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  • #261464
    si
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    and why would he decide to paint his entire feet during the prison’s dedicated toenail painting hour

    To be fair, that’s such a stupid gag that it always makes me smile.

    #261465
    Renegade Rob
    Participant

    and why would he decide to paint his entire feet during the prison’s dedicated toenail painting hour

    Painting his foot sportscar red was just his midlife crisis starting to manifest.

    #261976
    GlenTokyo
    Participant

    I think the Lego Red Dwarf stuff that people try to make happen is crap.

    Soz Bob

    #261977

    I saw a Starbug one recently and it’s really uninspired as it’s just an exercise in how to make spheres out of square green bricks.

    The bunk rooms/sets are ok but for the most part lack any interesting details and are generally quite small.

    A large Red Dwarf itself might be interesting as you’d have all different things jutting out of it, and if you’re really clever, could have little landing bays to put small Starbugs and Blue Midgets, but you’d still ultimately end up with a big red brick at the end of it all.

    #261980
    GlenTokyo
    Participant

    It’s not even close to being the correct shade of green either.

    It’s water butt from a garden centre green.

    If we’re having playsets I’d rather people were asking Revell or something.

    The Lego ones, particularly Starbug are too small to be worthwhile. If it was twice the size and self supporting it’d be impressive, but as it is, nah.

    The blue midget one is more impressive because it stands on its own legs, but because of the scale it looks like it could double as ED 209 or an AT-ST aswell as Blue Midget.

    I’ve seen a large Red Dwarf, the cut down pencil and that was big enough that it read properly, but it’s not doable for a kit. It was about 3-4 foot long and probably cost a couple of grand in Lego.

    #261983
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Remember when there was a Red Dwarf level in Lego Dimensions, but instead of getting its own dedicated story or chracters, it was just a small secret area buried in a Fantastic Beasts story pack?

    So not only playing second fiddle to a fantasy series written by a transphobe, but playing second fiddle to a sub-par spin-off of a fantasy series written by a transphobe. The ultimate insult.

    #261988
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    I think the Lego Red Dwarf stuff that people try to make happen is crap.

    I think I’d be better inclined towards it all if it didn’t take up every other post on my #reddwarf Twitter search and all the Dwarfy Facebook groups whenever they’re pushing for votes. And the thing is, for better or worse, even if it gets the requisite number of votes to trigger it being put to the panel, it’s never going to happen. There is not a chance in hell that Red Dwarf is a well known or profitable enough brand to get the full Lego treatment.

    #261991
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    UKTV/GNP should just make their own off-Brand Red Dwarf toy construction sets.

    Smego

    OK, that name’s not exactly inspired, but it’s a decent starting point.

    #261997
    tombow
    Participant

    such a stupid waste of time. Lego Bill n’ Ted mall or Fraiser Crane Apartment/Studio is where it’s at

    #262002
    GlenTokyo
    Participant

    I think the Lego Red Dwarf stuff that people try to make happen is crap.

    I think I’d be better inclined towards it all if it didn’t take up every other post on my #reddwarf Twitter search and all the Dwarfy Facebook groups whenever they’re pushing for votes. And the thing is, for better or worse, even if it gets the requisite number of votes to trigger it being put to the panel, it’s never going to happen. There is not a chance in hell that Red Dwarf is a well known or profitable enough brand to get the full Lego treatment.

    It’s everywhere. Same few pictures every couple of weeks, still not bothered.

    I don’t get why people are so keen on it, I know Red Dwarf isn’t Channel 4 News or Broadchurch or anything, but I still don’t think Lego or funko bastard pops fit at all.

    I want a 1:48 scale resin Starbug or a remote control Skutter that looks nice on a shelf, not some fat headed blob people and a bit of Lego.

    /rant

    #262003
    Dax101
    Participant

    The Promised Land again has some more dramatic elements, but the three main series have felt to me as much ‘straight comedy’ as any of the Rob era episodes.

    The Co-Rob era wasnt afraid to balance out comedy, sci-fi, pathos and dramtic elements. the Dave era is definitely trying to be more funny more than anything else. there seems to be a comedy payoff to almost everything that happens in the Dave Era. its not quite brave enough to let pathos just have its moment.

    And when we do get pathos and dramatic elements in The Promise Land, it feels more like its there because its a tv film that needs to be something abit different. and people gave praise to the Moonlight pathos almost like Red Dwarf hasn’t had these elements before when really its had many like this. just not in a long time.

    #262326
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    I think The Promised Land would’ve worked better as a single-camera, no studio audience affair, to be honest.

    I also think that, as good as the sun/moonlight scene was, the dialogue was in dire need of another pass. Solid idea, wonky dialogue.

    #262329
    Sofajockey
    Participant

    The end of Back to Earth is the only genuinely moving moment in Red Dwarf history. I proper welled up.

    #262336
    tombow
    Participant

    what about this?

    That episode, “Terrorform,” which ends with the crew facing the monster of Rimmer’s self-loathing, made me cry so hard as a teenager that I refused to watch it again for nearly 20 years. It remains the purest expression of my psyche available on modern TV.)

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/3da7a9/struggling-to-grow-older-with-my-favorite-childhood-sci-fi-show-red-dwarf

    #262338
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Interesting article. The stuff about the characters being in stasis is broadly true and my big problem with a lot of the new episodes is that they don’t really embrace the ages of the actors/characters, because if you’re going to make new Red Dwarf, don’t just give us old Red Dwarf reheated.

    But to say that the show doesn’t *occasionally* do that is untrue. I love the stuff about Lister turning 50 in M-Corp for much the same reason that I detested Lister’s claiming that Kochanski is 30 and still moping about her in Entangled. One is the the show embracing the ages of the cast, the other is the show desperately trying to pretend things are how they used to be.

    Likewise, while Cat needing glasses in Mechocracy clearly wasn’t substantial enough to justify more than a few lines, it’s preferable to the bits in X, XI and XII where Danny does S1,S2 screeches and twirls.

    #262340

    Yeah, you don’t have to fundamentally change the characters to acknowledge the fact they’ve aged.

    #262366
    Dax101
    Participant

    I think its best not to acknowledge the ages of the characters. mostly because they need the audience to feel there is still life in this. still youth and energy and that the characters can still go on adventures and face threats ect ect. but the moment you start acknowledging the character’s ages is the moment the audience starts saying yikes they are getting old or this show has been going too long.

    I think if you can make the audience forget the casts getting older. its better for the show.

    Although the Cat only needed glasses because Doug needed to find an excuse for the Cat would help rimmer. which would be very out of character if it wasn’t for blackmail.

    #262385
    si
    Participant

    The Promised Land directly referenced the characters’ ages, and it was the best Dwarf in years.

    #262386

    Yeah I’ve no problem with the ages thing and it being mentioned. There’s a wealthy of comedy and story to be pulled from these guys being old now. Especially Lister who has lived “alone” on Red Dwarf longer than he was alive prior to the accident.

    They’ve all grown as characters too in one way or another so it’d be daft to ignore the fact they’ve grown in age too.

    #262389
    Dave
    Participant

    Yep, completely agree. Not only is it more honest to acknowledge that none of these characters are in their twenties any more, but it also opens up ideas that wouldn’t have been possible for the show to effectively handle in the past.

    Episodes like Krysis or Fathers and Suns wouldn’t have worked the same with a young cast, and episodes like Skipper and Promised Land have got a lot of mileage out of these characters having long relationships that are different and more complex than in the early days.

    #262391
    Dax101
    Participant

    Its abit like the OT Star trek movies. After wrath of Khan they stopped mentioning how the characters were getting older. And i think thats because it starts to get sad after a while. Especially if you want to keep making more.

    #262392

    There’s just a balance to strike isn’t there. Don’t acknowledge it at all and it’s a bit weird, but take it too far and have Lister with a Zimmer frame and Cat complaining about his prostate and it’s too much.

    #262393
    Dave
    Participant

    He will never need a Zimmer.

    #262394

    Yeah, I don’t think anybody’s asking for Last of the Summer Wine in space, but using their age and the length of their time together to explore particular character ideas and plots – once in a while – is very worthwhile.

    #262457
    Hamish
    Participant

    ike the OT Star trek movies. After wrath of Khan they stopped mentioning how the characters were getting older. And i think thats because it starts to get sad after a while. Especially if you want to keep making more.

    “Is it possible, that we two, you and I, have grown so old, and so inflexible, that we have outlived our usefulness?”
    – Spock to Kirk, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

    #262458
    Dax101
    Participant

    ike the OT Star trek movies. After wrath of Khan they stopped mentioning how the characters were getting older. And i think thats because it starts to get sad after a while. Especially if you want to keep making more.

    “Is it possible, that we two, you and I, have grown so old, and so inflexible, that we have outlived our usefulness?”
    – Spock to Kirk, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

    I knew someone would bring up VI. but that was planned as their last movie. it was a send-off movie, so it made sense to acknowledge the longevity. but when they didn’t know when it was gonna stop, basically III-V. They didn’t mention it, because they wanted to keep them feeling as youthful as possible even though they were around middle age.

    Infact Kirk apparently needed glasses in Wrath of Khan which he never needed again after. he sold them in Star Trek 4. i guess he got laser surgery between movies.

    #262459
    Hamish
    Participant

    Honestly I think the TNG films are worse offenders when it comes to not coming to terms with the age of the cast. Or their plot lines in subsequent shows.

    As some have pointed out before, it is rather disrespectful to the new tactical officer on the Enterprise-E that Worf can come and take his old station back whenever he pleases.

    #262460

    As some have pointed out before, it is rather disrespectful to the new tactical officer on the Enterprise-E that Worf can come and take his old station back whenever he pleases.

    Well, in First Contact they are literally in the middle of a battle against their greatest enemy, and Worf is a very experienced tactical office, it would be criminal to have him doing anything else in that situation.

    He is also a high ranking officer, potentially also out ranking whoever the tactical office is, so there could be a precedent there too.

    After that though, in the subsequent films, they do have to crow bar him in a little.

    #262471
    evilmorwen
    Participant

    The Motion Picture was the big time-passing-denier in the Star Trek movies, mind – it was specifically set just a couple of years after the original run ended even though it had been a decade in real life, and then Meyer’s Wrath of Khan, which was made just a short time afterwards makes a big fuss about actually acknowledging the passage of time. The middle films (directed by the cast) then are either about restoring the status quo or (with V) playing in it. VI is Meyer again and goes back to the themes he’d been doing in II.

    When The Final Frontier came out, Shatner was 58, which is wild. That’s how old Tom Cruise is this year, and only two years older than Craig.

    #262493
    si
    Participant

    Don’t give me this Star Trek crap, it’s too early in the morning.

    #262538
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Oh no, a stasis leak in the “Star Trek Crap” G&T forum thread.

    #262539
    si
    Participant

    Fuck that, no more stasis leak gags for me.

    #262540
    GlenTokyo
    Participant

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    #262541
    GlenTokyo
    Participant

    Damn. My hot take on the current state of Star Trek disintegrated when I brought it into this thread.

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