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    betelgeuse
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    I’ve heard many a mention to Norm’s apparent burning of bridges with the dwarf lads, and then on the recent dwarcast they mentioned that hattie would be more favorable as a return to the holly role because of several things Norman had done.

    But can somebody tell what he’s done and said? was he critical of series 7 and 8? did he have a row with fellow dwarf actors? bitter that he left dwarf so early on in the day?
    It’s just that i listen to the cast commentaries and norm moans a tad but there doesnt seem to be any sign of tension???

    #111773
    Phil
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    Just read his autobiography.

    #111774
    Jonsmad
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    Watch the back to earth making off for comments about Norman deciding not to be on Red Dwarf ever again, and Dougs side of why he couldnt confirm Norman as part of that show, at the point in time when Norman was making demands. And then imagine Norman ranting about being messed around and saying “never” and saying he would write a tell all book, and other such rants.

    #111777
    Pete Part Three
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    And then watch the Red Dwarf II doc on The Bodysnatcher Collection and you’ll realise that he makes a habit of being an unreasonable twat.

    #111778
    Seb Patrick
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    Doug’s story (as relayed on the BtE commentary) is that they wanted to have Holly (played by Norm) in BtE, but the matter was very much dependent on whether or not they had the budget to do three episodes rather than two (he couldn’t really fit Holly into things if there were only two). This question was drawn out over some time, as BtE was made on a threadbare budget and it was unclear for a long time exactly what they could and couldn’t afford to do. At some point, Norm rang Doug/GNP and said that he needed to know one way or the other whether they were using him, and they had until the end of that day to give a definite answer because otherwise he was going to take another job. At that point they still couldn’t confirm whether it was two episodes or three… so Norm decided to take the other job. Then, of course, it turned out afterwards that they probably could have accommodated him, but it was too late.

    Norm’s story is that he was told he was definitely going to be in it, given dates to put in his diary, and then after a long period of stringing him along, he got “a pathetic little email” telling him he wasn’t in it after all.

    It’s really up to you which of the two stories you believe; although I think it’s quite telling about the two men that while Doug has continually (and as recently as this last weekend) said that he’d be happy to have Norman back if he was willing to come back, Norm has spent his time penning spite-filled invectives about the affair on Myspace and on Certain Red Dwarf Fansites (Ahem), and saying he’ll “never have anything to do with Red Dwarf again”. Unless it involves using it to sell tickets to his stand-up shows.

    #111782
    Alex
    Participant

    Just read his autobiography.

    I hear it’s a cracker:

    I hindsight, I can’t help but wonder if it was this picture that really pissed him off…

    #111868
    Tanya Jones
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    Ah, excellent.

    #111870
    betelgeuse
    Participant

    can someone link me to these posts norman has made saying he wont do RD again?

    #111872
    Jo
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    It was on his MySpace account – not sure if that’s there any more but it was talked about in this thread: http://www.ganymede.tv/forum/2009/01/norms-post-dwarf-tell-all

    …and this one goes back a little further since you’re interested: http://www.ganymede.tv/atspeed/2009/01/no-rman-lovett

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