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  • #310897
    Warbodog
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    I saw this game on a Star Trek forum, and it’s a way to pass the time with diminishing praise or increasing bile, whatever’s your poison.

    THE OBJECTIVE: A sudden-death elimination game in which we remove our personal favorite episodes from a themed list, until we arrive at the episode that is, if not the worst, at least the most disliked.

    It’s a framework to say positive things about episodes from across the series.

    THE RULES: Below is a list of [first episodes from every Red Dwarf series] so far. Eliminate/save the one you deem the ‘best’ of what currently remains.

    Post something you enjoy about the episode you are saving, and copy-and-paste the list with your choice removed.

    I don’t know whether at least 12 people will care to take part. If not, multiple turns are allowed after waiting patiently. If this goes the distance, I guess we’ll have organised the worst Red Dwarf series ever, which would have been totally impossible to predict in advance.

    The End

    Kryten

    Backwards

    Camille

    Holoship

    Psirens

    Tikka to Ride

    Back in the Red, Part 1

    Back to Earth, Part 1

    Trojan

    Twentica

    Cured

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  • #310898
    Warbodog
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    Just to clarify what’s going on, I’ll start by saving Kryten. One of the funniest and most quotable episodes that broke the format of the show for the best. It can take an initial watch to warm up to Original Kryten when you’re used to Proper Kryten, but that’s hardly the episode’s fault.

    The End

    Backwards

    Camille

    Holoship

    Psirens

    Tikka to Ride

    Back in the Red, Part 1

    Back to Earth, Part 1

    Trojan

    Twentica

    Cured

    #310899
    Ace Austin
    Participant

    I think i’ll save (and I know it’s an odd one) Trojan. It just brought me so much joy to see a return to the classic Red Dwarf studio audience self contained format after so so so long. I was always a bit disappointed with Series VII, VIII and Back To Earth so this series premier was such a relief and a brilliant return to form AND we met one of Rimmer’s brothers. MOOSE

    The End

    Backwards

    Camille

    Holoship

    Psirens

    Tikka to Ride

    Back in the Red, Part 1

    Back to Earth, Part 1

    Twentica

    Cured

    #310900
    Rushy
    Participant

    I would save Holoship. It’s my favourite episode in the entire series. Both a satire of romantic melodramas and an earnest example of one. I love the hope that Nirvanah has for Rimmer’s future, and that she can see the good man in him trying to get out. The writing is more empathetic to Rimmer than at any other point in the series. 
    Plus, there’s a lot of great moments, like the dialogue between Lister and Binks, and the crew auditioning for another hologram. 

    The End

    Backwards

    Camille

    Psirens

    Tikka to Ride

    Back in the Red, Part 1

    Back to Earth, Part 1

    Twentica

    Cured

    #310902
    Dave
    Participant

    #310903
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Aww, Rushy, I thought I could rely on you to snipe a controversial one, leaving a final list that wasn’t just VIII + Timewave.

    #310906
    desbug
    Participant

    Tikka to Ride… the conspiracy nuts still haven’t figured it out. Also series VII started with such promise, so ratio of how much I like this episode vs how much I like the rest of the series (which is a scientific ranking method I just invented) is highest here.

    The End

    Backwards

    Camille

    Holoship

    Psirens

    Back in the Red, Part 1

    Back to Earth, Part 1

    Twentica

    Cured

    #310912

    Are we allowed to put one back? I want Tikka back in there. Holoship’s been put back!

    The End

    Backwards

    Psirens

    Back in the Red, Part 1

    Back to Earth, Part 1

    Twentica

    Cured

    I’m saving Camille, because it’s the only episode there I highly rate.

    #310913

    I’ll save Cured as it’s my personal favourite episode

    The End

    Backwards

    Psirens

    Back in the Red, Part 1

    Back to Earth, Part 1

    Twentica

    #310915
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I’ll save The End. Respect for the one that started it all! It’s not the best episode and it’s very different in structure and feel to what Red Dwarf would become, but the storytelling and character set up for Lister and Rimmer was close to immaculate.

    (I also choose not to copy the background colour from the list of episodes, if that’s OK.)

    Backwards

    Psirens

    Back in the Red, Part 1

    Back to Earth, Part 1

    Twentica

    #310918
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Are we allowed to put one back? I want Tikka back in there.

    This is how January 6 happened.

    #310921

    I’m honestly offended anyone would remove Tikka over Back in the Red pt1, Back to Earth pt1 and maybe even Backwards 

    #310922
    Dave
    Participant

    I’m honestly offended anyone would remove Tikka over Back in the Red pt1, Back to Earth pt1 and maybe even Backwards 

    Red Dwarf: Just The Backs

    #310924

    I’m honestly offended anyone would remove Tikka over Back in the Red pt1, Back to Earth pt1 and maybe even Backwards 

    Red Dwarf: Just The Backs

    Idea for a terrible box set.

    #310925
    Dax101
    Participant

    I demand cured and trojan be put back. What is this crazyness!

    Think of the children. Please think of the children!

    #310926
    Podey
    Participant

    I’m having Psirens.

    Backwards

    BITR1

    BTE1

    Twentica

    #310927
    Podey
    Participant

    (also, to be honest, I have next to no concept of how good Twentica is. I remember enjoying it, but less so than some other Dave episodes, but more so than some other Dave episodes, but also that it might entirely be because The Actor Kevin Eldon is in it)

    #310928
    Dax101
    Participant

    I’l save backwards. Very ambitious episode and a good introduction for the new look of the show.

    BITR1

    BTE1

    Twentica

    #310929
    Dave
    Participant

    I’ll save BTE1. It was good to have Red Dwarf back.

    ——–

    BITR1

    TWENTICA

    #310930
    clem
    Participant

    And I’ll save Twentica. Pretty strong series opener, a nice ensemble episode with a strong guest cast and good production values.

    Surprise surprise, that leaves BITR1. What happens now? We do the same for the second episode of each series? 

    #310931
    Dave
    Participant

    #310932
    Podey
    Participant

    Not to throw a spanner in the works but, as ‘The Promised Land’ was split into multiple parts On Demand might there not be a case to add ‘TPL1’….? I know people who missed the live broadcast who only saw it split up. 

    #310933
    Rushy
    Participant

    Nice one Dave… 

    I’m saving Fathers and Suns. I love Rebecca Blackstone’s performance, and Lister talking to recordings of himself is one of my all-time favourite Red Dwarf sketches. Good character development, solid continuity with the show’s past, exciting all the way through. The Taiwan Tony subplot is a bit of a nothing, but has never bothered me. 

    Future Echoes

    Better than Life

    Marooned

    DNA

    The Inquisitor

    Legion

    Stoke Me a Clipper

    Back in the Red Part 2

    Back to Earth Part 2

    Samsara

    Siliconia

    #310934
    Dave
    Participant

    Future Echoes is superb. I’m taking that out of the running immediately. 

    Better than Life

    Marooned

    DNA

    The Inquisitor

    Legion

    Stoke Me a Clipper

    Back in the Red Part 2

    Back to Earth Part 2

    Samsara

    Siliconia

    #310935

    Marooned is often sighted as Red Dwarf at some of its best writing, at least in terms of Lister and Rimmer dialogue, so we’ll save that 

    • Better than Life

      DNA

      The Inquisitor

      Legion

      Stoke Me a Clipper

      Back in the Red Part 2

      Back to Earth Part 2

      Samsara

      Siliconia

    #310936
    Warbodog
    Participant

    The Inquisi-tor. There are enough funny and light episodes, this is one of the best (or the best) dark action ones and still inspires plenty of discussion, even if it’s mainly about Rimmer being in the wrong costume.

    Better than Life

    DNA

    Legion

    Stoke Me a Clipper

    Back in the Red Part 2

    Back to Earth Part 2

    Samsara

    Siliconia

    #310937
    clem
    Participant

    Not to throw a spanner in the works but, as ‘The Promised Land’ was split into multiple parts On Demand might there not be a case to add ‘TPL1’….?

    It’s always been ‘as originally broadcast’ for the big quinquennial episode polls, so I assume that’s what we’re going with for this as well.

    #310938
    clem
    Participant

    I’m saving Legion, one of the funniest episodes ever.

    Better than Life 

    DNA 

    Stoke Me a Clipper 

    Back in the Red Part 2 

    Back to Earth Part 2

    Samsara 

    Siliconia 

    #310939
    Warbodog
    Participant

    I said “first episodes from every Red Dwarf series,” so didn’t plan on including TPL, but I’d forgotten it’s called Series XIII now.

    It’d be hard for me to choose from the middle of that list, until I remember how rapey BITR 2 is.

    #310940
    Podey
    Participant

    True, but it is always at least *included* in the polls…. 

    We could do every episode of every series, then face those off against each other, then the winner of those off against each other, then the winner of those, then the final episode goes against TPL? 

    For a laugh, like. 

    #310941
    Dave
    Participant

    BITR3 versus Timewave is going to break people once we get to Episode 3.

    #310942
    Dax101
    Participant

    One of you will save Timewave. I’m watching you!

    #310943
    Warbodog
    Participant

    #310945
    Nick R
    Participant

    I’m going to save Stoke Me A Clipper because I still remember how much I loved the opening Ace Rimmer action sequence the first time I saw it.

    Better than Life 

    DNA 

    Back in the Red Part 2 

    Back to Earth Part 2

    Samsara 

    Siliconia 

    #310946
    Rushy
    Participant

    if the next person doesn’t pick Better than Life, I will be truly appalled 

    #310947
    Nick R
    Participant

    Also, once we’ve gone though all the episode 6s, do we do Epideme vs Pete Part II, and then Nanarchy vs Only the Good…?

    #310948
    Rushy
    Participant

    And what about the books?

    #310949

    I’m saving DNA, because it’s a very, very funny episode. Also because I want Rushy to be appalled.

    Better than Life  

    Back in the Red Part 2 

    Back to Earth Part 2

    Samsara 

    Siliconia 

    #310951
    Rushy
    Participant

    I’m saving DNA, because it’s a very, very funny episode. Also because I want Rushy to be appalled. 

    #310952
    Unrumble
    Participant

    I mean, it’s obviously Better than Life, as appealing as appalling Rushy is. 

    Back in the Red Part 2 

    Back to Earth Part 2

    Samsara 

    Siliconia 

    #310953
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I’ll save Samsara. It was a generally well executed Justice sequel concept with a unique flashback structure to it, and the formica scene isn’t quite as unbearable as everyone says.

    Back in the Red, Part 2

    Back to Earth, Part 2

    Siliconia

    #310955
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Also, once we’ve gone though all the episode 6s, do we do Epideme vs Pete Part II, and then Nanarchy vs Only the Good…?

    Different people should take on the responsibility for each, we can’t deny PP2 its chance to shite.

    #310965
    Technopeasant
    Participant

     I know people who missed the live broadcast who only saw it split up. 

    And those of us pirating it overseas… in my mind, its a two parter.

    #310966
    Technopeasant
    Participant

    I would take off “Siliconia” for managing to do an army of Krytens comparatively well given the budget, but I probably should let Moonlight do the honours for the fish speech.

    Any bets that we will just keep beating up Series VIII?

    #310970
    Dave
    Participant

    Any bets that we will just keep beating up Series VIII?

    BITR3 versus Timewave is going to break people once we get to Episode 3.

    #310972
    Warbodog
    Participant

    It was probably going to come down to Back in the Red Part 2 vs Back to Earth Part 2 anyway. Any sexual magnetism hi-jinks / Dibbley Family fans, or does the worst series get another orange segment?

    #310974
    Dave
    Participant

    I’ll take off BTE2 as the meta stuff on Earth is pretty funny in places, and the storyline isn’t weirdly rapey.

    #310976
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Hooray, Back in the Red wins again. Will the trilogy be complete?

    Balance of Power

    Thanks for the Memory

    Polymorph

    Justice

    Terrorform

    Gunmen of the Apocalypse

    Ouroboros

    Back in the Red, Part 3

    Back to Earth, Part 3

    Lemons

    Give & Take

    Timewave

    #310977
    Unrumble
    Participant

    Thanks For the Memory. Probably my fave episode overall. 

    #310978
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Gunmen of the Apocalypse is still one of the most fun episodes, I’ve never tired of it. Lots of good gags and love the lava moon too.

    Balance of Power

    Polymorph

    Justice

    Terrorform

    Ouroboros

    Back in the Red, Part 3

    Back to Earth, Part 3

    Lemons

    Give & Take

    Timewave

    #310979
    Nick R
    Participant

    I’ll save Balance of Power, because it’s always been one of my favourite series 1 episodes. The idea of the chef outranking Rimmer and Rimmer impersonating Kochanski are both good jokes.

    Polymorph

    Justice

    Terrorform

    Ouroboros

    Back in the Red, Part 3

    Back to Earth, Part 3

    Lemons

    Give & Take

    Timewave

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