied
    Participant

    P.S. Could I get a logical response to the question and not some stoned manic sugar daddy’s idea of a wind up? Or is that too much to ask? I’m trying to create a nice little topic here about something I noticed in the episode, so could we have a debate on Red Dwarf and not silliness? This is after all meant to be the most prestigious Red Dwarf related forum on the net. I thought I could get some incite from fellow Dwarf aficionados.

    #106732
    JamesTC
    Participant

    >How on Earth can the fact that several ship to site transport vessels can actually copy a man?s coordination

    They couldn’t in Series 1-VII because of all the JMC cut backs but when the nano bots recreated the ship it made Blue Midget more sophisticated, including an improved movement and sensors meaning it can “dance”.

    #106733
    Tonguetied
    Participant

    >They couldn?t in Series 1-VII because of all the JMC cut backs but when the nano bots recreated the ship it made Blue Midget more sophisticated, including an improved movement and sensors meaning it can ?dance?.

    That’s an interesting theory.

    #106734
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Ahhh, Tonguetied’s back.

    #106735
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    YES, WE’VE GOT A VIDEO.

    #106737
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    >Could I get a logical response to the question and not some stoned manic sugar daddy?s idea of a wind up?

    Would it help you enjoy the dance if you could find a logical reason for it?

    Next up on G+T: Testicular Cancer – what’s the point of it?

    #106738
    redhead85
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    Brummie accent ” Well it’s a blatant clue, innit? Blatant!” /Brummie accent

    #106739
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Ooh, I have a Red Dwarf question. How come Kochanski and Lister never dated in Series I and II, but in Series III they used to date? And how come she looks different when she’s a main character?

    #106740
    JamesTC
    Participant

    >Ooh, I have a Red Dwarf question. How come Kochanski and Lister never dated in Series I and II, but in Series III they used to date? And how come she looks different when she?s a main character?

    Talkie Toaster went back in time and changed the past.

    #106741
    Matt Damon
    Participant

    .

    Matt Damon

    #106742
    Dave
    Participant

    >I thought I could get some incite from fellow Dwarf aficionados.

    Incorrect and yet accurate.

    #106744
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    I nominate this thread for hall of fame status.

    #106746
    Tonguetied
    Participant

    Why all the wise cracks, this topic is based on something that has always pestered me about Back in the Red part 3 and all you can do is mock? It’s a very sensible question regarding the episode and yet no ‘Dwarfer’ here is interested in giving a logical response. You shouldn’t always parade on my topics considering I am asking honest questions. If I can’t rely on proper answers on a Red Dwarf forum then it’s a sad day.

    #106747
    peas_and_corn
    Participant

    You have clearly made up your mind. Answering the question would be immaterial to you since you have already convinced yourself of this reason of yours.

    #106757
    p2p_productions
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    The Blue Midget Mk II ‘Walker’ Class STSV has an on-board sensor array capable of 1:1 replication of any visually-identified ambulatory form. The Navi-Comp converts the raw sensor data into vector points, and then relays them to the hydraulic servos with virtually no lag time.

    This enables large fleets of Blue Midgets to traverse irregular terrain with just a single lead vessel, thereby reducing the need for each ship to make complex course corrections, and shortening both mission time and booster fuel usage dramatically.

    …Or something.

    #106758
    Carlito
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    Yeah, and the Cat learned to make it dance during the period between crashing and being arrested. He snuck off for a while there, but we didn’t get to see it because that would have been a SPOILER for the hilarious scene that was about to unfold in part 3.

    #106760
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    The Blue Midget Mk II ?Walker? Class STSV has an on-board sensor array capable of 1:1 replication of any visually-identified ambulatory form.

    So, like Project Natal?

    #106761
    p2p_productions
    Participant

    >So, like Project Natal?

    Navi Comp? – brought to you by Microsoft.

    #106763
    hummingbird
    Participant

    It has a 6 in it …. etc, etc

    #106765
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    A wizard did it.

    #106771

    Oooh have we got a video?

    #106779
    Gwynnie
    Participant

    I think the real answer here is… Doug thought it would be funny. Or “because series VIII was shit”… ;)
    But seriously. It was a hallucination. Just like everything that happened in Back to Reality… Back to Earth… Better than Life… I’m sure you can think of more.

    #106781
    Andrew
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    Regardless of how the sequence went down, I’m not sure the idea that mechanical devices can be programmed to make a series of specific movements is especially unrealistic…

    #106783

    But it gets pissed with the Cat and kicks him. That bit bugs me alot because Blue Midget shouldn’t have feelings, should it?

    #106785
    JamesTC
    Participant

    >But it gets pissed with the Cat and kicks him. That bit bugs me alot because Blue Midget shouldn?t have feelings, should it?

    It was replicating what Cat did shortly before to the teeth.

    #106787

    Oh yeah! To be fair I haven’t watched series VIII in a loooooooooooooooooooooong time. It’s literally been years.

    #106790
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Knowing he’d have twins, and knowing that babies shouldn’t be kept around pets, Rimmer had the Cat exiled to the lower decks during Lister’s pregnancy. While there, he taught himself how to pilot Starbug and Blue Midget. He was considering leaving the ship entirely but instead he went to sleep.

    This also explains an increased animosity between the Cat and Rimmer in series III onwards, and why he really doesn’t care that Rimmer has disappeared in “Backwards”.

    #106795
    p2p_productions
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    >How come Kochanski and Lister never dated in Series I and II, but in Series III they used to date? And how come she looks different when she?s a main character?

    Ben, don’t you remember that great Series IX episode, ‘Revenge Of The Inquisitor’?

    Centuries before his final Series V confrontation with Lister, the original Inquisitor created a time clone of himself in the event that his ‘glorious work’ might one day be undone.

    After being reactivated following his ‘father’s’ death, Inquisitor Jr. erased the original Kochanski and replaced her with a new uptight version as payback. He also changed the timeline so that when Lister first discovered that she had died, he was even more heartbroken as they had now dated in the past.

    Always thought it was such a great move that they managed to get De Niro in to play Inquizzy Jr…

    #106804
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    “Robert de Niro’s waiting
    talking italian.” – Bananaramadam

    #106807
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    “I see dead people”

    Cole Sear – Sixth Sense, Dir: M Night Shamyalnalamnamlnamlnaammnlamnan.

    #106809
    Carlito
    Participant

    It’s M. Night Showaddywaddy. Duh!

    #106814
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    “Hi name is Bobby, (ooh-ooh)
    Bobby DeNiro (ooh-ah)
    He’s a luverlee persuane, (ooh-ooh)
    And a vely good actor. (ooh-ahh)”

    Richard Dean Anderson, Stargate SG-1 episode 216 – “A Matter of Time”

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