What would you expect of Red Dwarf XIII?

[flanl3]

With reassurance that Red Dwarf XIII will happen at every turn despite no actual confirmation that there will be a Red Dwarf XIII, it seems like approximately the appropriate time to start this thread.

If we do actually get a Red Dwarf XIII, what would you want out of it? Would you want it to have a bit of an arc to it or would you want it to be entirely separate episodes? Would you want it to remain six half-hours? Would you want it to keep to the (mostly) traditional format or try something different for a change?

Most importantly, in what way should an explosion be forced into the series to enable them to put one in the title sequence?

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[flanl3]

You do get to keep your head in one

[Moonlight]

Interesting how Skipper implies that mind backups for hologrammatic projection are performed manually, since Lister’s last one was at 23. I always assumed Rimmer remembered everything right up until the moment of his (first) death, but I guess it’s slightly less horrifying not to remember something like that.

They clearly didn’t think the process through until later. The US pilot has hologram Rimmer saying the last thing he remembers being having his brain scanned, but then later they still recycle the joke about him saying what death feels like.

Call me crazy, but I’m starting to suspect that the US pilot was kind of a confused pile of rubbish.

[clem]

> they still recycle the joke about him saying what death feels like.

I’ve always took that to mean what it feels like to be dead, rather than actually dying.

[Moonlight]

Either way, they clearly had Rimmer remembering up to his death at first.

[flanl3]

Perhaps the leak/experiment gone wrong knocked out the holodisk recording system. Before the leak, it was recording constantly, so Lister’s last backup was as he entered stasis. The reason why he did his routine from The End in M-Corp is probably just because that’s what he does to annoy Rimmer when he’s 23, it wasn’t a one-time thing.

[Dave]

Interesting how Skipper implies that mind backups for hologrammatic projection are performed manually,

I always took this to be the case, probably because the first book describes it this way – there’s the whole bit with Petersen being drunk when he gets his done, meaning that if he ever came back as an hologram he’d have a horrendous hangover.

[bloodteller]

>The US pilot has hologram Rimmer saying the last thing he remembers being having his brain scanned

???? the line is “i was biting on a stick in the medical room…then there was a white flash….and i died. oh god, i’m dead” which is surely him recovering in the medical unit after his failed exam and then getting hit by the radiation leak.

[Plastic Percy]

They mention that the escape pod from Rimmerworld has solar accelerators aboard which should provide Rimmer with all the energy he needs to power his hard light drive. Presumably they were able to salvage it when they rescued Rimmer later and it solved all his energy needs.

[Moonlight]

???? the line is “i was biting on a stick in the medical room…then there was a white flash….and i died. oh god, i’m dead” which is surely him recovering in the medical unit after his failed exam and then getting hit by the radiation leak.

I took that to be a DNA test or some shit to replicate him as a hologram.

[Moonlight]

Clearly I am projecting logic onto a poorly thought-out mess. Carry on.

[bloodteller]

i mean he later recognises kryten when they find him so his hologram must have been after they met him.

i think it’s meant to be that his hologram is from straight after his death, given that he explicitly states he remembers dying

[Ben Saunders]

If a disabled person was brought back as a hologram, would they “fix” the disability? If it was a stutter, social anxiety, a broken leg, brain damage? Would it be considered ethical to “fix” someone when they were dead? Presumably you could get (posthumous) consent from them.

[Ben Saunders]

I was about to ask if disability has been cured by the time of Red Dwarf, but ironically enough Cured shows the answer to be no, as the crew aren’t suspicious of somebody being in a wheelchair.

[Flap Jack]

My take is that they would be able to fix a hologram’s pre-mortem physical disabilities if they desired but not their mental illnesses, what with brains being inordinately complex and holograms’ minds just being wholesale copies of them.

I assume that holograms could be given virtual treatments, at least.

Also, it’s pretty strange that physical disabilities haven’t been cured in the Red Dwarf universe, because apparently even cleaning robots come with nanobots which are capable not only of rebuilding missing limbs, but of invoking the power of Satan to bring people from ancient history back to life.

[Ben Saunders]

>but not their mental illnesses, what with brains being inordinately complex and holograms’ minds just being wholesale copies of them.
What about things like draining Rimmer’s negativity in Trojan, or loading in his Charisma etc in Psirens? If you can delete negativity can you delete schizophrenia?

[Warbodog]

Personality tuck machine in Can of Worms.

[Flap Jack]

What about things like draining Rimmer’s negativity in Trojan, or loading in his Charisma etc in Psirens? If you can delete negativity can you delete schizophrenia?

Personality tuck machine in Can of Worms.

These seem like pretty good examples of how mental illnesses could be virtually treated, but not necessarily removed outright.

IMO, they should only be able to treat mental illnesses in holograms to the extent that they theoretically could treat them in living human beings, so mood alterations or experimental personality shifts are doable, but you can’t just move BodyDysmorphicDisorder.exe to the Recycle Bin.

[flanl3]

Why, in Cured, were the crew baffled that four people could be brought back when they literally witnessed it happening to 1167 people?

[Ben Saunders]

Because Series VIII took place in an alternate universe where Red Dwarf was a farce

[Pete Part Three]

Death is now the handicap it used to be in the old days.

[bloodteller]

>Why, in Cured, were the crew baffled that four people could be brought back when they literally witnessed it happening to 1167 people?

to be fair, it’s a lot more impressive to revive Hitler and Stalin than Selby and Chen.

[Dave]

Not so impressive when you’ve already met Hitler. And a droid Hitler.

[Ben Saunders]

Is it really more impressive to revive somebody from 3,000,200 years ago than just 3,000,005?

[Dollar Pound]

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