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  • #301607
    thomasaevans
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    Apologies if this has been posted/discussed but couldn’t see it anywhere. 

    The author of ‘The Making of Red Dwarf’ book from ’94 has published a new book this year:

    “In the winter of 1993, American journalist Joe Nazzaro was commissioned by the producers of Red Dwarf to write a behind-the-scenes making-of book about the cult sci-fi comedy series. For nearly two months, Nazzaro was given unprecedented access to the production, from the very first day of location filming to the final audience recording. During that time, he kept meticulous notes on virtually every aspect of the shoot. Sadly, much of that material was ultimately cut from the book’s final draft and has never seen the light of day- until now, that is. Comedy, Chaos and Cowboys! tells the real story of Red Dwarf, from last-minute changes to deleted scenes, as well as more than a few R-rated outtakes. There are also extensive interviews with principal cast and crew members, guest stars and a day-by-day filming diary.”

    #301608
    Podey
    Participant

    I’m interested in that book but that publisher really needs a better cover designer. 

    #301609
    Dave
    Participant

    Hmmm, this could be an interesting read. First I’ve heard of it.

    #301611
    GlenTokyo
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    I’m interested in that book but that publisher really needs a better cover designer. 

    It has “cover of a VHS tape of steam trains going through a train station in the Midlands that you had to order from a man called Neville with a geocities website” vibes.

    #301618
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    Bloody hell, how did we miss this? Tom Salinsky has much better PR.

    #301619
    Warbodog
    Participant

    I only got the original 90s book fairly recently and thought it was good enough already, with lots of nice, moody VI pics. Hoping Nazzaro has a Piggate-level revelation about someone in the cast or crew to boost the show’s profile in 2025.

    #301621
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    Thanks Tom, :-)  That’s my Christmas money spent. 

    So his original book was behind the scenes of VI right?  So this is like the deleted scenes of stuff compiled for that book. Joyous start to the Dwarf year that. look forward to reading it.  Thanks again for the link. 

    #301622
    Dave
    Participant

    Yeah, the original book was this one (which is mainly focused on Gunmen specifically).

    I haven’t read it in years but I remember it having a lot of photos but being fairly light in terms of deep detail, so maybe this new book will redress the balance. I’ve ordered it so we’ll see.

    #301623
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Slightly-misleading double whammy with the old book looking like it’s titled The Making of Red Dwarf: Last Chance Saloon and that those characters are the Four Apocalypse Boys. It’s cool how they made Cat’s legs into a 3D stand though.

    #301624
    Dave
    Participant

    It’s cool how they made Cat’s legs into a 3D stand though.

    That was actually part of the early prototype work for Booky, an AI tool to assist Making-Of writers.

    #301625
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    Ah, the old cut out a publicity shot and put it on a blue background school of mid-90s Red Dwarf book covers.

    Or sometimes don’t even bother with the photo.

    #301628

    It’s cool how they made Cat’s legs into a 3D stand though.

    #301630

    It sounds more like the title about a sitcom set in the wild west tbh.

    #301631
    Ridley
    Participant

    Do you like that one? Gunmen?

    #301633
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I must apologise to Tom Salinsky for being at all negative about his book’s cover. I had no idea.

    #301636

    Okay but can we just take a moment to appreciate that the photographer openly trades under the name Nobby?

    #301643
    Dave
    Participant

    Okay but can we just take a moment to appreciate that the photographer openly trades under the name Nobby?

    #301647
    Warbodog
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    #301648
    cwickham
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    #301651
    Dave
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    #301652
    Dave
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    #301653
    clem
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    #301655

    Ahhh, I love this forum so much.

    #301656
    thomasaevans
    Participant

    Well! I’m delighted to take up my new position as head of PR for Joe, i’ve just increased his sales by 212%. Marvellous.

    #301657
    Warbodog
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    #301658

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobby_Clark_(photographer)

    In 2005 he was production photographer for the 7th series of cult UK television comedy Red Dwarf.[5]

    Someone needs to update that

    Interestingly though, there’s a Nobby Clark who worked as a technical advisor on London’s Burning.  Which really confused me when all the Nobby Clark memes started.  Unfortunately not the same person as the photographer

    https://londons-burning.fandom.com/wiki/Brian_Clark 

    #301660
    Rudolph
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    #301661
    Podey
    Participant

    This has all reminded me of a news story from the 2000s (can’t find it, sadly) about a bloke who got so over excited after Nolberto “Nobby” Solano scored for Newcastle that he pulled his trousers and pants down and ran around the house pointing at his knob and shouting “NOBBY!!! NOBBY!!” to such an extent that his wife called the police on him.

    #301663
    Moonlight
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    #301664
    Dave
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    #301666
    Moonlight
    Participant

    I specifically scrolled up to check what had already been posted and that is the only one I missed.

    #301669
    Unrumble
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    #301670
    Unrumble
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    #301671
    Technopeasant
    Participant

    Ahhh, I love this forum so much

    #301672
    Nick R
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    #301675
    Dave
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    #301678
    Warbodog
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    #301785
    thomasaevans
    Participant

    Post’s arrived. A book is a thing of beauty. The voice of freedom. It’s the essence of civilisation. It’s fucking freezing here tonight so I might need to burn it. 

    #301788
    Technopeasant
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    #301796
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    I’m really enjoying the book. Re-reading the old book as well alongside it.  It starts by referencing the film “Almost Famous” which I love too, about a young writer wanting freedom in their writing style. 


    It’s great to read this extensively about series VI in 2025. I do think I understand why Rob & Doug would have wanted a making of book to be edited down from this longer notes & interviews presented here. It’s too long and dull for a more general audience so they were aiming for a more glossy concise coffee table book of the times, rather than a beat by beat account of hanging around all of series VI. I’ve not found any huge controversy in it yet, but there are a few small comments they might have wanted to protect people from at a time when they were still actively making dwarf. We know from some of the DVD documentaries that Doug at least never shied away from more controversial topics about troubles in making of’s. At this distance of time, after the first published book was a sucess, it’s a wonderful double deeper dip.  I find myself reading short interviews with Clare CP Grogan and Anita Dobson. and im transported to the set because my imagination knows what all these deleted and behind the scenes moments look like from the DVD extras world etc. So as a result im imagining new takes, Smeg ups and on set tom foolery as if im there. 

    It is amusing that the writer seems to spot things fans might have said, about rimmers costume or the appendix etc.

    SPOILERS:  From the writers Interview.  Talk of an episode idea about parasites, I wonder if this went into Epideme? and mind editing – sounds very like they could have written eternal sunshine of the spotless mind a decade earlier as a sitcom, but then they kind of had done in thanks for the memory in a different way before. 





    #301798
    Dave
    Participant

    and mind editing – sounds very like they could have written eternal sunshine of the spotless mind a decade earlier as a sitcom, but then they kind of had done in thanks for the memory in a different way before. 

    The mind editing stuff also crops up in the Events & Moments script that was performed as (the first?) one of the Lockdown Theatre performances.

    #301890
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    Got this now. Spotted a factual error in the first clause of the first sentence of the back cover blurb.

    #301891
    Dave
    Participant

    Got this now. Spotted a factual error in the first clause of the first sentence of the back cover blurb.

    Luckily it’s absolutely the only error in the whole of the book.

    #301895

    #301943
    Asclepius
    Participant

    Post’s arrived. A book is a thing of beauty. The voice of freedom. It’s the essence of civilisation. It’s fucking freezing here tonight so I might need to burn it. 

    The words on the back cover are blurry. Also, the book is bent across the back middle in a sort of arc shape.

    You would do right to burn it.

    #301944
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    I think you’ve got a dodgy print, mine is fine on those counts.

    #301953
    Asclepius
    Participant

    I think you’ve got a dodgy print, mine is fine on those counts.

    My apologies, Sir. I had engaged humor mode.

    (I was referring to the quality of the photo thomasevans had taken of his book).

    #302127
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    Page 119 quotes Rob on the set of Emohawk joking to Craig that there will be. Lister-Rimmer kiss in episode six of VI.

    So… Rob wrote a bit of Blue for VII. Sort of. 

    We can poke a tiny bit more scorn at those people who post “Rob was the funny one” when they watch and didn’t like VII. 

    #302137
    Moonlight
    Participant

    Rob was the funny one if you find genital mutilation hilarious.

    #302144
    Unrumble
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