Home › Forums › Ganymede & Titan Forum › Where's the bomb? Search for: This topic has 37 replies, 11 voices, and was last updated 4 years, 5 months ago by bloodteller. Scroll to bottom Viewing 38 posts - 1 through 38 (of 38 total) Author Posts February 21, 2018 at 11:43 am #228131 q u i n n _ d r u m m e rParticipant So, has it ever struck anyone else as a bit weird that Red Dwarf initially had a self destruct bomb? What possible situation could possibly occur, running up and down the solar system (or if Skipper is to be believed, up and down the entire galaxy in 6 months) carrying rock around, where the Captain would opt to blow the entire ship to pieces? February 21, 2018 at 12:27 pm #228133 bloodtellerParticipant when lister and rimmer get on his nerves a bit too much February 21, 2018 at 12:36 pm #228134 q u i n n _ d r u m m e rParticipant You mean like, the Captain could have chosen to self destruct Red Dwarf rather than put Lister in stasis for not giving over Frankenstein? February 21, 2018 at 1:11 pm #228136 bloodtellerParticipant yes but that would be troublesome February 21, 2018 at 1:24 pm #228138 DaveParticipant Presumably, given its size, if Red Dwarf ever had some kind of navigation malfunction that locked it into a course where it might collide with an inhabited planet or moon, then it could cause death and destruction on a massive scale. In that situation, it might be safer to blow it up before it hit. February 21, 2018 at 1:28 pm #228140 Flap JackParticipant I bet if Lister hadn’t survived the radiation leak, Holly’s protocol would have been to trigger the self-destruct, to ensure that no other people would try to approach the ship and die from exposure to the radiation. February 21, 2018 at 3:10 pm #228141 q u i n n _ d r u m m e rParticipant Ok, so Dave’s point makes some sense. Flap Jack … surely Holly could just park outside the solar system and send out a distress call / message to notify anyone not to approach. In fact, why not do that anyway? It may have even been possible, using mechanoids, to launch a rescue mission to retrieve Lister. Somehow extract the stasis booth intact and get it off the ship then let him out. February 21, 2018 at 3:18 pm #228144 bloodtellerParticipant holly fell asleep at the wheel February 21, 2018 at 6:23 pm #228150 Ben SaundersParticipant Holly’s got a poor iq for a glass of water February 21, 2018 at 6:41 pm #228151 International DebrisParticipant I bet if Lister hadn’t survived the radiation leak, Holly’s protocol would have been to trigger the self-destruct, to ensure that no other people would try to approach the ship and die from exposure to the radiation. Which would lead to a LOT of radioactive debris (a friend of mine) flying around. Although primarily a mining ship, obviously the JMC was happy to let parts of Red Dwarf be used by other aspects of the Space Corp, hence the prisoners, the scientists who created the matter paddle, etc. There could always potentially be something worth protecting enough to destroy the ship. February 21, 2018 at 7:58 pm #228159 q u i n n _ d r u m m e rParticipant Maybe Red Dwarf isn’t a mining ship at all (where are all the miners?) and it’s actually a cover for a top secret intergalactic Government research ship. Floor 13 isn’t a prison but rather an a Zimbardo style prison experiment. Birdman is research into the effects on space travel and solitary confinement on an insane sparrow loving old man It would explain all the science decks with extremely capable prototype equipment and how Holly was able to fashion a universe hoping device that allows them to return home, something Ace’s dimension couldn’t guarantee. The whole thing is a complete cover up. Only the officers know the true meaning of the mission and why nobody at all panics when the end up dead and then revived 3million years into deep space. It’s because its exactly the crazy shit that could potentially happen on a ship designed to research weird spacey things. February 21, 2018 at 8:15 pm #228164 flanl3Participant It wasn’t a drive plate that blew, it was another experiment and that’s how they covered it up. February 21, 2018 at 8:57 pm #228167 DaveParticipant It’s not really three million years later, the whole thing is just a big practical joke the rest of the crew is playing on Lister. They let him out after a few days in stasis and made up all the radiation leak/mass death stuff, and got someone to dress up as a Cat-person to add to the gag. They’re all still hiding on Z deck. February 21, 2018 at 9:12 pm #228169 HamishParticipant It’s all in the Captain’s message. It’s all in the microdot. February 21, 2018 at 9:24 pm #228171 q u i n n _ d r u m m e rParticipant It’s a blatant clue isn’t it. Red Dwarf being a mining vessel and not being able to mine. February 21, 2018 at 9:43 pm #228174 DaveParticipant Are you seriously telling me you watched the mining version of Red Dwarf? For thirty years? Oooh, that’s a classic, that is. February 21, 2018 at 9:54 pm #228177 q u i n n _ d r u m m e rParticipant Well that’s the final irony isn’t it. Lister the ultimate space adventurer actually turns out to be a miner. February 21, 2018 at 10:42 pm #228187 flanl3Participant Somebody alert the press. This is the biggest story since the Red Dwarf theme had lyrics. February 21, 2018 at 10:44 pm #228189 flanl3Participant Well, at least since somebody unearthed the secret of Back to Earth. That one really blew my mind. February 21, 2018 at 11:57 pm #228198 bloodtellerParticipant >Red Dwarf isn’t a mining ship at all (where are all the miners?) and it’s actually a cover for a top secret intergalactic Government research ship. but the ship has loads of mining equipment on it: the bazookoids, the mining laser from BTE etc. so there was evidently some mining going on somewhere at some point in some area of the ship February 22, 2018 at 12:02 am #228199 bloodtellerParticipant >It’s not really three million years later, the whole thing is just a big practical joke the rest of the crew is playing on Lister. They let him out after a few days in stasis and made up all the radiation leak/mass death stuff, and got someone to dress up as a Cat-person to add to the gag. They’re all still hiding on Z deck. actually they got him to lick an envelope and he’s been in an AR machine within an AR machine for the last 3 decades because the captain wants to know where lister hid the cat. so far all he has discovered is that lister is under the bizarre delusion that the captain of a mining ship used to be a donut boy February 22, 2018 at 12:17 am #228200 flanl3Participant but the ship has loads of mining equipment on it: the bazookoids, the mining laser from BTE etc. so there was evidently some mining going on somewhere at some point in some area of the ship They had to keep everyone fooled somehow. February 22, 2018 at 7:19 am #228209 q u i n n _ d r u m m e rParticipant Lister in an AR machine within an AR machine would explain how a Knight was able to escape an AR machine. It’s AR inception February 22, 2018 at 7:46 am #228212 MoonlightParticipant I bet if Lister hadn’t survived the radiation leak, Holly’s protocol would have been to trigger the self-destruct, to ensure that no other people would try to approach the ship and die from exposure to the radiation. Explode the ship, sending radioactive material flying in every direction instead of keeping it contained in one spot. How safe. February 22, 2018 at 8:11 am #228214 DaveParticipant That just makes it sound even more like something Holly would do. February 22, 2018 at 7:22 pm #228267 Plastic PercyParticipant I guess it would be a possible anti-terrorist protocol, stop the ship and it’s valuable cargo of mining ore, convicts and four-thousand-six-hundred-and-ninety-one haggis falling into the hands of space pirates, GELFs and Simulants. February 22, 2018 at 8:46 pm #228279 Ben SaundersParticipant Flying into the sun would probably be the best thing to do if Lister didn’t survive February 22, 2018 at 9:30 pm #228283 Flap JackParticipant I mean, I said “I bet” but only like, £2.50. I’ll just spitball some other possible reasons to use a self-destruct, that JMC would definitely prepare for for some reason: The ship’s navigation systems have been irreparably damaged and it’s on a crash course for a major population centre, but there’s a window of opportunity to blow up the ship while it’s still in the outer atmosphere and minimise the total number of deaths. A Xenomorph is loose on the ship. In case of interstellar war breaking out, Red Dwarf could be repurposed as a warship and used in a Kamikaze attack. The thing what I said before, but as a safer implosiony type self-destruction that might be possible in the technologically advanced future. To jumpstart the second big bang. Well, that’s the final irony, isn’t it? Lister, the ultimate atheist, tur- oh, you already did this one. February 22, 2018 at 10:00 pm #228285 flanl3Participant If they’d had enoUGH TRANSPORT SHIPS LIKE A WELL-EQUIPPED VESSEL, THEY WOULD HAVE ALL ESCaped on stARBUGS AND MIDGETS in Only the Good…, and then blOWN THE DAMN THING UP. AND A MINING SHIP BUILT TO ITS ORIGINAL PLANS BEFORE CUTBACKS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH ESCAPE PODS/SHIPS, DOUGLAS. February 22, 2018 at 10:57 pm #228289 DaveParticipant The ship’s navigation systems have been irreparably damaged and it’s on a crash course for a major population centre, but there’s a window of opportunity to blow up the ship while it’s still in the outer atmosphere and minimise the total number of deaths So what is it? February 22, 2018 at 11:18 pm #228291 bloodtellerParticipant >If they’d had enoUGH TRANSPORT SHIPS LIKE A WELL-EQUIPPED VESSEL, THEY WOULD HAVE ALL ESCaped on stARBUGS AND MIDGETS in Only the Good…, and then blOWN THE DAMN THING UP. AND A MINING SHIP BUILT TO ITS ORIGINAL PLANS BEFORE CUTBACKS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH ESCAPE PODS/SHIPS, DOUGLAS. i mean they have enough craft for the main crew to escape, it’s just the prisoners that are left behind. and even then it’s “most” of the prisoners so i guess maybe they took Nigel with them. Nigel is nice February 22, 2018 at 11:20 pm #228292 q u i n n _ d r u m m e rParticipant I wish Nigel had been a regular character February 22, 2018 at 11:35 pm #228295 siParticipant He was nice. February 23, 2018 at 8:34 pm #228363 bloodtellerParticipant if you look closely, Nigel appears again in the cinema scene in Krytie TV so i guess he is sort of regualr February 23, 2018 at 8:36 pm #228364 bloodtellerParticipant maybe he appears elsewhere in VIII too? it’s like a really weird version of Where’s Wally February 23, 2018 at 10:38 pm #228371 siParticipant Nigel appears again in the cinema scene in Krytie TV Nigel’s nice. ,blockquote> it’s like a really weird version of Where’s Wally Wally’s a cunt. February 23, 2018 at 10:39 pm #228372 siParticipant Oh, blah blah edit. February 24, 2018 at 6:18 pm #228397 bloodtellerParticipant honestly i think i would’ve liked VIII a bit more if Nigel had a more prominent role. i mean he’s definitely preferable to Baxter, who is just boring, and Kill Crazy, who is good in Cassandra but then after that he’s a bit crap and also weren’t all the other Canaries supposed to be dead? 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