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  • #273434

    Oh fuck off.

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    #273435
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    then it was a case of thinking back over which episode most likely fits the colour balance on show as the look of the headshots evolves a fair amount over time

    … the colour balance of the Holly headshots changes over time.

    You’re operating on another level, Jenuall. 🀯

    #273439

    BURN THE WITCH

    #273440
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Such a bold claim demanded investigation. Here are the first full Holly shots from each episode:

    I know visual Holly was added into The End and Balance of Power (at least) with later reshoots, not sure if Waiting for God was another of those, but he’s on set monitors for most of that. Maybe the paler ones from Future Echoes & Confidence and Paranoia were the earliest version? My bullshit also demands investigation.

    #273441
    Dave
    Participant

    Are those from the smegadrive? Am I right in thinking that it uses the Blu-Ray as the source? I wonder if those colours were tweaked much for the new transfer.

    #273442
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Tired: Remembering which outfit Cat wears in each episode.

    Wired: Remembering which hexadecimal colour values Holly’s monitor background and face skin are in each episode.

    #273443
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Here’s a version using an older source, with less distinct variation:

    I’d say Waiting for God (bottom left) looks like the telltale prototype there.

    #273444
    Dave
    Participant

    Wow, there’s quite a lot of difference between that and the first set.

    #273445
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Yeah the Blu-ray versions look quite rubbish by comparison! We used those as they work better for memes as they’re brighter, but some of the grading choices really re questionable.

    #273446
    Dave
    Participant

    Yeah you’d assume they did it to try and get a more consistent look, but the BR ones are all over the place. Weird.

    #273447
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Honestly I don’t find the change problematic (and it not being as bright actually looks a bit weird to me now), but it is strange that the Blu ray flipped things around so Holly is at his whitest in Future Echoes and Confidence & Paranoia, and makes him less white in Me^2 as well so the difference is even more obvious in this comparison.

    #273448
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Ohhh, hang on a sec: once I’d realised I was looking at Series 1 Holly, my next guess was Me2! Did my subconscious remember his DVD face colour???

    I mean probably not, but still.

    #273449
    Jenuall
    Participant

    Let’s face it, Holly colour grading hot takes and deep dives are the content we all come to G&T for!

    The evolution of the pixel effect is quite fun to see over time as well, by MeΒ² it’s significantly more subtle

    #273457
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    06/05/2022 

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    I’d correctly identified the type of scenery by Guess 2, but getting the episode wrong (I put Backwards) made me second guess myself for 3.

    #273458
    clem
    Participant
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    Piece of piss. 
    #273459
    RunawayTrain
    Participant

    06/05/2022 

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    That’s more like it.  Had a complete and utter brain block for literally a few minutes after the second square was revealed though – I knew *exactly* which episode but couldn’t think of the title!!  Strange feeling to have a total blank about Red Dwarf.

    #273460
    Warbodog
    Participant

    #RedDwarf #Smegle 06/05/2022 

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    I managed to identify the blurry material in square 1, so went through the rustic ones.

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    #RedDwarf #Smegle 06/05/2022 

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    That’s a bit better. Clem how the hell did you recognise it from the first square? 

    #273462
    Dave
    Participant

    Yeah, this one was much more gettable – I got it on guess two too.

    #273464
    Jenuall
    Participant

    3 for me today, kicking myself as I should have got it from the hat! 

    #273465
    Unrumble
    Participant

    #RedDwarf #Smegle 06/05/2022 

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    Same 😎

    #273468
    clem
    Participant

    Clem how the hell did you recognise it from the first square? 

    That didn’t really help. It was just that there were quite a few brown squares and Gunmen’s the brownest episode. At least I think of it as such, possibly because of the VI DVD cover mainly. 

    #273469
    Dave
    Participant

    There’ll be a day when it’s a sea of bright pink and everyone gets it on the first attempt. 

    #273471
    Jenuall
    Participant

    There’ll be a day when it’s a sea of bright pink and everyone gets it on the first attempt. 

    Or fails and it turns out to be a close up of cats pink suit! 

    #273473

    The hat gave it away for me.

    #273480
    clem
    Participant

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    Another one where the colours were a big help. 

    #273481
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Another one where the colours were a big help. 

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    It didn’t look/feel like several of the series do, so I went for the other options.

    #273482
    Dave
    Participant

    Took me 4 today. There’s a lot of shots/scenes from TPL that just haven’t got lodged in my mind yet, and that’s one of them.

    #273483

    #RedDwarf #Smegle 07/05/2022 

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    BOOOOOM!

    #273485

    I think my guesses were the same as Warbodog’s.

    #273486
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    07/05/2022 

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    Seems like Dave and I are somewhat alike in mind with this one! The scene just didn’t occur to me – even once the hand holding an implement and the helmet were revealed and I guessed correctly, I was thinking of the scene where they’re using the vegan forks for some reason.

    The white squares threw me too. Turns out there weren’t any actual white things in shot, just some reflective things (LIKE MOONLIGHT OMG).

    Also, if it’s The Promised Land, then as long as you recognise the frame shape you’re guaranteed to get it in 5. So if you’re not feeling confident then the strategic play is to guess other series first.

    #273490
    RunawayTrain
    Participant

    07/05/2022 

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    I’m shocked!  Didn’t recognise the brown from anywhere, so as a shot to nothing guessed TPL, and here we are  :D

    #273491
    clem
    Participant

    #273500
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    08/05/2022 

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    Ahhh, that’s more like it. Thought it was that one part of their AR trial in Back in the Red at first. Although even now I can’t remember why or how there was a solid white background there.

    #273501
    RunawayTrain
    Participant

    Payback for yesterday?

    08/05/2022 

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    (But, as a very niche aside, after coming across highlights on YouTube of an archaeological excavation with Stewart Ainsworth, in a trench, *digging* – something I never ever though I’d see, to the point that I actually laughed out loud in disbelief – nothing can dampen my amusement tonight!)

    #273502
    Unrumble
    Participant

    08/05/2022 

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    First guess was M-Corp, as there was a stark white background. When that failed, I thought it might be something from outside in Better Than Life. Then it was clear it was the Holly watch, and well, rather obvious.. 

    #273503
    Dave
    Participant

    First guess was M-Corp, as there was a stark white background

    Ditto. I ignored the aspect ratio at my peril.

    I eventually got it on guess 3.

    #273504

    #RedDwarf #Smegle 08/05/2022 

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    my first thought from the immense amount of white and mix colours in the centre was the opening shot from Tikka. That at least gave me the series but the second square reveal was clearly the Holly Watch so it could only be one episode then. 

    #273505
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    It’s funny, despite being the one to warn against not paying attention to the aspect ratio, I very nearly guessed M-Corp too. It was like an instinctive response.

    And oof, that is some diabolical bad luck, RunawayTrain. I assume your last 2 guesses were for Series VIII and Series 2 (in either order)?

    #273506
    RunawayTrain
    Participant

    And oof, that is some diabolical bad luck, RunawayTrain. I assume your last 2 guesses were for Series VIII and Series 2 (in either order)?

    I guessed series 2 fairly early on.  It was clear from the second guess it was something with Holly, then by guess 4 or so that it was a watch, but I couldn’t for the life of me think where – Epideme and Nanarchy are even less-watched for me than VIII – which in retrospect should have been a clue, but hey *shrug* 

    #273507
    Warbodog
    Participant

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    It’s an image I’ve seen often enough outside of the episode (memes, maybe a G&T banner?) to recognise it.

    I figured it wouldn’t be a flash frame explosion or something like that, since I assume these are random frames G&T get that they decide to smegle up, so there’s more chance of a lingering shot.

    #273508
    clem
    Participant
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    How’s everyone’s streaks doing three weeks since the launch of the Daily Difficult? I’m currently on 4 having made it to 17 then been foiled by the Duct Soup one a few days ago. 
    #273509
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I’m on 11, just today beating my previous longest streak of 10.

    #273510
    Jenuall
    Participant

    I assumed they were cropping these so that you couldn’t guess via aspect ratio! 

    #273511
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    lol, while I can understand being able to immediately narrow it down to 22 or 52 episodes might make it feel “too easy” for some (definitely not me), cropping images to make the aspect ratios uniform would be extremely unfair. Smegle is meant to be testing your recognition of actual frames from Red Dwarf.

    #273512
    Warbodog
    Participant

    I found it hard to identify the ratio a couple of times, especially with the number of reveal squares (6×4) being the same. I’ve learned to spot it by whether the squares are actually square (BBC) or rectangles (Dave).

    I’ve got a full 22 days, I don’t know how many of us are left waiting to be picked off.

    #273515
    RunawayTrain
    Participant

    Streak?  More like a smudge – my longest is 4.  Equalled or bettered by my longest losing streak, no doubt.  [It’s actually quite liberating having no real achievement to protect though, in all honesty.]

    Warbodog, that is mightily impressive!

    #273517
    RunawayTrain
    Participant

    Ooh, redemption perhaps


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    #273518

    #RedDwarf #Smegle 09/05/2022 

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    I was doing fine up until that blasted Duct Soup one. I also missed a day so my streaks have been all over the place and I haven’t really been paying attention to my longest   Apparently currently on 5

    #273519
    Dave
    Participant

    Got today’s in 3. I initially thought that hair was someone else.

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