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  • #3394
    SkyAndSun
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    Just to counteract the thoughtful but negative DigitalSpy review thread, here’s a thoughtful positive review from Den of Geek.

    http://www.denofgeek.com/television/236530/red_dwarf_back_to_earth_review.html

    Someone who feared the worst after the last two seasons and was pleasantly surprised, kind of like me.

    #97263
    Turk Thrust
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    Interesting review.

    It must be a bit tough for Doug and Andrew (if they look at these things) to constantly read that new writers should be brought in. Even from the pretty positive reviewers.

    If Doug does record a commentary or interviews for the DVD over the coming days then it will be interesting to hear whether he responds to criticisms made and talks about any lessons learnt.

    #97266
    NoFro
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    Thing is, the jokes felt like old school Dwarf jokes. If new writers were brought in again I fear we’d lose this.

    #97267
    SkyAndSun
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    Yeah I think maybe a better suggestion is a strong editor. Someone who will suggest cuts and tweaks and what’s working and what’s not. Am I right in saying Andrew Ellard is increasingly assuming this role?

    #97268
    NoFro
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    Or at least have a writer who knows Dwarf and respects it’s style of comedy.

    #97283
    mark100000
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    > Yeah I think maybe a better suggestion is a strong editor.

    Agreed, as proved by some ‘fan edits’ the story even for the ‘weaker’ first ep was strong just lacked someone with the guts to chop and change it around.

    #97315
    Ben Paddon
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    What I think is this: Doug clearly needs someone to bounce ideas off of. There were many moments in BtE that feel like they could have, with some nurturing, become moments rivaling or even surpassing classic Dwarf in terms of sheer hilarity. And, if you’ll just bear with me, I think I’ve devised a fair and equitable system of choosing who should help him out. It’s based on age, rank, seniority, usefulness…

    To cut a long story short, it’s me. I was a stunned as you are, which is why I demanded a recount. Well, blow me if it didn’t come out as me again!

    Typewriter.

    #97341
    hummingbird
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    After VII I’d feel very nervous about Doug writing with anyone else. But that’s not to say that it couldn’t work if he found the right person.

    #97342
    Mr Flibble
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    Agreed, as proved by some ?fan edits? the story even for the ?weaker? first ep was strong just lacked someone with the guts to chop and change it around.

    Skills which any editor needs. Cause it’s basically their job description.

    I’ve said this right since we saw Part 1 – it needs editing well. It’s poorly paced, needs a hell of a lot of tightening up. That evidently didn’t happen, and the show was much worse for it.

    #97372
    Carlito
    Participant

    Doug churning out a last minute script due to personal issues = the very, very enjoyable Back To Earth.

    Doug having plenty of time to write 6 scripts for Red Dwarf series IX = exciting as FUCK!

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