….Comedian found GUILTY of causing offence!

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

It’s hard to find links of this because the main stream media are a bunch of weak, pathetic, controlled cunts.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/youtuber-count-dankula-found-guilty-of-hate-crime-for-teaching-pet-pug-nazi-salute-a3794926.html

Johnathan Pie sums it up perfectly imo.

He is so right about the lack of comedians and artists not saying anything?! What about Charlie Brooker? After all he dines out on this shit with Black Mirror! Doesn’t anybody have a spine anymore?

No wonder good comedy is a rarity these days in case they upset some bed-wetter.

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[Ridley]

I think the joke was done better in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[Dave]

I think the joke was done better in ‘Allo’ Allo.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

“I wonder what Panthro thinks.”

I’d love to see a He-Man and Red Dwarf cross over. I wonder what Hans “Dolph” Lundgren thinks?

[Flap Jack]

OK, there are a couple of things to keep in mind about this:

1. Free speech is not an unlimited right. It ends when you use it to infringe upon the rights of others. So if your speech does incite violence, promote bigotry etc., then “it was just a joke” is not a defence. Now, this is obviously a very ambiguous case, so it’s not necessarily absurd to consider the charges unjustified, but you can’t just play “FREE SPEECH THO” as a universal trump card.
2. As Pete said, the video is not making fun of Nazis, it’s trivialising Nazi behaviour. That’s probably what shifted it into being suspect.
3. Anyone who makes terrible jokes on the internet should definitely do at least a few months of hard time. I include myself in that.

[John Hoare]

I have just read some more of this thread and I can’t say I enjoyed it.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

I wonder what Twilight Sparkle thinks?

[Ben Saunders]

….Admin found GUILTY of not enjoying thread!

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

If you feel personally offended the police are willing to investigate it…AS A CRIME! @metpoliceuk come on then! I’ll DM you my address. pic.twitter.com/xBuZNciays

— Jonathan Pie (@JonathanPieNews) March 27, 2018

[Plastic Percy]

Oh look, the point where I finally find something I disagree with Jonathan Pie over.

[Warbodog]

Helpful explanation of how 4chan pricks think and play, if you’re naive like me:

https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/online-right-launder-ideology/

I’m more offended by that URL that counts a 1000-word article as a ‘long read.’ It’s the end of civilisation.

[Hamish]

> Oh look, the point where I finally find something I disagree with Jonathan Pie over.

His last few videos have been shite, to be honest.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

Jonathan Humble Pie?

[Ben Saunders]

Jonathan Eggonhisface

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

This looks suspiciously like a Nazi salute. Please prosecute @policescotland https://t.co/4p0dMOvtwB

— Rita Panahi (@RitaPanahi) March 21, 2018

https://twitter.com/LukeUghtred/status/976587618413559809

And what about this little hooligan? pic.twitter.com/XRzOrRIymj

— Ted (@IBoyd1966) March 22, 2018

:D

[Warbodog]

Jonathan Pie with ‘Jonathan in the Sky’

[Dave]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-43864133

An £800 fine. Seems pretty reasonable.

It’s interesting to see him sticking to the defence that people can “say things and their context [can] be completely ignored and then they can be convicted for it”. Because the sheriff addresses the context quite explicitly:

“A joke can be grossly offensive. A racist joke or a grossly offensive video does not lose its racist or grossly offensive quality merely because the maker asserts he only wanted to get a laugh.”

It’s a shame he’s become such a ‘free speech’ beacon for comedians like Gervais to rally around.

[Ben Saunders]

Oh not this again. I had to leave a discord server because I was sick of reading about this shit. Defenses of it, mostly.

Good quote from the popo though. I blocked Gervais on Twitter years ago. Now he can say all the shite he likes and it won’t bother me

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

“A joke can be grossly offensive. A racist joke or a grossly offensive video does not lose its racist or grossly offensive quality merely because the maker asserts he only wanted to get a laugh.”

Of course, Voter Colonel.

* still 800 quid towards the security of the royal wedding eh?

[Ben Paddon]

“It was only a joke!” is a bullshit argument, and fuck anyone who thinks that makes it okay to say racist, sexist, homophobic or otherwise offensive nonsense.

[Plastic Percy]

Freedom of Speech does not mean carte blanche to say whatever you like, to whoever you like, whenever you like. Never has, never will. This fat hipster fuck deserves everything he gets. Shame the one thing he desperately needs, namely an education, won’t be on that list.

[Hamish]

So after all that noise, in the end he gets a fine which is less than my brother probably spent on speeding tickets in the past year.

[Ben Paddon]

We are guaranteed freedom of speech. We are not guaranteed freedom from the consequence of that speech.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

Wow how many account do you have? Yikes.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

“We are guaranteed freedom of speech. We are not guaranteed freedom from the consequence of that speech.”

Offence is subjective even so.

Some were offended, some found it funny whilst others couldn’t give a shit either way.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

“So after all that noise, in the end he gets a fine which is less than my brother probably spent on speeding tickets in the past year.”

I assume this was a joke but if it wasn’t I’d say your brother speeding and endangering life is much worst than that video.

[cwickham]

so coming up with more puns based on how a word in a Red Dwarf episode title vaguely sounds like something else seems like a pretty great idea right now, doesn’t it

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

Gervais hates puns if that helps.

[Dave]

“I wish I’d never brought this up now.”

[Pete Part Three]

Oh fuck off, you cunt.

[Pete Part Three]

That was joke, the way.

Honest.

[Hamish]

> I assume this was a joke but if it wasn’t I’d say your brother speeding and endangering life is much worst than that video.

I don’t defend his bullshit, just as I don’t defend this twerps.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

> I don’t defend his bullshit, just as I don’t defend this twerps.

I’m not defending him I’m just saying he should have never been convicted. If he wants to make stupid videos such as this it’s up to him and at most for youtube to deal with him if need be. It’s a dangerous road to go down when offense itself is subjective. He wasn’t inciting hatred any fucking idiot can see that.

[Ben Saunders]

Call me when he’s found guilty of causing a laugh

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

[Ben Paddon]

I’m starting to think RamesesNiblickTheThird is some kind of rogue AI.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

No he’s just a sad case.

[Ben Saunders]

I wonder what happened to the first two

[Ben Paddon]

The third entry in a trilogy is almost always the weakest, isn’t it?

[Moonlight]

Y’all having fun over there in Europe?

[Ben Saunders]

Not really

[Moonlight]

That’s a shame. If you want to pop over to America for a barbecue, we have a warmer climate. I’ll bring the Moxie.

[Hamish]

Speak for yourself Yankee.

[Moonlight]

Hang a rain cloud over your head, lobsterback.

[Hamish]

Learn a new word everyday.

[Moonlight]

“Everyday” isn’t a word.

[Hamish]

It is a word, but it is an adjective, so I used it wrong apparently.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

anyone want to try this with a skutter? there will be a bag of chips in it for ya!

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