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  • #207169
    Jonsmad
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    #207170
    peas_and_corn
    Participant

    12 pints in a night will get them wasted? Pussies.

    #207171
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    That looks bloody awesome.

    #207172
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Obviously.

    #207173
    si
    Participant

    Yep, that’s my annual cinema visit sorted. (It was Cabin in the Woods last year, if you’re interested)

    Pegg/Frost movies are the only ones I *have* to see on day of release. I’ve still got my tickets from Shaun, Fuzz and Paul – I always shove them in the DVD sleeve when it comes out.

    #207174
    NoFro
    Participant

    Don’t think I could be anymore excited for this film. I’m sure I’m not the only person on this site who has been waiting for this for what feels like an eternity. Was it first announced around the release of Hot Fuzz?

    To be fair though, when you’re a Red Dwarf fan half a decade doesn’t seem like that long to have to wait for something.

    #207176
    takerdemon
    Participant

    Is it bad that whilst I’m excited about this, I’m kinda sad this thread wasn’t about the pub in Camden of the same name?

    #207177
    Stephen R. Fletcher
    Participant

    Can’t wait for this! Even though the release date has been pushed a month forward, it still can’t come soon enough!

    #207178
    MANI506
    Participant

    Brilliant, this and the Partridge movie are must sees this year.

    #207180
    Connell
    Participant

    Cannot wait for this. Pegg and Frost films are always of such high quality… excluding Paul (am I the only one that couldn’t stand that atrocity?) Massive Shaun and Fuzz fan, hoping this one lives up to the expectations!

    #207181
    MANI506
    Participant

    Paul wasn’t terrible but this should be up to standard because Wright is back.

    #207182
    NoFro
    Participant

    I have a lot of time for Paul, though it isn’t as great as their work with Wright.

    #207183
    si
    Participant

    ^ What they said.

    #207187
    Connell
    Participant

    Edgar Wright is a fantastic director, and an excellent tweeter also. Of course no one can expect Pegg and Frost to stay in the obscurity of cult classics forever, but Paul just really didn’t hit the mark for me. I suppose it was a good American flick, entertaining at times, one to stick on the shelf, merely to receive the old ‘oh yeah i’ve seen that, it’s alright’. However, I was hoping for something more clever and memorable, witty and pleasing to watch like the gems that are Fuzz and Shaun. You can tell someone poured their heart and soul into those films to make them the best they could be.

    #207190
    Karnie
    Participant

    I agree with Connell (except I would argue the part about it being a good American flick), it just lacked the energy and brains of Shaun and Fuzz. While the first two were brilliant genre spoof films, Paul (and to a lesser degree Run, Fatboy Run) were OK comedies, just not good Simon Pegg films. I have cautious optimism that World’s End will return to the magic of the earlier films.

    #207218
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Couldn’t stand Paul, thought it was dull and lifeless. Traded off the good will of previous Frost/Pegg collaborations but offered nothing remotely new or interesting.

    I, uh, didn’t like Scott Pilgrim either. [ducks].

    SotD, I dearly love. Hot Fuzz is a notch below and I have a few niggles with, but still good.

    Not really feeling much with this trailer. Great cast, though.

    #207219
    si
    Participant

    I think Fuzz is better than Shaun, actually. The quality of the cast is amazing.

    Watched it on ITV2 recently for the first time in ages, and had completely forgotten that Olivia Colman was in it.

    #207220
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I have a greater fondness for Shaun, but recognise Hot Fuzz as the better film. But they’re both masterpieces.

    #207221
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I always get the impression that Hot Fuzz is about twice as long as it actually is, due to the relentless editing and intricate story.

    And, if I’m being really nit-picky, I also find the gory bits misplaced. I’m not squeamish and am fond of a bit of splatter, I just don’t know what it’s doing in Hot Fuzz.

    Tim Messenger’s (hey hey!) death is nodding towards The Omen and would be fine in Shaun because it would be fitting for the genre…but, aside from Robocop, I can’t think of any overly gory action films.

    I have no such complaints about SotD. It bounces along at a great pace and everything just, well, works.

    #207222
    si
    Participant

    >fond of a bit of splatter

    Fnaar fnaar.

    #207223
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    You know, I was going to put “(stop making up your own jokes)” after that, but I thought this website had matured a lot recently. What a shame.

    #207224
    si
    Participant

    Has it bollocks.

    #207225
    anniescribe
    Participant

    I was at The World’s End today. Random trivia only, considering it’s about 5,000 miles from my usual haunts.

    #207226
    anniescribe
    Participant

    I was at The World’s End today. Random trivia only, considering it’s about 5,000 miles from my usual haunts.

    #207227
    MANI506
    Participant

    I think there’s an Easter Egg music video on the VIII DVD set at The World’s End in Camden with Craig, Danny and Norman. In fact I’m sure there is.

    #207228
    Ridley
    Participant

    The Intro2 video?

    #207229
    MANI506
    Participant

    Yeah that’s the one!

    #207232
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I remember those guys incessantly pestering me about covering their song on The White Hole. I wonder what they’re doing now.

    #207233
    Ridley
    Participant

    I didn’t even know you could sing, Cappsy. ;)

    #207235
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    > I can’t think of any overly gory action films.

    Starship Troopers?

    #207265
    Stephen R. Fletcher
    Participant

    > I have a greater fondness for Shaun, but recognise Hot Fuzz as the better film. But they’re both masterpieces.

    Pretty much my feelings, too.

    I quite like ‘Paul’. It’s not as good as the works Pegg and Frost did with Edgar Wright but I still really like it.

    #207266
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Yeah, I enjoyed Paul. It’s a little less “niche”, and they acknowledge this themselves on the Bluray (for the kind of budget they needed to make the movie it had to be a little more accessible for general audiences so it stood a chance of making a profit), but I have a real soft spot for it.

    #207455
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    I really like Paul. It’s a love letter to the Spielberg/ILM-era of sci-fi films. That spaceship at the end just fills me with Douglas Trumbull-like joy.

    It’s a cracking film with an excellent CGI protagonist, which is difficult to pull off with a budget film, and he has genuine character.

    it’s certainly not perfect but it’s action packed enough and got enough geeky humour without being offensive, and I doubt it would have got to that point with Pegg and Frost writing.

    I’m looking forward to the World’s End though, although it’s a film that’s gone in a direction I wasn’t expecting. I had this same experience with Hot Fuzz, I genuinely didnt know that Hot Fuzz was a slasher film. Did anyone else here not know when they went to the cinema? I’m pretty sure it wasn’t in the trailer (or for some reason i never actually got round to watching them), but I was genuinely shocked when Draper and Blower got their heads stoved in…

    #207460
    MANI506
    Participant

    Yeah, I know what you mean. There was no need for the slasher elements in Hot Fuzz or at least they could have been toned down a bit. I’m guessing Edgar Wright just loves a bit of slop.

    #207461

    Meh, I found Hot Fuzz funnier than Shaun of the Dead, but I guess that comes down to personal taste. The over-the-top style of the gorier parts of HF made it work for me.

    #207593
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    I’m not saying that slasher elements were unnecessary, the fact that these extremely ridiculous deaths were played out in Somerset creates the biggest juxtaposition and in itself is hilarious. My point was that I’m not sure if the whole horror/killer elements was kept low key in the trailer, or was I just terribly naive?

    #207594
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    I’m not saying that slasher elements were unnecessary, the fact that these extremely ridiculous deaths were played out in Somerset creates the biggest juxtaposition and in itself is hilarious. My point was that I’m not sure if the whole horror/killer elements was kept low key in the trailer, or was I just terribly naive?

    #207596
    Phil
    Participant

    I didn’t know it going in, either, Danny. I just expected a funny cop film that would be better than most funny cop films. The only reviews or anything I read beforehand just suggested “something sinister…” in a nice vague way that preserved the surprise.

    I…kinda love the gore in that movie. As well as the fact that there are genuine scares along the way. Still no Shaun, in my eyes, but fantastic all the same.

    #207599

    I had no idea it was going to be as gory as it turned out to be, no. I’m expecting it this time, so maybe World’s End will be entirely devoid of blood. I wouldn’t bet on it though.

    #207615
    redhead85
    Participant

    Loved Shaun of the Dead. Hot Fuzz I only like the first 45 minutes then get horrendously bored. Paul was…..ok. Hoping this one will top the lot!

    “Drink up. The world is about to end.”

    #208823
    Stephen R. Fletcher
    Participant

    So, I saw the film on Friday in it’s first screening at 11AM in AMC Manchester and… I don’t know. I’ve been going round this in my head, wondering if maybe a second viewing would do me good but maybe I’m thinking that because this is the first film by Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright that I don’t think I really like and that’s really bothering me. I was really enjoying it in the middle once the action started but by the time I got to the end of the film, I didn’t feel nearly as satisfied as I did with ‘Shaun of the Dead’ and ‘Hot Fuzz’. I still don’t fully understand it all either and that’s one of the things that’s annoying me.

    It also seemed to be missing something that their other films, ‘Scott Pilgrim vs. the World’ and even ‘Paul’ had.

    #208825
    si
    Participant

    I saw the film Friday afternoon, and yeah, a second viewing is definitely in order. It’s a great, and very funny film, so ‘disappointing’ isn’t the right word, but, as I was saying on Twitter earlier, I just felt oddly dissatisfied by the ending. The action sequences are amazing, no question, and the performances from Pegg and Frost (and the rest of the ensemble, for that matter) are terrific.
    But I also feel that either I, or the film, is missing something.

    #208826
    Phil
    Participant

    I felt a little dissatisfied the first time I saw Hot Fuzz…I still liked it very much, but it took two viewings to really cement itself for me as a masterpiece.

    Here’s hoping that happens here too. I don’t think it’s out in the US yet, but I guess I’ll buy tickets to two showings instead of just one.

    #208827
    si
    Participant

    Well, my brother loves it. Ranked it top of the three. He went to a Trilogy/midnight screening on thursday night, then came with us on friday afternoon, and afterwards said he saw a lot that he’d missed the first time. So…y’know.

    #208828
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    Loved it. Watched it in the west end Saturday.

    It’s not as good as the other two, probably. It’s bigger in FX’s and action than them, characters are perhap a little weaker, and it’s a bit less genre defined going in, and it’s got a bit of a weight over it in terms of similarities to previous films (including some of their wider participating film work since the other two films) but if this the last of them, I sat back and enjoyed the ride.

    I loved peggs character, different and a brilliant performance, from the moments you wanted to hate him, and the moments you didn’t. The Arthurian questing elements. Some of the home truths about growing up or not. Bill nighys involvement I love. I found some of the end plot a hint of douglas adamsness.

    Another exbond, amongst all the familar faces. I love the appearance of cornetto 3. Though the fence gag im not so sure of. And the pacing of the film, is just like that of a pub crawl i think.

    #208830
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Saw it yesterday and absolutely loved it, but I do agree with Si that there maybe feels like there’s something missing. Thinking back, the action scenes were my favourite part and I wonder if it’s that that’s throwing me off, because that’s not been the case with the previous two films.

    Still, it took me a second watch to properly click with Hot Fuzz, too, so I’m not too worried.

    #208831
    NoFro
    Participant

    > Still, it took me a second watch to properly click with Hot Fuzz, too, so I’m not too worried.

    This is my thinking. I haven’t yet seen the film but I’ve seen pretty mixed reviews about the web and all I can think is that I didn’t completely fall in love with Hot Fuzz until the second (or maybe even third) watch. If the reviews were universally negative then I’d be a bit more worried but as the responses I’ve read have been 80% positive (and a lot of them VERY positive) I’m pretty confident that I’ll enjoy it.

    #208832
    anniescribe
    Participant

    Loved Hot Fuzz immediately. The moment where it clicked for me was at the bad play where the cast are singing from the Baz Luhrman movie and Nick’s and Danny’s faces. I laughed myself sick.

    #208834
    Alex
    Participant

    I saw it yesterday and my friend and I both walked out and immediately said ‘well that was very disappointing wasn’t it?’

    As we went through the film it suddenly crossed my mind that this is the last part of the Cornetto Trillogy, yet the popular ice-cream has been entirely absent. Then suddenly a wrapper flies past and you think, ‘ah, that’s sort of a Cornetto I guess. Well that’s that then.’ That was how I felt about the entire film. An odd repeat in many ways if Shaun of the Dead with occasional nods to the previous two films that didn’t amount to much. There were about 2-3 occasions where we actually laughed, but most of the time it at best raised a smile. Not the case for the rest of the audience at our screening, but then they were braying at every use of the word cunt, which came up more than I expected.

    Even then however, it’s too hard to nail what I found wrong with the film down to one or two central problems as there were just so many elements that felt off to me. The intro was too long, the plot took a long time to get going, when it kicked it it felt like 2 different films, the emotional elements felt forced and the ending just felt misplaced. I do think that one of the problems for me was that the Sci-Fi they chose to parody was basically an Invasion of the Bodysnatchers type story, which wouldn’t be a problem if it weren’t for the fact that this creates a lot of the same story points a zombie film does. That meant that all the time the characters moved through their pub crawl you were constantly reminded how much more enjoyable this had been in Shaun of The Dead.

    Perhaps I’ll change my opinion on a re-watch, but I really have no motivation to see it again at the moment. The most irritating part was that it wasn’t even an *awful* film per se, it was just not as good as it should have been from all involved. That said, the film is saved by it’s second half. If it had carried on in the style of the first half I would be far more scathing.

    #208851
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Wow, that’s definitely the first negative review I’ve seen. I’m surprised! Also…

    but then they were braying at every use of the word cunt

    I apologise for nothing.

    #208854
    Jo
    Participant

    but then they were braying at every use of the word cunt

    There was a woman sat near us who gave a running commentary on the trailers, and then once the film started she repeated the last word of every punchline to her boyfriend before laughing. There was a scene when Simon Pegg’s character blew a raspberry, she blew a raspberry and then laughed. I wanted to punch her in the face.

    #208855
    Phil
    Participant

    I think you were wrong not to.

    #208860
    takerdemon
    Participant

    I saw it last week and it’s odd for me to weigh up. When I first saw SotD, I didn’t love it upon my first viewing. I got it on DVD for cheap one Christmas, decided to give it another go and astonishingly, it dawned on me that it was one of the strongest comedy movies of the 21st century.

    Hot Fuzz and The World’s End both had more immediate laughs for me than SotD, although I suspect it’s largely because I “got” the humour by this point. Although, whilst those films both seemed more immediate to me, Fuzz at least feels a lot more hollow than SotD upon repeat viewings. I suspect World will end up being more in the Fuzz camp than SotD.

    That being said though, I laughed a fair old bit so I can’t be too down on it. It’s certainly better than 99% of the supposed comedy that infects our cineplexs each year.

    …and yes Jo, you should have punched her in the face or at least given her a flying dropkick to the neck.

    #208863
    Jo
    Participant

    >I think you were wrong not to.

    >…and yes Jo, you should have punched her in the face or at least given her a flying dropkick to the neck.

    I know. I am full of regret. :-(

    #208864
    pfm
    Participant

    I think the biggest mistake they made was to hype this up years before it was even written and shot. It could never live up to those kinds of expectations. Everyone’s always going to hold this up against Shaun. I don’t know anyone who hasn’t seen Shaun at least 4 times, probably thanks to the number of times it’s been on ITV2…

    I wish it wasn’t connected to Shaun and Fuzz, though it might not have even been greenlit if that was the case. It doesn’t help that I just wanted to slap Pegg’s character through the whole thing (funnily enough that’s how I’ve felt about everything he’s done since Run Fatboy Run…). At least Nick Frost hasn’t gone up his own arse in that way, and he did a good job in World’s End. Maybe it’s midlife crisis time for Pegg??

    #208865
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    > I don’t know anyone who hasn’t seen Shaun at least 4 times, probably thanks to the number of times it’s been on ITV2…

    “Can I get… any of you COCKS!… a drink?”

    #208877
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    I might be alone in this but I slightly preferred TWE to Shaun.

    But I also think Hot Fuzz is ahead of both of them by a huge margin.

    #208879

    I completely agree with Seb on this matter, which makes him right.

    #208880
    si
    Participant

    I also (kind of) agree.
    I definitely think Fuzz is my favourite, but really can’t choose between World’s End and Shaun. I slightly favour Shaun, but think that’s down to familiarity.

    #208893
    takerdemon
    Participant

    Performingmonkey – what did you think of Run Fatboy Run? I remember thinking it was underappreciated at the time; at least a few of the gags were but I’m interested in your take on it. I remember admiring A Fantastic Fear of Everything’ for being different and mildly amusing but I’m not sure I’d go as far as saying I liked it.

    I really need to see Hot Fuzz again, it deserves another appraisal.

    #208894
    Phil
    Participant

    Looks like I have to wait until late August to see it here. :(

    #208937
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Saw it earlier and found it to be the definition of an OK movie which, considering its pedigree, is a bit of a downer. I had no problems with Pegg’s character in the early parts of the film as I assumed he’d actually grow into someone we could root for…but no, he was still selfishly dragging people into mortal danger by the finale. SOTD had a lot of humanity in it and when people died, it hurt. But the thinly drawn characters in this just felt a bit…I dunno…”blank”?

    I agree with Alex that it takes far too long to get going. I enjoyed the early stuff (*much* more than the later stuff) but there’s only the subtlest of hints that there’s something weird going on in this town (compared to SotD where there’s a fantastically judged level of menace early on). If I didn’t know what I’d gone to see, I’d have been perplexed by a fairly radical genre shift so late in the first half.

    The final third is when it really lost me though. The laughs had truly dried up by that point and, the fact that the characters were so pissed (and, as a consequence, rather blasé to the whole thing) meant it was hard to feel any attachment to it.

    Shaun>>>Hot Fuzz>>TWE

    Oh, and I actually quite like Run Fatboy Run. It does what it needs to do rather well. And India de Beaufort is in it. So.

    #209075
    Phil
    Participant

    Saw it today.

    I thought the first third of the film or so was legitimately great…but once it got all action-y it also seemed to get a bit mindless. Unlike Shaun and Hot Fuzz I didn’t think the physical chaos blended well with the character work and insight…it was one or the other.

    It was also really bizarre to me that the characters in the previous films are in these awful situations because…well, they are. They’re stuck, and they’re going to get through it or die trying. In this case though they had every opportunity to walk away, and it’s odd that as a group they didn’t. I buy it for Pegg’s character. I don’t buy it for the others.

    I don’t know. It wasn’t bad, but at some point late in the film I started thinking, man, I really wish there wasn’t a genre shift in this one, because I’d really enjoy this if it actually WERE about a group of friends rediscovering and divorcing their pasts. The bodysnatcher stuff just wasn’t as interesting to me, and as I mentioned — and as is clearly just my opinion — it didn’t complement the more human stuff. It was just some of one thing, then we’ll put that aside so we can do some of something else, and then we’ll put that aside to get back to the first.

    I’d absolutely rank Shaun the highest, with Hot Fuzz giving it a pretty fair run for its money. I’ll see The World’s End a bunch more times, I’m positive, and it’ll grow on me. But I’d be shocked if it came very close to the other two.

    The ending was also pretty lousy, but by that point I wasn’t expecting much else.

    #209570
    Stephen R. Fletcher
    Participant

    So, after getting the DVD for Christmas (then later treating myself to “The Three Flavours Cornetto Trilogy” Blu-ray box set) and watching it another 5 or 6 times over the Christmas holiday, I have to say my view on the film has completely changed. Not only do I love it now but I love it just as much as the other two films and would even call it one of my favourite films of the year.

    Maybe it was catching some of the foreshadowing and other things I missed initially in re-watches (then finding even more with the Trivia Track) and it dawning on me just what a bloody tight script this is – which is odd for me to sort of rediscover with a Pegg & Wright script, since the scripts for ‘Shaun of the Dead’ and ‘Hot Fuzz’ are really no different.

    I think it was also the excitement of going through the extras. They usually do great DVD extras for their films and this one is no different, like the brilliant flip chart and the documentaries. I was also looking forward to listening to a new commentary track by Simon Pegg & Edgar Wright, and another one by Edgar. Any interview or commentaries these guys do for their work (or even just Edgar on his own) make it an even more enjoyable experience and I could listen to them over and over again.

    I’m guess maybe it was a case of the film growing on me and another watch for it to click. I sort of feel embarrassed to admit this now but I didn’t take well to ‘Spaced’ on first watch. I think it took me a while just to get through the first 3 episodes. Then, a few months later when I got to episode 4, I fell in love and “got it”. Now, those episodes I didn’t like on first watch, I love just as much as I love every other episode of the show.

    #209571
    Phil
    Participant

    Glad to hear that. I’ll definitely be picking it up on DVD…I’m just not in a rush to do so. (Though I did see a vanilla box with all three films for $20 or so, and I thought that would have been an excellent buy for people not as features-mad as some of us.)

    #209573
    si
    Participant

    My brother received the Trilogy as a christmas present, so I’m going to have to borrow that, as, over time, I’ve managed to convince myself that I didn’t like it, and I know I did. I just found it disappointing. Hopefully I’ll love it, too, when I see it again.

    #209614
    Phil
    Participant
    #209663
    si
    Participant

    I know you’ll be thrilled to know that I’ve got the Trilogy for my birthday, so I may actually get round to rewatching the movie sometime this week. Maybe I’ll report back when I do.

    #209664
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Watched it again the other week. The beginning is still great, the ending is still shite, the middle is still middling.

    #209665
    Phil
    Participant

    http://www.avclub.com/article/denver-come-drink-and-watch-simon-peggs-new-movie-107113

    Well this sure booked up in about sixty seconds. Shame, it would have been fun to go.

    #209672
    Brayds2006
    Participant

    I only just got around to watching this tonight. I was going to watch it in the cinema last year, but I never got around to it. (I didn’t get around to watching a lot of things in the cinema last year, the only thing I watched in it was the Doctor Who Anniversary, and I’d already seen that on TV earlier in the day.)

    I liked it, I laughed, I appreciated the background music. (There really isn’t enough James and Pulp in Movies and TV.) I was enjoying it up until the massive curveball of an epilogue. That grim post-apocalyptic ending really feels like a hit to the senses and it comes out of nowhere. Despite the name of the film being “The World’s End”, I wasn’t actually expecting an apocalypse.

    I know that all the main characters appear to be happy in the end, but how happy can you be in a world where the sky is literally blanketed with smoke and toxins and there is debris everywhere. The world had become a like something out of a cross between Mad Max and any disaster movie from the last 20 years. I know that people have other people to spend their non-societal lives with, but a life locked inside an abandoned dirty building is still a life locked inside an abandoned dirty building, even if you have your mates with you. (Hell is being locked in a room with your friends. Shame about the lack of a penguin puppet though…) Believe it or not, I wouldn’t mind the apocalypse part if only they had retained some of the lovely landscape. It would help in an apocalypse if you were able to look to the sky occasionally and feel for that one moment that the world hadn’t ended and that life was still the way it was. But you can’t do that if the atmosphere is filled with fucking smog. Okay I need to calm down about the smoke, I’m reading too much into that bit.

    It’s not just the look though, most of humanity seem to have turned into angry bikers (without bikes, though I’m sure bicycles still exist. Angry Bicyclists). Even if some of the characters are running farms in piece or living in a nice shack, most of humanity appear to have turned into a bunch of rabid angered skinheads. I know the film highlights the point that humans are uncultured, but at this point I’m wondering if falling in line with the rest of the galaxy should have been the way to go. But that’s obviously not the right answer, because then we lose the freedom of choice and elements of free will. But then again Earth is fucked at the end and society is dead in the water. But then again…

    Shit, I don’t think any of what I’ve said has made sense. This moral dilemma is doing my head in. Besides the last 10 minutes of the film it really is a good film. Without that part it would have sat alongside the other two in the Cornetrillogy. (You can keep that.) Maybe it still does. It’s just that ending is a curveball and has possibly ruined it for me. I really hope not. Like the rest of you, I’ll give it a rewatch at some point and I hope my opinion will have changed.

    Funny film though. 9/10, would recommend.

    #209677
    si
    Participant

    I think the post apocalyptic ending is what spoilt it for me. That and the fact that I prefer Gary as the twat he is through the film rather than that epilogue.

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