What if Red Dwarf had started in 2006 and not 1987?

[Ian Symes]

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[International Debris]

Any chance we can stop with the non-binary jokes now?

[Pete Tranter’s Sister]

Why?

[International Debris]

Because I’m genderqueer and thus seeing gender dysphoria such as mine used as a punchline of a joke is pretty unpleasant.

[Moonlight]

I agree with Debris.

Bollocking damn and jumbo LimeWire.

[JamesTC]

Queeg: He gets all his answers on astronomy, phenomenology and physics from a single website.
Rimmer: What’s the website?
Queeg: BBC Bitesize. It’s the only one he can find which has pictures.

[Pete Tranter’s Sister]

International Debris, no, you’re not.

Groovy YouTube Channel 27.

[International Debris]

We live in a society in which transphobia is still tolerated to a reasonable extent, and despite the acceptance of people being outside the gender binary having existed in myriad cultures throughout history, I know it’s something that a lot of people are still unhappy with in modern western society. I’m not interested in an argument on the matter or anything of the kind, which is simply why I asked politely if you could not make any more jokes. Whether you believe gender dysphoria like mine is a genuine thing or just me being a loony, one way or another it’s something that affects my mental wellbeing on a daily basis and therefore I’d prefer it if you’d have the compassion to take my feelings into account. Thanks.

[JamesTC]

You’re clearly being a cunt on purpose, PTS. You’ve been given the benefit of the doubt before but clearly you are.

[Phil]

Yeah, you’re going out of the way to be shitty at this point. If your goal is to make sure nobody misses you the next time you inevitably quit the forum, though, you’re doing great.

[Ridley]

You might get words associated with an apology but I think the sincerity costs extra.

[International Debris]

I’m realistic about it; I’ve accepted that a lot of people will be skeptical about something that seemingly goes against what society at large teaches them. I’m happy with my own gender identity – especially after learning it’s something that’s existed throughout history – and that’s what matters. I don’t expect societal reform on my behalf. If someone believes my gender dysphoria is real, or whether it’s ‘all in my head’, that’s up to them. But I just ask that they accept that *I* believe I’m genderqueer. I always try to be a decent, open minded and unmalicious person, and in return I only hope that people don’t make me the butt of spiteful jokes.

I’m not a teenager who’s adopted a gender identity as part of a lifestyle to attract attention and provocation. I hate arguing about gender; I barely mention it online; and much as I don’t like to, I generally dress down to avoid confrontation that can come from looking femme. I know / hope that does break the stereotype that the original jokes were almost certainly made in reference to.

Anyway, I’m not demanding apologies or anything (a sincere apology comes regardless of demand, and an insincere one is pointless), my only request was some sensitivity around targets of jokes. That said, I think I’ll bow out of this thread because, as I say, I generally hate the shit that comes with these kind of arguments. I love G&T because the shared passion for Red Dwarf makes me really happy, and I don’t want to taint that experience with stuff that makes me unhappy.

If, on the off chance, someone wants to discuss this kind of thing with me in any way whatsoever you can probably find me following G&T people on Twitter.

[Pete Tranter’s Sister]

I miss the days when John Hoare would call me a cunt for protesting against the licence fee. It’s all got a bit Tumblr around here. I can’t wrap my head around this multiple gender doo-dah but it was just part of a joke, not the joke itself, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. I’ll curb the gender jokes but some of you have to chill the fuck out.

[Pete Part Three]

Could you not just fuck off all together?

1. Make inappropriate comment
2. Apologise in a shit way
3. React badly when your apology is not accepted because it’s not sincere
4. Threaten to leave
5. Come back 2 days later.

[REPEAT ENDLESSLY]

[Taiwan Tony]

You’re such a hypocrite, PTS, it’s almost impressive.

[Dave]

It’s almost as though making dick comments, trying to turn yourself into the focus of every thread, and constantly declaring that you’re leaving the forum (only to return immediately) is textbook troll behaviour, isn’t it?

It was bad enough that it ruined the Westworld thread, let’s not make it a habit. If PTS really wants to draw a line under the controversy then let’s all move on and maybe PTS can refrain from the dickish behaviour in future. But I would bet money on his next post somehow being about himself and his impact on the forum again.

I think most people here would rather talk about Red Dwarf.

[Ian Symes]

Fuck’s sake. Another thread ruined by this tedious prick. I will not tolerate transphobia, or any other type of prejudice, and I certainly won’t tolerate decent members of this community being made to feel like they have to stop participating as a result of one person being a tosser.

Pete Tranter’s Sister – the very next time you say something that we deem to be needlessly offensive or inappropriate towards a fellow forum member, you’re permanently banned. Plus, I don’t want any back and forth about the rights and wrongs of what you said – it’s 2016, and it’s you that’s out of step, not the rest of us. Either fall in line with literally the only rule of this place (namely: don’t be a dick), or I’ll resolve the issue the easy way.

[Ian Symes]

Anyway:

Hang on, hang on. Someone’s being brought out, they’re tying him to a stake. It’s Iggle Piggle!

[(deleted)]

“If you want me I’ll be in my quarters, covered in Frubes.”

[flanl3]

Tikka would instead be an episode on GWB causing 9/11

[Ian Symes]

The tenth anniversary night, this year, would be hosted by Chris Pine, and feature The Great British Smeg Off and Pointless Universe.

[(deleted)]

Talkie AGA.

[Dave]

“Jamie Kennedy… it’s gotta be…”

[Jo]

Holly, this is Rimmer. Remember me? Rimmer… Arnold Rimmer?
The poor goit you made look like Amy Winehouse.

[Phil]

Is this an iPhone 5s? Does it look even remotely like an iPhone 5s?

*This* is an iPhone 5s, Lister. This is an iPhone 5c. Are you blind?

(puts back wrong iPhone)

[Ben Paddon]

Smoke me a UKIPper, I’ll be back for Brexit.

(Rather shamelessly yoinked from someone on Tumblr, but too good not to share.)

[si]

“But it’s obscene. A book is a thing of beauty. The voice of
freedom, the essence of civilisation”
“‘My Booky Wook’?”

[Smeg4Brains]

The tenth anniversary night, this year, would be hosted by Chris Pine, and feature The Great British Smeg Off and Pointless Universe.

I’d watch the fuck out of that!

[flanl3]

“I’ve just finished reading everything put by anyone on MySpace ever”

[Smeg4Brains]

“…or a herd of flesh-eating dinosaurs feeding off the bones of Sam Neill?”

[Ridley]

“What’s it turned me into?”

*fedora rises above counter*

“A meninist?!”

[Ben Paddon]

“For the last four minutes you have been engaged in the PlayStation VR game, Red Dwarf. And you’ve had to stop because you’re starting to feel queasy.”

[Ridley]

Pre-order the season pass now for unlockable Sheriff Kryten skin and dildonics DLC

[Phobos And Deimos]

Keep writing those YouTube videos with a peak of 20,000 views, kid.

Ommmmmmmmm *VARIOUS DUBSTEP SOUNDS*

[Stephen Abootman]

CAT: Five Gmail invites?
RIMMER: Six Gmail invites!
CAT: Oooowwww!

[Paul Muller]

“I’m not a combination of the Apple Watch, ASOS and Nicky Clarke”

[JamesTC]

Kryten: Digital Versatile Discs, sir. DVD for short. They were really popular in the early part of the 21st century before they died out and were replaced with what we use now.
Lister: What? Nokia Rok Digital Video Chips?
Kryten: Precisely

[Paul Muller]

“He’s never been mistaken for Greg Wallace – he’s not bald and his head doesn’t…um…shwallace.”

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

Well, it’s not exactly female-orientated anymore, not since the the equal-rights-for-men marches. You know, they burned their jockstraps and all that. Haven’t you read “The Male Eunuch” by Piers Morgan

[Paul Muller]

“Come on, Rimmer, the only reason you knocked around with those prats from /r/TheRedPill was you could never get a date.”

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

Are you vaping, Lister? In the drive room!

[Manbird]

“You mean persuade Robert De Niro not to make…?”

Well, the choices are limitless, really.

[Dave]

Limitless would definitely be my choice.

[ReddiShadow]

*Kryten enters wearing one of those cardboard cut out Alan Carr masks and a grey hoodie*
…well, you said ‘look inconspicuous’!”

[Plastic Percy]

“You can’t get ahold of these for love nor money. These are like Venus’ arms! These are like Keira Knightley’s buttocks!”

[bloodteller]

CAPTAIN: Lister, not only are you so stupid you bring aboard an unquarantined animal and jeopardize every man and woman on this ship — not only that — but you take a selfie of yourself with the cat and share it on the crew’s Facebook group. Now, I’m going to ask you again, do you have a cat?

[flanl3]

In 2006?

[bloodteller]

i guess so

[(deleted)]

A webcam screenshot on Bebo, perhaps.

[JamesTC]

He changed it to his MSN Messenger picture.

[flanl3]

He put Frankenstein in his MySpace top 8.

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