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  • #210858
    John Hoare
    Participant

    HELLO HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE YOU ARE GREAT.

    For anyone interested, it’s my blog’s fifth anniversary today, so I’ve written a little piece including my favourite posts over the years:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/01/dirty-feed-the-first-five-years/

    For anyone not interested, I’ve heard about this really great Red Dwarf site, you should check it out:

    http://www.ganymede.tv/

    #210859
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Update on Dirty Feed, about Comedy Central and Twitter:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/01/comedycentraluk/

    Admittedly, not quite as shit as @RedDwarfHQ, which is possibly the most stupid thing to have ever happened with anything ever.

    #210861
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    Read the article on the smashie and nicey end of era VHS. Brilliant stuff only had that on broadcast home taped never knew there was another edit. Nice one.

    #210862
    MANI506
    Participant

    Thank you to you and all at Team G & T. I love the enthusiasm and I’ve been inspired to rediscover or discover many classic comedys after reading the articles. I forgot how great End Of An Era is (she’ s not dead yet). Last years Story of the Twos is amazing as well. Any news on further Dwarf Casts? I am looking forward to the next one which reportedly covers one of the shit episodes.

    #210863
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Thank you all!

    G&T will update soon – I believe we have at least one Dwarfcast in the can. We’re all a bit busy with other stuff at the moment, but two more High & Low pieces are next on the agenda too.

    #210864
    Ben Kirkham
    Participant

    How dare you have lives of your own! I expect you all to spend every living hour obeying the whims of your fanbase, endlessly typing into a computer. But you all choose to have families, friends, lives, even jobs. Where are your priorities?

    #210890
    John Hoare
    Participant

    New Dirty Feed post – why TV channels go wrong, and why it’s nothing to do with “automation”:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/01/on-automation/

    #211004
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Just remembered I never linked to my latest article here, about what John Cleese dislikes about Fawlty Towers:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/02/11-things-wrong-with-fawlty-towers/

    (Weirdly, this got retweeted and linked to by quite a lot of people, and is probably the most-read article ever on Dirty Feed. Apparently, my best work is stuff where I just crib a load of quotes off John Cleese and have my own contribution be as minimal as possible.)

    #211068
    John Hoare
    Participant

    A little piece I’ve written about radio jingles:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/03/jingle-history-101/

    #211159
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    You planning any more podcasts? I enjoyed those…

    #211165
    John Hoare
    Participant

    You planning any more podcasts? I enjoyed those…

    Hooray! Thanks.

    I definitely have podcasts planned – I just want to make sure I can commit to a run of them rather than just shoving out the odd one with no proper releaser schedule to it. Hopefully this year, but I’ve said that since 2013…

    #211208
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Dirty Feed celebrates April Fools’ Day… with a BBC Micro version of Mornington Crescent:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/04/acorn-fools-day/

    #211209
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I definitely have podcasts planned – I just want to make sure I can commit to a run of them rather than just shoving out the odd one with no proper releaser schedule to it. Hopefully this year, but I’ve said that since 2013…

    2013? That long ago since the last couple….Jeez! They reminded me quite a bit of some that TV Cream have produced in the past. Their series of election podcasts or top moments from 50 years of Coronation Street (It was where I first learned about the pubs toilet leading into Dierdre and Kens back room!

    Make sure you let us know if and when you do release more…

    #211930
    John Hoare
    Participant

    DIRTY FEED IN ACTUALLY UPDATING AGAIN SHOCKER.

    You may enjoy this interview I did with a current BBC continuity announcer about what he loves about radio:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/06/duncan-newmarch-the-jingles-i-grew-up-with/

    Or you may not, in which case FUCK OFF.

    #212175
    John Hoare
    Participant

    The Crystal Maze and “modern audiences”:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/07/the-crystal-maze-modern-audiences/

    #212179
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    The funny thing about that is most people who contributed are probably old farts like us who watched the original shows, not really a ‘modern audience’…

    This makes me think of the grand statements people make saying ‘no-one wants to watch TV any more’ it’s total bullshit for those whose brains work exclusively in clickbait headlines.

    #212270
    John Hoare
    Participant
    #212502

    John, is there any way that the whole process of putting a channel on-air could be streamlined?

    It still all seems so manually driven. Pushing the right buttons and pulling the right levers, dialling in fades and doing count-ins and manually going to VT and all that.

    Is there not a way to set up scripts so that it removes the need to oversee the little details and as a result, not only push programmes onto the air with microsecond precision but remove the element of human error when, for example, cutting to adverts and in and out of live broadcasts?

    And if not, why not?

    #212509
    John Hoare
    Participant

    To be honest, what can be sensibly automated is already automated. I mean, pre-recorded programmes run automatically from the playlist with no intervention from the op, unless changes need to be made – and make it to air accurately to the frame.

    But anything live will require human intervention. Rarely will live programmes go to an ad break at a planned time to the *second* – timings drift all the time during live production. There’s no way to automatically take the ad break during a situation like that – someone has to take the decision to push the button, whoever that person is. A computer can’t decide that.

    Technically you *could* have an automated voice giving counts etc – and I have heard such things in production galleries before. In practice, for TX, it’s not worth it. There still has to be someone there to deal with problems – if either TX or the production has a breakdown. Or hell, if the production ask for extra time – there has to be someone in the seat who speaks for the *channel*, and takes that decision, rather than letting production teams run riot.

    Again, when you talk about “manually going to VT” – I mean, there’s no was to automate an entirely manual process like that. The whole thing when you’re in an emergency situation is that it needs human input to take decisions and make things work.

    A *lot* of what we do in TX is checking to pick up errors – again, most of this just isn’t something which can be automated. There’s no way a computer can tell that someone has put, say, the end of Part 1 of a programme in the wrong place, or that the audio description doesn’t match what is on screen. It needs a human eye or ear to notice, and then human input to correct.

    Short version: there’s a *lot* more automation in this job than there used to be. But removing the human element any more would be a very bad idea. You’d end up with a lot more stuff like this – the very opposite of what you’re intending!

    #212513

    I was going to reply with more questions as the art and methods of television broadcasting genuinely interest me. Then I had a glance over your Twitter and saw a picture of Cleo Rocos.

    One thing lead to the other, now I have two dozen photos of Cleo Rocos saved onto my hard drive.

    Cleo Rocos.

    What a fucking honey.

    #212688
    John Hoare
    Participant

    New Dirty Feed article, about One Foot in the Grave and edits. A heartland piece for Dirty Feed if ever I wrote one.

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/10/one-foot-in-the-grave-hearts-of-darkness/

    #212697
    John Hoare
    Participant

    And after YEARS of wondering, I finally have an answer to the question posed in the previous article!

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/10/hearts-of-darkness-the-thrilling-conclusion/

    #212699
    clem
    Participant

    Well done, John.

    #212731
    Stephen R. Fletcher
    Participant

    Just read the articles. Really fascinating stuff, John!

    #212741
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Cheers clem and Stephen!

    More to come soon. Working on a piece about Fast Show edits at the moment.

    #212875
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Working on a piece about Fast Show edits at the moment.

    Well, that took longer than I expected:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/11/the-fast-show-series-2-dvd-edits/

    #212876
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Fascinating. I can still pick out the sketches that weren’t in the original 1996 airing of The Christmas Special. Unfortunately, my recording is long since disposed of.

    #212877
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Ah, I didn’t realise the DVD version of the Christmas ep was extended compared to broadcast! So much of this stuff to dig up…

    What I *do* know is that the DVD version of You Ain’t Seen These, Right? is far longer than broadcast – by about 20 mins or so. Plan to do something on that at some point, too. (I do actually still have my VHS off-air of Fast Show Night.)

    #212878
    MANI506
    Participant

    I f
    Did have 1995 repeat and original series 2 on VHS but lost them when I bought the DVD. From memory (and I pretty much memorised series 2) 2015 repeat = original broadcast.

    #212879
    si
    Participant

    I’ve got Fast Show Night, too. I’ve got loads of old tapes, I’m sure there must be some original Fast Shows amongst them. Stuff like that, I tended to record the lot and give the vid a special sleeve.
    When I get this sling off in a few weeks, I’ll have a proper scrounge through my boxroom.

    #212880
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Lovely, thanks Si!

    #212881
    John Hoare
    Participant

    From memory (and I pretty much memorised series 2) 2015 repeat = original broadcast.

    Yeah, I put my disclaimer more as a health warning really. I’m not convinced there are any editorial changes. But you never know…

    #213015
    John Hoare
    Participant

    The differences between the original 2005 live broadcast of The Quatermass Experiment, and its DVD release:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/12/the-quatermass-experiment-experiment/

    #213017
    MANI506
    Participant

    Looking forward to this Labour of love! Thank you for all the great reads.

    #213127
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Looking forward to this Labour of love! Thank you for all the great reads.

    Thank you! I hope reading it didn’t cause a severe brain haemorrhage.

    I’ve now updated the piece at the end with further commentary on the breaking news straps. It is rather hardcore, though. And not in a fun way.

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2015/12/the-quatermass-experiment-experiment/

    #213137
    John Hoare
    Participant
    #213256
    John Hoare
    Participant

    A dissection of the Men Behaving Badly episode ‘Stag Night’, comparing its script with the finished episode:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/02/men-behaving-badly-stag-night/

    #213257
    MANI506
    Participant

    Even though I think MBB peaked at series 4, I have massive nostalgia for this episode because it was broadcast just after my first DJ!

    #213269
    si
    Participant

    I’ve got Fast Show Night, too. I’ve got loads of old tapes, I’m sure there must be some original Fast Shows amongst them. Stuff like that, I tended to record the lot and give the vid a special sleeve.
    When I get this sling off in a few weeks, I’ll have a proper scrounge through my boxroom.

    Sling off, started scrounging. Only looked in one box, but I’ve found a tape high has half of s2 and s3 on, which will be repeats because the tape’s designed the same as my Fast Show Night tape. I’ve found a Christmas 2000 video, which has the original transmissions of The Last Fast Show Ever parts one, two and three spread through it, in between Big Brother s1 highlights and It’s A Wonderful Life.

    #213289
    Taiwan Tony
    Participant

    John. What’s your favourite Simon Nye sitcom? Also open to others, obvs-iously.

    #213290

    Does ‘How Do You Want Me?’ count as a sitcom? If so, that’s the correct answer. Then MBB.

    #213291
    si
    Participant

    I loved How Do You want Me.

    #213292
    Taiwan Tony
    Participant

    Excellent choice. Mark Heap! I prefer Is It Legal? but recognise I’m probably in the minority…

    #213293
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Men Behaving Badly Series 3-5 is tops.

    I also have a soft spot for Emma Pierson in Beast. Oh, hang on; that’s not soft.

    #213295
    John Hoare
    Participant

    John. What’s your favourite Simon Nye sitcom? Also open to others, obvs-iously.

    I feel I can’t answer this properly, as I haven’t actually seen How Do You Want Me?

    I will say that I love Is It Legal?, and think it’s hugely underrated.

    #213300
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Oh, hang on; that’s not soft.

    Hardware.

    #213302

    I actually do have a soft spot for Hardware.

    #213546
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I actually quite liked Hardware as well. Possibly worth a Dirty Feed article, actually..

    In the meantime – the differences between the original pilot recording of Fawlty Towers, and its final broadcast:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/03/fawlty-towers-a-touch-of-class/

    #213547
    Taiwan Tony
    Participant

    Interesting stuff. I’d noticed differences in hair continuity before – but only John Cleese’s hair when he walks inside the hotel to outside. (Location shoots obviously didn’t account for how bedraggled he looked after hitting his guests with a stick and falling through the bar etc.)
    Outside the hotel he looks like he’s in the army, with a sensible brylcreemed short back and sides, and inside the hotel he looks like Reggie Watts.
    Don’t you just love that bit in the pilot when he appeals to the policeman “Just one.”

    PS. I also read your other FT post. I was really surprised to read that the Twitchin/fainting joke has been misunderstood. He says “Tw-” and sees the twitch! Then Twitchin says “it’s Twy-chin, actually.” This has rocked me to my very core.

    Any plans to do a Clement and LeFrenais Dirty Feed in the future? Or a Rik and Ade?

    #213548
    John Hoare
    Participant

    PS. I also read your other FT post. I was really surprised to read that the Twitchin/fainting joke has been misunderstood. He says “Tw-” and sees the twitch! Then Twitchin says “it’s Twy-chin, actually.” This has rocked me to my very core.

    You’re not the only person to say this – quite a few have:

    https://twitter.com/panthersolo/status/566913715165876224

    On the other hand, I’ve talked to plenty of people misinterpret it the same way I did – and Cleese has obviously met far too many. I can *definitely* see how it was intended now – there’s a close-up of the twitch, for fuck’s sake! – but I think Fawlty forgetting his own name earlier sets some people down the wrong road.

    Any plans to do a Clement and LeFrenais Dirty Feed in the future? Or a Rik and Ade?

    No plans at the moment for any Clement/La Frenais stuff – but I would like to write something properly about Filthy, Rich & Catflap. We’ll see. I try and go for things nobody else has written, if only because if a proper writer tackles a subject, they’ll do it far better than me!

    #213549
    Taiwan Tony
    Participant

    > I try and go for things nobody else has written, if only because if a proper writer tackles a subject, they’ll do it far better than me!

    Funnily enough, while I was reading your blog I was thinking about how much I could hear your voice coming through and how distinctive and great to read it is.

    I’d love a Filthy article.
    I recommend Roger Wilmut’s Didn’t You Kill My Mother-in-law as a reference.
    I’d also welcome something on Happy Families as it’s something I’ve only read about and never actually seen. And there’s the Red Dwarf link, too.

    #213824
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Funnily enough, while I was reading your blog I was thinking about how much I could hear your voice coming through and how distinctive and great to read it is.

    I’m properly chuffed to read this. Thank you!

    Latest piece is a bit worthy and not as much fun as comedy stuff I’m afraid:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/04/the-fragility-of-the-web/

    I’ll get back to knob jokes shortly.

    #213827
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    Way back machine is one internet tool i learnt from you John, and in my music worlds its been vital, not least because we spent years building a web site then it went down after fans fell out about its future, those that carried on recovered years of work that would have otherwise been lost. Nice article the internet like life suffers from “things aint what they used to be”

    #214005
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Way back machine is one internet tool i learnt from you John, and in my music worlds its been vital, not least because we spent years building a web site then it went down after fans fell out about its future, those that carried on recovered years of work that would have otherwise been lost. Nice article the internet like life suffers from “things aint what they used to be”

    This is excellent. There’s sadly bits of G&T which have fallen by the wayside which the Wayback Machine rescues. Although that’s due to my own incompetence rather than any falling out. Which makes it worse, really.

    #214006
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Anyway, latest Dirty Feed piece, linking together Who Framed Roger Rabbit and Monty Python:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/06/who-framed-michael-eisner/

    #214211
    John Hoare
    Participant

    For those that don’t follow me on Twitter – I’ve been posting lots of shorter entries on Dirty Feed this month as a little experiment, rather than one bigger article every month or so.

    There’s no one piece that stands out, but if you like the little things I’m obsessed with, it might be worth scrolling down the front page and seeing if anything catches your eye.

    #214347
    John Hoare
    Participant

    The only article ever to spend time comparing Quatermass and Mrs Brown’s Boys:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/08/mammy-gets-the-snip/

    #214357
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    I actually got a little emotional over Brendan’s speech about comedy at the end of the live episode…

    #214448
    John Hoare
    Participant

    An article which looks to be my usual kind of Twitter nonsense… and then turns rather odd about halfway through.

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/08/a-guide-to-social-media/

    #214466
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Excellent. A sneak peek at Dave’s new commission: “John Hoare’s Modern Life is Shitish”.

    #214473
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Excellent. A sneak peek at Dave’s new commission: “John Hoare’s Modern Life is Shitish”.

    aka the next five DwarfCasts.

    #214474
    si
    Participant

    Excellent. A sneak peek at Dave’s new commission: “John Hoare’s Modern Life is Shitish”.

    Ish?

    #214607

    John, excellent observations and commentaries as usual.

    I must ask, do you have an interest in teletext? There’s a great resurgence in the medium, spearheaded by the aptly named Teefax, built around the Raspberry Pi and able to be viewed through a bog-standard CRT for that authentic don’t sit too close to the telly atmosphere.

    #214622
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Does John like Teletext?

    Well, when my then-girlfriend and I crashed in John and Tanya’s front room during a stay in England some seven years ago (and very kind and gracious they were to have us for those nights, thanks again!) when we arrived they were, if memory serves, watching old Ceefax archives. Recreationally.

    #214624

    Well there was a war on, you have to do something with your nights if you have flat feet.

    #214788
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Thanks for the kind words, everyone. Yes, I do have an interest in teletext – I used to be a BBC Micro nut, which included a teletext mode. I once considered doing a redesign of Dirty Feed based around the look of teletext, but dismissed it as more trouble than it was worth. Would have been fun, though…

    #214792
    cwickham
    Member

    John, I don’t know if you’ve ever seen this page, but if you haven’t I’m sure it’d be of interest to you: http://simpsonsarchive.com/guides/dvdguide.html

    #214796
    John Hoare
    Participant

    John, I don’t know if you’ve ever seen this page, but if you haven’t I’m sure it’d be of interest to you: http://simpsonsarchive.com/guides/dvdguide.html

    I clearly *should* have seen this, but hadn’t! Fantastic stuff, thank you.

    #214797
    cwickham
    Member

    BTW: Although it’s not been updated in a few years, I contacted the guy running it a month or two ago with some information and he’s still around and hoping to bring it up to date at some point soon.

    #214810

    It appears the next great race is on – To assemble the definitive Simpsons cuts.

    #215475
    John Hoare
    Participant

    How the famous Blockbusters title sequence was made:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/09/blade-runner-afternoons/

    Bonus DWARF points: a certain “Peter C Tyler” is credited for the photos, and as lighting cameraman on the sequence!

    #215484

    You are doing God’s work, seriously.

    I was recently watching that very title sequence and thinking it how well it would still stand up if they were able to pull the original negs and transfer it to HD.

    #215486

    While we’re at it, John, if you can procure a stereo version of Jeff Wayne’s ‘Good Morning Britain’ theme, I’m going to buy you several pints at DJ XIX.

    I need it for… reasons.

    Also, a full length Fourscore would be a charming addition as well.

    #215487
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Bonus DWARF points: a certain “Peter C Tyler” is credited for the photos, and as lighting cameraman on the sequence!

    #215508
    Tanya Jones
    Participant

    Ben; I believe it was actually our DVD with recreations of old ITV start-ups, but we’ve both watched Ceefax for fun before.

    #215520
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Oh yes, so it was! Not judging, by the way. I love it when people are passionate about niche aspects of stuff, and the way you and John love and scrutinize TV – all of it, not just the shows but scheduling, and transmission breaks, and Ceefax, and bumpers, and all that other stuff people don’t really think about – is one of my favorite things about you two, and one of the things I find so endearing about you both.

    #215528
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    I think they’re both tedious cunts.

    #215529
    Kris Carter
    Participant

    I think, EVERYBODY’S right, so just forget I said anything, okay?

    #215548

    Being called an absolute fucking idiot by John was a genuine pleasure.

    He plays the ball, not the man.

    #217724
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Right, now I’ve hopefully finished DYING, back to usual on Dirty Feed. Like picking apart documentaries from 2005, because reasons:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/10/name-something-documentary-makers-should-avoid/

    #217728
    (deleted)
    Member

    Nice. Always thought that there’s another untold story somewhere in that “turkey” incident.

    Weird reminder of late-90s Carlton though – I had to spend several hours in the lobby of Carlton in late 1997 as my dad was appearing in the audience of some pseudo-The-Time-The-Place shit or other (he’d jump through fire every time Action Time’s contestant bookers rang him on the offchance he could get his face on the TV), and as there was a free hotel and chauffeured transport provided I’d been able to go as a +1, but it emerged that I wasn’t allowed in the studio audience. Anyway, an exhausting 3-4 hours sat in Carlton’s lobby without a book or even a screen of the studio feed to look at – the atmosphere in that fucking place still gives me the creeps now. People looking like death, people shouting and stressing out – not for one second did I feel safe and I couldn’t wait to get out of the shithole. Even now if I ever see the endcap I get the shivers.

    It occurs to me now that it’s very possible David Cameron was sat elsewhere in the building. And a lot of things suddenly make sense.

    #217746
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Yeah, I always feel there’s a few gaps about the incident which I’m really tempted to attempt to fill in, but may be distasteful to do so.

    Fucking Carlton. They ruined my beloved Central. I’m still genuinely bitter about it. I honestly believe if Central had been the ones to team up with Granada and take over the ITV network, television would have been a lot better off. Not perfect, not some imagined glory days… but better than we got.

    #218097
    John Hoare
    Participant

    For anyone who wants a long self-indulgent rambling blogpost self-analysising Dirty Feed until it retains no joy or magic whatsoever:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/11/independent-blogs/

    For anyone who wants something more interesting: I hear if you type “boobies” or “big willies” into Google you get some great sites, but I’ve not tried it myself.

    #218372
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Hi-de-Hi!’s recent BBC Two broadcast of Series 1, compared to the 2003 DVD release:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/11/hi-de-hi-edits-2/

    #218690
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I’ve been writing various things over the past few weeks, but linking to every single thing in this thread would be tedious for everyone concerned, so I try to mainly keep it to TV-related articles in here.

    Some of you might be interested in my latest internet archeology piece, though:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/11/ghosts-of-internet-past/

    #218701
    flanl3
    Member

    I must say, The Rad Project was an amazing read.

    #218734
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I must say, The Rad Project was an amazing read.

    Hooray! Somebody else thinks so! I love it so much.

    Meanwhile, if you’re reading this on Saturday night, it seems an appropriate time to look back on Bob Monkhouse dealing with the lottery going tits up – nearly 20 years ago to the day:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/12/network/

    #218737
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Fab post, John.

    #218741
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Cheers Ben. Much appreciated.

    #218745
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    No, seriously. I haven’t said much else because I have nothing substantial to say, but I’ve now re-read it four times.

    #218748
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Oh, I wasn’t being sarcastic, promise! I’m really glad you liked it!

    I had to write that one in a rush when I realised it really needed to be published that Saturday, or not at all. Sometimes they turn out shit when I do that, so I’m glad it worked…

    #218831
    John Hoare
    Participant
    #218836
    cwickham
    Member

    John, if I was looking for an extremely obscure ITV television series from 1991 which (as far as I can tell) was never repeated, was definitely never even released on VHS, let alone DVD, and no off-air copies are known to exist… would you say there’s any chance whatsoever of it turning up?

    #218845
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I would say there’s always a chance. Even if it was just getting an episode or two.

    #218959
    John Hoare
    Participant

    MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY. Here’s something on the Christmas episodes of George & Mildred, and how the final episode of the show calls the programme’s own bluff:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/12/a-george-mildred-christmas/

    #219058
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Best of Dirty Feed 2016, if you want to skip the dreck and just read the mildly interesting:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2017/01/dirty-feed-best-of-2016/

    #219090
    John Hoare
    Participant
    #219118

    It was the bastards in power who told us they and their machinations are important in the first place.

    Silly things are not silly, by any measure.

    Never, ever let anything or anyone else corrupt or dilute what makes you happy.

    #219206
    John Hoare
    Participant

    The story behind unbroadcast Fox game show Our Little Genius… and my own brief dalliance with the FCC.

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2017/01/our-little-genius/

    #219207
    flanl3
    Member

    Lovely, but you might like to know that I’m fairly certain some dates which should be listed as 2010 are presented as 2009. Specifically, you claim that 7th January 2010 and 7th January 2009 are the same day, and a couple things like that.

    But really, holy damn, that was a wild ride from start to finish.

    #219208
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I cannot *believe* I missed those. I checked it right through before publishing yesterday, and somehow they still managed to slip though. I’m an imbecile.

    Just corrected them, and added a short note at the end of the piece. Thank you!

    #219209
    flanl3
    Member

    It’s alright. After all, if things like that never happened, mistakes were never made, and errors never slipped through the cracks, you’d have lost a third of your content.

    #219215
    John Hoare
    Participant

    ‘ALLO ‘ALLO EDITS TIME, IT’S ‘ALLO ‘ALLO EDITS TIME

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2017/01/allo-allo-pigeon-post/

    #219216
    MANI506
    Participant

    Thanks to John I have watched the first episodes of Hi de Hi and Allo Allo. There is much good stuff to come I think! John and Tanya also got me watching Brittas and Filthy Rich & Catflap. Lovely people!

    #219254
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Cheers, thank you! That someone ever watches something based on my nonsense is my favourite thing about doing the site.

    Anyway, I’ve finally finished my piece comparing the DVD and the BBC Two repeats of Hi-de-Hi! from last year, so links to all four articles are:

    Pilot: http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/09/hi-de-hi-edits-1/
    Series 1: http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/11/hi-de-hi-edits-2/
    Series 2-5: http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2016/12/hi-de-hi-edits-3/
    Series 6-9: http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2017/02/hi-de-hi-edits-4/

    Nearly five months between the first and last articles of the series, which is slightly excessive. Although perhaps not as excessive as this.

    #219277
    John Hoare
    Participant

    frasier pilot edits frasier pilot edits frasier pilot edits frasier pilot edits

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2017/02/frasier-the-good-son/

    #219776
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Hey all. It’s been a while since I posted something on Dirty Feed which I thought might interest people here, but here’s something about TV playout and THAT McDonald’s advert:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2017/05/mcdonalds-playout/

    #219790
    John Hoare
    Participant

    New design launched, so now you can all read it on mobiles without cricking your neck.

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2017/05/dirty-feed-iii/

    #219853
    John Hoare
    Participant

    How a BBC Micro can help you with your morality:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2017/06/how-strong-are-your-moral-values/

    #219967
    John Hoare
    Participant
    #221829
    John Hoare
    Participant

    It’s been a while since I wrote anything on Dirty Feed which seemed suitable to let people know about on here, but I’ve finally come up with something. On one of Trev and Simon’s funniest and rudest jokes… and how it was censored for video release:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2017/09/a-public-service-announcement-on-trev-and-simon/

    #221870
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I really regret not hanging on to Trev and Simon’s Stupid Book. Utterly hilarious.

    #221891
    clem
    Participant

    Did you scribble all over the clown?

    #225683
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Not published anything on Dirty Feed for a while, but you may (or indeed may not) enjoy this which I’ve just posted about one reason why I love jingles:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2017/12/in-jingle-heaven-since-1977/

    #228413
    John Hoare
    Participant

    If you’re interested in Dennis Potter, you might find this analysis of the changes made between the original script and the final play of Stand Up, Nigel Barton interesting:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2018/02/stand-up-nigel-barton/

    If you are not interested in Dennis Potter, you might not find that analysis of the changes made between the original script and the final play of Stand Up, Nigel Barton interesting.

    #230136
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Something fun about an early version of the famous letter in The Breakfast Club:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2018/04/sincerely-yours-the-breakfast-club/

    #230143
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    I know people don’t comment on this thread so much, but I want you to know that I love the time, effort, energy and verve that you put into pieces like this. Bloody marvelous stuff.

    #230241
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Ah, thanks Ben! I really appreciate it.

    I’m expecting less feedback at the moment anyway, on here at least, because I’ve drifted away from writing about sitcoms. I must rectify that…

    #230249
    Taiwan Tony
    Participant

    I do love a Dirty Feed article. And I am feeling slightly guilty about enjoying sitcoms more than the works on Dennis Potter, for example. But I remember sitting down (on my bed) to watch Cold Lazarus when it first aired on telly. (The Channel 4 one, I think.)
    Listening to the Frank Skinner Show podcast (episode: “Gitcoin”), I’ve just learnt about 2 sitcoms I don’t think I ever knew about. Chance In A Million, which was written by the writers of The Brittas Empire, and The Gnomes of Dulwich which sounds like it was cribbed by the writers of Chish ‘n’ Fips.

    #232769
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Apologies TT – I entirely missed your post before now! Thank you. I’ve been meaning to write about Chance in a Million for ages – by rights, we should have covered it on G&T as soon as the DVD came out…

    Meanwhile, I just wrote this about the churn of television:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2018/06/the-churn/

    (Please note, Westworld fans – at no point in this article do I say that Star Trek: Voyager is better than Westworld. A skim-reading of it might suggest I do say that, but in fact I do not.)

    #232770
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    It is, though.

    #235601
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Audience recording report, on The Lenny Henry Birthday Show:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2018/08/the-lenny-henry-birthday-show/

    #236457
    Lily
    Member

    Just got around to watching this on iplayer. I could have done with more interview and less sketches, but I can understand why someone who’s not been on telly in ages would want to do some new stuff.

    The aggressive interview style you mentioned certainly came through, especially at the start when talking about childhood but he did seem to chill out a bit later. Overall though a good watch and one I probably wouldn’t have bothered with if I’d not read your report a few weeks ago :)

    #236609
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Hooray! Something I wrote was actually of some use! Thank you.

    (Oddly enough, I’ve not got round to watching the final show yet. It’s sitting on the Sky+, waiting…)

    #237420
    John Hoare
    Participant

    In which I review Channel 4 game show Cheap Cheap Cheap precisely one year late to the day:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2018/09/cheap-cheap-cheap/

    #237435
    Flap Jack
    Member

    I don’t think I’d even heard of Cheap, Cheap, Cheap until now, but it was a good read regardless!

    Based on your description, it sounds vaguely Shooting Stars-ish. Colour me moderately interested.

    #237437
    Paul Muller
    Participant

    Eminently readable and informative as always John.

    Noel Edmonds is still a twat though.

    #237438

    RIP Birdman profile image

    #238665
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Something I wrote about Drop the Dead Donkey’s unbroadcast pilot:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2018/10/drop-the-dead-donkey-the-unbroadcast-pilot/

    #238667
    Dave
    Member

    That was an excellent read, thanks. I loved that series – I should check out the DVDs.

    (Also, did you ever read the novel? An interesting one.)

    #238669
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Ah, thank you! Definitely worth getting the DVDs – what’s especially interesting is how little of it is topical comedy. It’s mainly just an extremely amusing office sitcom.

    I’ve never read the book, but I should try it after I’ve finished my rewatch. I seem to recall it’s based around an unmade script for a DTDD film…

    #238672
    Dave
    Member

    Yeah, I watched a few episodes on Channel 4’s online streaming service (whatever it’s called this week) a while back and was surprised by how well it had aged – the topical stuff was less prominent than I remembered. Maybe it stood out more at the time because there wasn’t quite as much up-to-the-minute topical comedy available as we have today.

    The novel is slightly odd in that it was released in 1994 but set in 1999/2000 (in line with the ’90s obsession with the millennium), so might read strangely today given our knowledge of what happened in the intervening years. Plus, it diverges quite a bit from the TV series by the end.

    I guess it’s a way of sidestepping the problems of doing a topical comedy in book form (or as originally intended, as a film) – by essentially creating an alternate future to play in rather than worrying about reflecting real life – but inevitably some jokes take on a different meaning given subsequent real-life events (I’m sure there’s at least one Princess Diana gag in there).

    #240991
    John Hoare
    Participant
    #240992
    Ben Saunders
    Member

    Pretty funny, reminds me of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/doctorwho/comments/8d8r32/times_doctor_who_was_ruined_forever/

    Just found out the Doctor Who General Wiki was taken down, probably banned, which is a shame because it had a couple really funny articles, like that list there

    #240993
    Warbodog
    Member

    Or the sort of thing SOTCAA used to come out with entirely seriously. Ahhhhhh.

    #241026

    Has anyone done an Onion / Clickhole-style site that parodies things like Den of Geek? Because reading that article has made me want to read lots more articles like that.

    #241028
    Ben Saunders
    Member

    I’m sure I’ve seen something along those lines but I can’t remember where. You have RedLetterMedia’s “The Nerd Crew” which is a pisstake of “nerd culture” YouTube shows like Collider, etc

    #253038
    John Hoare
    Participant

    With many thanks to Darrell, here’s something on Dirty Feed which hopefully a few of you will be interested in. A script-to-scene analysis of one of the best episodes of KYTV, ‘Challenge Anna’:

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2019/07/kytv-challenge-anna/

    Look, I spared you all my Shangri-Las piece from earlier in the year, so BE GRATEFUL.

    #253311
    John Hoare
    Participant
    #253798
    John Hoare
    Participant

    A ridiculous article about Are You Being Served?, which easily matches my most ludicrous pieces about Red Dwarf.

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2019/09/beyond-grace-brothers/

    #256537
    John Hoare
    Participant

    A four part series about the origin of Fawlty Towers… although not everything is quite as it first seems.

    http://www.dirtyfeed.org/tag/fawlty-at-large/?order=asc

    #256540

    This is well-written, fascinating stuff. Thank you, Mr Hoare.

    #256541
    Dave
    Member

    This was an excellent read. Thanks.

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