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  • #4807
    cheesegirl1986
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    Having been a, ahem, casual fan of Red Dwarf since the early 90s I’ve obviously heard a lot about Craig Charles’ legal problems, but since having become a wee bit more obsessive in the past couple of months I’ve been looking around more Red Dwarf sites and have noticed a distinct lack of love for the bloke in other ways i.e just about his general personality, particularly on this website. Not so much the message board, as I haven’t really looked yet, but from the articles, reviews etc. Always thought he sounded nice and friendly enough, if a bit grating sometimes, so wondered if he’d been rampantly slagging off fans or anything?
    apologies if this is a stupid/frequently asked question

    #103597
    si
    Participant

    He’s no Norman Lovett.

    I can, of course, only speak for myself, but it seems to me that there was a time a few years ago where he kind of put himself above the fans, conveniently forgetting where he’d got the fame and the wealth from. Then the crack stuff kicked in, and the past few years he’s been a little more humble.

    Ian and co will probably give you a much more wordier, well educated essay on this subject.

    #103600

    He’s a Scouser. What other reason do you need?

    #103601
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    I prefer Peter Unlove.

    I used to find Craig arrogant and disliked his attitude to the fans. But that all changed at DJ in 2006, when he was absolutely lovely in his honest and emotional Q&A session. Since then he’s been nothing but excellent, and his acting in BTE was superb. I now love Craig again.

    #103602
    si
    Participant

    Ah, Peter Ndlovu. A wonderful Blade.

    #103639
    cheesegirl1986
    Participant

    Ahhh, ok, I more or less expected that kind of reason. I’ve definitely read a few interviews from around the late Nineties where he sounds pretty bloody arrogant I’ve got to admit. And having watched a fair amount of the DVD commentaries/interviews now, there are a few references to fans being anoraks etc, never really took that kind of stuff seriously though.
    I heard the convention in 2006 was the first one he’d been to in years, and in all the Back to Earth behind the scenes stuff he seemed very thoughtful. I suppose the crack business really must have gone a long way towards humbling him, maybe because it made him realise HE’D fucked up, as opposed to the wrongly accused rape case, which no doubt made him feel resentful about all sorts of things.
    Oops, I rambled slightly there with my uneducated psychoanalysis, but thanks for the info anyway, I was just curious about it.

    #103641

    People’s views on Craig vary but it’s often been negative, partly because shit sticks. I had a row with my dad (quite a deluded individual at the best of times…) a few years ago after my sister had met Craig in a club in Manchester, he said ‘oh you want to keep away from him, he’s a bloody rapist!’ or words to that effect.

    #103644
    Jo
    Participant

    I can only really echo what Ian said. I used to think he was a bit up himself after various digs and comments he made about RD fans. However since the whole crack thing he seems to have done a lot of growing up and appears to have embraced the RD fans. DJ 2006 was perhaps a turning point, I think he was genuinely touched at the great reception he got.

    I’ve only ever spoken to him in person for seconds in autograph sessions and for a few minutes when doing an interview for the first issue of Back to Reality, the fan club mag, but he was very friendly and patient with this first time interviewer!
    I only have good words to say about him :o)

    >People?s views on Craig vary but it?s often been negative, partly because shit >sticks. I had a row with my dad (quite a deluded >individual at the best of times?)
    >a few years ago after my sister had met Craig in a club in Manchester, he said ?oh
    >you want to keep away from him, he?s a bloody rapist!? or words to that effect.

    … but on the flip side is my Mum (also a big RD fan) who gets quite angry when people say things like that!

    #103665
    Prue
    Participant

    I, personally, thought he was fine – didn’t take much notice of the rape thing (got virtually no coverage in Australia anyway, so only read what was sent to me from the UK), but have to say that in some of the early docos on the dvd’s he sounded ‘displeased’ with RD fans.

    In the last few, and BTE, he seems to have recovered the faith in fans. Maybe he realized that they would always be there and supported him through all his ups and downs – quite a humbling experience I would think.

    Go Craig!

    #103678
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Also he’s been cited as saying that Sci-Fi fans are NOTHING compared to soap-obsessed fans. So we’re the lesser of two evils :)

    #103682

    As part of the Coronation Street cast he is automatically one of the most recognizable faces in the country.

    #103701
    Dave
    Participant

    >He?s a Scouser. What other reason do you need?

    This is just the sort unsubstantiated rumour that has dogged Craig all these years.

    Craig Charles is not now, nor has he ever been a user of Sco.

    #104392
    Gwynnie
    Participant

    I think anyone who was at the Q+A session this time will have found a new love for him. There was a slight jokey comment about having a life, but otherwise he was lovely, definitely made the weekend for me. But then you can’t trust my opinion because I had a massive Lister crush during my teenage years..

    #104395
    si
    Participant

    >I had a massive Lister crush during my teenage years..

    From Digital Spy:

    Oct 10, 2009
    Lister: ‘I won’t do lads’ mag shoots’

    Oh shucks.

    #104396
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    Craig was fantastic. He was also a lot smaller than I thought he would be….Now I’ve never seen him before, but are we sure this wasn’t a mini-clone!

    #104398
    TheLeen
    Participant

    Craig was fantastic.

    That is all.

    #104407
    Gwynnie
    Participant

    He WAS short! I wasn’t that surprised. He has shrunk in many respects.

    #104413
    hummingbird
    Participant

    I walked past Jake whatshisname (you know, alternate Lister from Inquisitor) a couple of weeks ago and he was only little, so I wasn’t surprised when I saw Craig.

    #104442
    cheesegirl1986
    Participant

    Jake Abrahams I believe his name is, in case anyone who didn’t know was remotely curious. I think he’s a friend of Craig Charles’ and has had drug problems as well, could be mistaken though. I’m so annoyed I’ve never been to a DJ, I really wanted to this year and I’d love the chance to meet Craig, Chris etc. I know plenty of people who like Red Dwarf but no-one who likes it enough to go with me I don’t think, wah :( It sounds like it was a good one too, I’ll have to live vicariously through the report they put on the main website. Pretty tragic.

    #105589
    Petetranterssister
    Participant

    Hiya,

    I had also heard negative things about Craig Charles so when i got the chance to meet him and Chris Barrie in 2007 i was so excited to meet Chris and didnt really expect much from Craig, how wrong i was!!

    Craig was absolutely lovely he spent a full 20 minutes talking to me and he was just how you would expect the guy who played Lister to be like, friendly, funny and witty and i was so pleasantly suprised!! In fact he turned out to be the better of the 2 as i found myself quite disappointed with chris barrie who seemed very quiet and frankly and bit boring. Hope im proved worng next time i meet him!

    xx

    #105593
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I think Craig’s Q&A at DJ XV was fantastic. He went out of his way to include the crowd and work the room. Even stopping to speak to the people too shy to stick thier hands in the air!
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    What a guy!

    #105701
    Gwynnie
    Participant

    And then he played the piano!

    #105708
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    …and then he did a jigsaw.

    #105725
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    Did a jigsaw? Like in the Saw movie franchise? He set a fiendishly fatal trap for somebody derserving of being fiendishly and fatally trapped?

    #105756
    Dave
    Participant

    Die Screaming With Sharp Things In your Head?

    #105759
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Bizarrely enough, that was a working title for “Saw”.

    #105801
    peas_and_corn
    Participant

    I believe they now have another 20 scripts for more Saw sequels ready to go.

    #105811
    Carlito
    Participant

    Plus one for that long awaited Saw/Final Destination/Scream crossover trilogy.

    #105817
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    I Saw What Your Final Destination Was Last Summer.

    #105821
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I Saw What Your Final Destination Was Last Of The Summer Wine.

    #105828
    Gwynnie
    Participant

    I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer

    #105835
    Nick R
    Participant

    I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer versus Jason

    #105836
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer versus Jason On A Plane

    #105839
    peas_and_corn
    Participant

    I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer versus Jason On A Plane Part 4789

    #105841
    Plastic Percy
    Participant

    I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer versus Jason On A Plane Part 4789 in London

    #105843
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer versus Jason On A Plane Part 4789 in London in Space

    #105844
    SkyAndSun
    Participant

    I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer versus Jason On A Plane Part 4789 in London in Space 2

    #105847
    Gwynnie
    Participant

    I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer versus Jason On A Plane Part 4789 in London in Space 2 OF DOOM

    #105851
    Andrew
    Participant

    Indiana Jones and the Case of How I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer versus Jason On A Plane Part 4789 in London in Space 2 OF DOOM

    (Oh, and the Saw movies are good. So ner.)

    #105854
    TheLeen
    Participant

    The Evil Dead Indiana Jones and the Case of How I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer versus Jason On A Plane Part 4789 in London in Space 2 OF DOOM

    #105855
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    Night of The Evil Dead Indiana Jones and the Case of How I Screamed When I Saw Your Final Destination Was Another Shitty Saw Movie Last Summer versus Jason On A Plane Part 4789 in London in Space 2 OF DOOM

    #105856
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >(Oh, and the Saw movies are good. So ner.)

    I do agree… but they got a bit too repetitive. To be fair, I haven’t seen beyond 3.

    #105858
    Gwynnie
    Participant

    To be fair, I haven’t seen any of them…

    #105859
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    1 was very good. 2 was surprisingly good. 3,4 and 5 are where I start getting muddled up and 6 looks more of the same. It should have ended by now.

    #105861
    Dave
    Participant

    When are they going to start calling them Seen?

    #105871
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Back before the first Saw was released I can remember tha there was a huge billboard that I would always pass on my way to work.

    One morning I woke up, took my usual route and noticed three giant letters in front of me.

    S A W

    For a moment my mind stopped dead to ponder what this could mean. My first thought was that someone had made a movie about Stock, Aitken and Waterman. I still haven’t got over the dissapointment when I realised it wasn’t the case.

    #105904
    Gwynnie
    Participant

    I love how your mind works.

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