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  • #228555
    Ben Saunders
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    Have they done body transplants irl yet? I’m interested to see how the voice changes. Obviously going from a male to female body would change your voice somewhat (right?) and man to man might have less of an effect.

    #228556
    flanl3
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    You do get to keep your head in one

    #228559
    Moonlight
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    Interesting how Skipper implies that mind backups for hologrammatic projection are performed manually, since Lister’s last one was at 23. I always assumed Rimmer remembered everything right up until the moment of his (first) death, but I guess it’s slightly less horrifying not to remember something like that.

    They clearly didn’t think the process through until later. The US pilot has hologram Rimmer saying the last thing he remembers being having his brain scanned, but then later they still recycle the joke about him saying what death feels like.

    Call me crazy, but I’m starting to suspect that the US pilot was kind of a confused pile of rubbish.

    #228561
    clem
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    > they still recycle the joke about him saying what death feels like.

    I’ve always took that to mean what it feels like to be dead, rather than actually dying.

    #228562
    Moonlight
    Participant

    Either way, they clearly had Rimmer remembering up to his death at first.

    #228563
    flanl3
    Participant

    Perhaps the leak/experiment gone wrong knocked out the holodisk recording system. Before the leak, it was recording constantly, so Lister’s last backup was as he entered stasis. The reason why he did his routine from The End in M-Corp is probably just because that’s what he does to annoy Rimmer when he’s 23, it wasn’t a one-time thing.

    #228565
    Dave
    Participant

    Interesting how Skipper implies that mind backups for hologrammatic projection are performed manually,

    I always took this to be the case, probably because the first book describes it this way – there’s the whole bit with Petersen being drunk when he gets his done, meaning that if he ever came back as an hologram he’d have a horrendous hangover.

    #228568
    bloodteller
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    >The US pilot has hologram Rimmer saying the last thing he remembers being having his brain scanned

    ???? the line is “i was biting on a stick in the medical room…then there was a white flash….and i died. oh god, i’m dead” which is surely him recovering in the medical unit after his failed exam and then getting hit by the radiation leak.

    #228569
    Plastic Percy
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    They mention that the escape pod from Rimmerworld has solar accelerators aboard which should provide Rimmer with all the energy he needs to power his hard light drive. Presumably they were able to salvage it when they rescued Rimmer later and it solved all his energy needs.

    #228572
    Moonlight
    Participant

    ???? the line is “i was biting on a stick in the medical room…then there was a white flash….and i died. oh god, i’m dead” which is surely him recovering in the medical unit after his failed exam and then getting hit by the radiation leak.

    I took that to be a DNA test or some shit to replicate him as a hologram.

    #228573
    Moonlight
    Participant

    Clearly I am projecting logic onto a poorly thought-out mess. Carry on.

    #228578
    bloodteller
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    i mean he later recognises kryten when they find him so his hologram must have been after they met him.

    i think it’s meant to be that his hologram is from straight after his death, given that he explicitly states he remembers dying

    #228609
    Ben Saunders
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    If a disabled person was brought back as a hologram, would they “fix” the disability? If it was a stutter, social anxiety, a broken leg, brain damage? Would it be considered ethical to “fix” someone when they were dead? Presumably you could get (posthumous) consent from them.

    #228610
    Ben Saunders
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    I was about to ask if disability has been cured by the time of Red Dwarf, but ironically enough Cured shows the answer to be no, as the crew aren’t suspicious of somebody being in a wheelchair.

    #228615
    Flap Jack
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    My take is that they would be able to fix a hologram’s pre-mortem physical disabilities if they desired but not their mental illnesses, what with brains being inordinately complex and holograms’ minds just being wholesale copies of them.

    I assume that holograms could be given virtual treatments, at least.

    Also, it’s pretty strange that physical disabilities haven’t been cured in the Red Dwarf universe, because apparently even cleaning robots come with nanobots which are capable not only of rebuilding missing limbs, but of invoking the power of Satan to bring people from ancient history back to life.

    #228616
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    >but not their mental illnesses, what with brains being inordinately complex and holograms’ minds just being wholesale copies of them.
    What about things like draining Rimmer’s negativity in Trojan, or loading in his Charisma etc in Psirens? If you can delete negativity can you delete schizophrenia?

    #228621
    Warbodog
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    Personality tuck machine in Can of Worms.

    #228622
    Flap Jack
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    What about things like draining Rimmer’s negativity in Trojan, or loading in his Charisma etc in Psirens? If you can delete negativity can you delete schizophrenia?

    Personality tuck machine in Can of Worms.

    These seem like pretty good examples of how mental illnesses could be virtually treated, but not necessarily removed outright.

    IMO, they should only be able to treat mental illnesses in holograms to the extent that they theoretically could treat them in living human beings, so mood alterations or experimental personality shifts are doable, but you can’t just move BodyDysmorphicDisorder.exe to the Recycle Bin.

    #228647
    flanl3
    Participant

    Why, in Cured, were the crew baffled that four people could be brought back when they literally witnessed it happening to 1167 people?

    #228654
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    Because Series VIII took place in an alternate universe where Red Dwarf was a farce

    #228685
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Death is now the handicap it used to be in the old days.

    #228689
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    >Why, in Cured, were the crew baffled that four people could be brought back when they literally witnessed it happening to 1167 people?

    to be fair, it’s a lot more impressive to revive Hitler and Stalin than Selby and Chen.

    #228690
    Dave
    Participant

    Not so impressive when you’ve already met Hitler. And a droid Hitler.

    #228696
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    Is it really more impressive to revive somebody from 3,000,200 years ago than just 3,000,005?

    #228995
    Dollar Pound
    Participant

    iguana call back

    #228996
    Dollar Pound
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    jump cuts

    #228997
    Dollar Pound
    Participant

    no rice

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