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  • in reply to: Regarding Starbug’s support legs #124699
    John Hoare
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    Right, Tonguetied, this is your first warning – for being unable to participate in the site constructively, and for not listening to site admin. Any more and there will be a second warning. Any more after that, and you’ll be banned.

    in reply to: Regarding Starbug’s support legs #124678
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Andrew doesn’t have to answer the question if he doesn’t want to. The fact that he DOES answer pretty much EVERY question on here, apart from one from you, might give you some pause for thought as to how to behave around here.

    Now drop it.

    in reply to: Would you sleep with the person who posted below you? #124650
    John Hoare
    Participant

    :-(

    in reply to: Would you sleep with the person who posted below you? #124648
    John Hoare
    Participant

    :-(

    in reply to: Father Ted 2007 DVD box set #124644
    John Hoare
    Participant

    It’s partly that – and it’s also that both the Who and Dwarf releases have benefited by having real fan or fans working on them – who will push for things to be as great as possible.

    I wonder whether deleted scenes ever occured to the people putting the Ted DVD together. Or perhaps it was just too easily dismissed as too expensive/of limited interest/there aren’t many anyway. As we all know – it was Andrew who forced through deleted scenes on the Dwarf DVDs – otherwise, we wouldn’t have got them even on a release as stunning as Dwarf

    But also – it’s that both Dwarf and Who has a fanbase asking for this kind of stuff. The Ted fanbase does exist – see Tedfest – but I haven’t seen anyone asking for deleted scenes anywhere online, have you?

    in reply to: Father Ted 2007 DVD box set #124625
    John Hoare
    Participant

    God, that packaging *is* frightful.

    But I’d buy it purely for the S3 commentary. I was really upset when I got the previous boxset and found out that it didn’t have one. A Linehan and Mathews one would be AMAZING.

    Why no deleted scenes, though? Have the rushes been destroyed, or was it just too expensive to go and look for them?

    in reply to: What was the first episode of Red Dwarf you saw? #124615
    John Hoare
    Participant

    You had me at ?I enjoyed KOA a lot?. Sorry, but that?s as shite as My Hero.

    I absolutely love it. But then, it *is* formula comedy, far more than VI – and I know from your previous posts that you don’t really take to that. I do – if I find the formula funny, I don’t give a fuck.

    Open All Hours is probably the better and more interesting show, though, although I don’t think it makes me laugh more.

    in reply to: What was the first episode of Red Dwarf you saw? #124609
    John Hoare
    Participant

    The thing that pisses me off about Last of the Summer Wine is that Roy Clarke used to be a great writer – Open All Hours and Keeping Up Appearances are FANTASTIC.

    But he seems content on just churning out that bilge now. What a shame.

    in reply to: Digital SHITS #124605
    John Hoare
    Participant

    That makes my efforts look like fucking Tolstoy.

    in reply to: What was the first episode of Red Dwarf you saw? #124568
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I did a play for a school assembly that nicked VAST amounts of Red Dwarf – including the chicken merango scene from Confidence and Paranoia, and the driving test from Backwards. I’m sure it was absolute shit, but as usual with my stuff, there was just one REALLY good joke. Fucked if I can remember it, though. I can’t even remember if we wrote out a script or not…

    Ut also involved a time machine made of cardboard, that blew up by someone pulling party poppers behind it. Only the person who was supposed to set them off they missed their cue, and I had to say the line three times before they bothered to do it. Prick.

    in reply to: What was the first episode of Red Dwarf you saw? #124564
    John Hoare
    Participant

    On an audio tape somewhere, I have the Palace Hill and The Cook Report themes. I also have me singing along to the theme of The Satellite Show, a CBBC series from the late eighties that NOBODY REMEMBERS. I really wish I’d been allowed video tapes back then to keep all this stuff – I would kill to see Palace Hill again, and it never turns up on any of the torrent sites…

    Unfortunately, I also have 30 minutes of, erm, ‘Radio John’.

    in reply to: What was the first episode of Red Dwarf you saw? #124561
    John Hoare
    Participant

    The End, I still have a Betamax recording of the original broadcast

    Does it have any continuity on it, mick?

    in reply to: So NBC’s importing The IT Crowd?… #124555
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Clip from the first episode here:

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/centre/

    A RUBBISH choice of clip – it’s very funny in context, but it doesn’t give you the setup required. But Moss’s “HELLO!” is just fantastic.

    in reply to: What was the first episode of Red Dwarf you saw? #124554
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Dwarf, Brittas and Harry Enfield?s Television Programme were three things I remember my Dad used to let me stay up late to watch?

    Spitting Image, for me. John Major singing Should I Stay or Should I Go is etched into my memory. “GO! GO!”

    Incidentally, the lyrics to that have always annoyed me. “If I go there will be trouble / And if I stay it will be double”. IN THAT CASE, SURELY THE DECISION IS OBVIOUS.

    in reply to: What was the first episode of Red Dwarf you saw? #124551
    John Hoare
    Participant

    The very first episode I remember seeing was a tiny bit of Dimension Jump – I *think* from its first showing. Dad turned over to it, and I saw Ace Rimmer knocking Kryten out in the cockpit. I wanted to watch it, but Dad wouldn’t let me because something else was on.

    The first episode I saw properly was actually The End in the ’94 repeat season – and I was hooked from the first episode, and recorded every episode on tape. Still have them, actually. Body Swap seems odd to me now, without the continuity announcer mentioning “It’s the Red Dwarf diet…”

    in reply to: Would you sleep with the person who posted above you? #124545
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Up the bum and no babies.

    in reply to: Regarding mellowness in Series 3 #124521
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Figures I gave are from Time Hole on reddwarf.co.uk. No idea about Ian’s, although I know various figures for certain episodes been published here and there. I’d love a complete list for each episode, though, but I have no idea how to get that!

    I don’t know what rating the Remastered eps got, either.

    in reply to: Red Dwarf used for a pile of shit ‘spoof’ article #124502
    John Hoare
    Participant
    in reply to: Regarding mellowness in Series 3 #124501
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I would be really interested to know what rating Pete 2 got – just to see how much of the problem with Only The Good… was the Monday night scheduling.

    in reply to: So NBC’s importing The IT Crowd?… #124493
    John Hoare
    Participant

    So does this mean Morris is present for at least one episode?

    Yep – I think very briefly. It was one Andrew saw recorded, so perhaps he can elaborate…

    in reply to: So NBC’s importing The IT Crowd?… #124491
    John Hoare
    Participant

    STOP PRESS!

    The first episode isn’t the one where Denholm leaves, as expected – it’s the aforementioned nearly-all-location one! Clearly, Linehan thinks it’s the best of the series too…

    I am so fucking excited. It’s a fucking brilliant epiosde.

    in reply to: So NBC’s importing The IT Crowd?… #124479
    John Hoare
    Participant

    The cut to Bernard working in the fast food place in series one is one of the most sublime pieces of editing-related timing I?ve ever seen in a sitcom…

    You know what I’m going to say, though – I don’t like the way it cuts back to Bernard after the notice. It should have gone from Bernard, to the notice, to Bernard behind the counter…

    Still fantastic, mind.

    in reply to: So NBC’s importing The IT Crowd?… #124477
    John Hoare
    Participant

    > the location one is the best episode of sitcom I?ve seen this decade, by a hell of a long way

    Wow, quite a bold statement. Now you?ve got me even more hyped!

    Oh dear. I was worried about that, because I suppose hyping an episode doesn’t really do it any favours.

    It has to be said that there’s just something about The IT Crowd that just hits me there. I can’t say exactly what it is – but I’ve just fallen in love with the show, in a way that I don’t think a lot of people have. So for me, it’s not hyperbole – it’s my favourite episode of sitcom this decade (unless they fuck it up in the edit) – but try not to go into it expecting that.

    But do expect it to be a lot of fun.

    in reply to: So NBC’s importing The IT Crowd?… #124473
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I *am* slightly concerned as to how the location episode will be edited. There were no pauses left for laughs – the audience was laughing all over lines. I missed loads of the episode through laughing.

    I suppose they’ll go back and add in the pauses. They kinda have to, I think, or it’s going to sound ridiculous.

    in reply to: So NBC’s importing The IT Crowd?… #124467
    John Hoare
    Participant

    One episode was all location, apart from three scenes at the start. The other two were mainly studio – although some scenes were still prerecorded studio stuff.

    Weirdly enough, the location episode was by far the best of the three, and I think the audience reaction confirms that. Partly the material, and partly due to the fact that once we got past the three scenes at the start, we watched it straight through – and so didn’t have to sit through endless retakes.

    The other two eps were great – but the location one is the best episode of sitcom I’ve seen this decade, by a hell of a long way. There is one cut-to joke that just had me in absolutely agony laughing…

    in reply to: So NBC’s importing The IT Crowd?… #124465
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Now, I hadn’t thought that about the timeslot! You’re quite right – it’s fucking excellent.

    The trailer makes me all warm inside. It’s such a great show. I haven’t looked forward to a series this much in a long time – and I’ve already seen half of them…

    in reply to: Doctor Who II #124464
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I really like the theory that each series is taking the respective villian for each Doctor:

    First Doctor/Series – Daleks
    Second Doctor/Series – Cybermen
    Third Doctor/Series – The Master
    Fourth Doctor/Series – Davros

    It’s probably just coincidence, but it’s nice anyway. No idea what they’d do for the fifth, though…

    in reply to: Absolutely aquires DVD Rights #124452
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Fucking fantastic.

    “And the gentlemen’s lavatory happened to be out of order. So the landlord said to me – Frank, why don’t you use the ladies? But they wouldn’t keep still…”

    Without wishing to look a gift horse in the mouth – I never thought something like this would ever happen, and it’s amazing news – is there any news of any extras?

    in reply to: Young ones 25th year DVD box set #124439
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Yep, House of Fun is in BoringOur House is in Sick.

    in reply to: Young ones 25th year DVD box set #124405
    John Hoare
    Participant

    All the episodes were 35 minutes long originally, but there are also 30 minute long versions, which are often shown instead now. I don’t actually know what’s on the original DVDs, as I refused to buy them, although the BBFC would suggest that it’s mostly the 35 minute versions.

    But yes, there were music edits. Hopefully they’ll manage to clear as much of it as possible for this release – the extras would suggest that a lot of care and attention has gone into it, and they will. I suspect anything that isn’t in this release is just currently completely unclearable.

    in reply to: Young ones 25th year DVD box set #124389
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I honestly can’t think of a comedy release that I want an extras-laden release of more. This is just fabulous stuff. And I never thought it’d happen, with the lacklustre releases a few years ago…

    Also: FUCKING COMMENTARIES! YES!

    John Hoare
    Participant

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NFPIATmwxK4

    Not related to Red Dwarf at all… but it might possibly be the best advert ever made.

    in reply to: Regarding mellowness in Series 3 #124360
    John Hoare
    Participant

    think there might be some info in the Time Hole articles on TOS.

    They give the *peak* figures as the following:

    Series 1 – 4m
    Series 2 – 3.2m
    Series III – 5m
    Series IV – No info given
    Series V – Over 6m
    Series VI – 6.26m
    Series VII – Over 8m
    Series VIII – Over 8m

    in reply to: Post Pod #124329
    John Hoare
    Participant

    MY GOD I CAN’T BELIEVE I NEVER NOTICED THAT

    OF COURSE

    I AM A FUCKING IDIOT

    John Hoare
    Participant

    Didn’t you use to call yourself something else ages ago?

    I vaguely remember you doing – but can’t remember what…

    in reply to: So… #124290
    John Hoare
    Participant

    “Of course you forgot the one where Lister is asked out by the fattest girl on Red Dwarf.”

    Ironically, I think – for the first two parts, at least – he’s far too positive about Back in the Red. But he’s far too negative about Krytie TV – in comparison to the rest of the series, anyway.

    With regards to the Wiki – yeah, I know it needs sticking back up. The problem is, I still haven’t figured out a direction for where the Wiki should go yet, and there’s very limited time from G&T admin to even check over edits. I’m loathe to stick it back up whilst I haven’t sorted out this issue…

    in reply to: Replacement header pic #124234
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Yeah, fake. See near the bottom here.

    in reply to: Replacement header pic #124229
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Like this! Although, actually, the first design I was involved in was this – the logo graphic is missing, but it’s just “Ganymede & Titan” in the same font as the other orange/black design. To say nothing of the site before I got involved – and there’s at least two designs before that one that have long gone missing – Ian first started the site in 1999…

    But yeah, I was really just referring to when I started putting proper pictures in the masthead, not the first design of the site itself.

    I should really set up some proper redirects for the stuff on http://www.ganymede-titan.info, instead of leaving it up like that, and fixing all the internal links on this site. But I’m a lazy fucker.

    in reply to: Replacement header pic #124226
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Wow! I forgot about that…

    I should stop being so lazy and do some decent graphics again.

    in reply to: Replacement header pic #124225
    John Hoare
    Participant

    But then, I?d also be surprised if anyone REMEMBERS what the first pic was?

    There you are. And there it is in action.

    Why not relive the “magic”?

    in reply to: Replacement header pic #124220
    John Hoare
    Participant

    If you’ve got a decent picture, send it to admin@ganymede.tv. If it’ll work, we’ll use it at some point…

    in reply to: Replacement header pic #124217
    John Hoare
    Participant

    In general, I’m in charge of that particular bit. Although if I put a picture of a big hairy cock and balls, there might be a bit of a fuss.

    in reply to: Replacement header pic #124214
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Oh yes.

    Taken from the behind-the-scenes footage on the VI DVD – it’s a shot through the camera viewfinder…

    in reply to: Ouroboros flashback sequence #124205
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I also dislike the service station chip line. For some of the same reasons that I don’t like the iguana line – I don’t think it’s performed very well, and it’s just a weak joke. And more than that, it just feels really forced – the rhythm of the line is all wrong. “Chip” just seems to hang in mid-air…

    But, well, as you know, I love the Space Corps Directives. I have no problem with formula comedy… if the formula’s a good one, and it’s done well.

    in reply to: Ouroboros flashback sequence #124200
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I actually like those last three gags, although I think a lot of it’s to do with the delivery – something I don’t think Craig’s got on his side with the iguana line.

    But I think there’s a bit more to them than just the similes – the glass of water line is funny because of Norm’s indignance, the can of spam line is funny because it’s emphasising the real joke (“Yes, that’s because I’m dead!”), and the 12,000 PE Teachers gag has an extra twist – Holly’s IQ is 6000. If it was just 6000 PE Teachers (like the less amusing car park attendants joke) , it’s a straightforward gag – but the idea that each of them only has *half* an IQ point lifts it, for me.

    in reply to: Ouroboros flashback sequence #124196
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I started doing just that recently but then thought about what I was actually doing and promptly stopped.

    This made me do a LOL.

    I think Series IV is *very* short on laughs from the audience, when you actually listen out for them – especially compared to Series III. There was a discussion on here about it a while back, and Andrew suggested that as it was their first year at Shepperton, they were still getting used to setting up the audience microphones, compared to the Manchester studios, where sitcoms were more often recorded.

    in reply to: Ouroboros flashback sequence #124192
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Ah, I think you’re onto something with the audience laugh! I don’t think I would have found the line any *funnier* – but then, there’s plenty of Dwarf jokes that don’t make me smile that I never mention. It’s the lack of laugh that makes the line feel awkward for me.

    in reply to: Red Dwarf used for a pile of shit ‘spoof’ article #124189
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Boy, this is gonna be fun.

    in reply to: Ouroboros flashback sequence #124188
    John Hoare
    Participant

    > ?What?s an iguana?? is a quite funny line, well-delivered by Craig.

    I concur.

    The strange thing here, of course, is that I think The End is far better than you do!

    Truth be told, I don’t really cringe at the line. I probably overstated my case somewhat – I hadn’t seen Series 1 in a while, and when I watched it again, it didn’t really bother me that much. It’s a throwaway line that doesn’t work for me, and I’d built it up in my head.

    But I don’t find it funny, and it does sit awkwardly with me in a way that very little of Series 1 does. It just doesn’t feel right. It’s just a weak “Lister’s stupid” joke that just doesn’t work for me.

    I think the timing is off as well, though. I wonder if a cutaway to a reaction shot of Rimmer after the line might improve it…

    in reply to: Ouroboros flashback sequence #124172
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I?m not keen on the flashback scene at all, I?m afraid. The set and costumes are beautiful, but? well, what can I say? It just doesn?t make me laugh. At all. It feels like a recreation of the Lister/Rimmer relationship of Series 1, but devoid of all the things that actually makes me laugh at it. Sure, VIII has exactly the same problem – and again, I’m only defending it as compared to VII, rather than on its own terms – but it at least has more utterly stupid jokes that I can at least laugh at in a different way.

    I don?t think the first bunkroom scene in The End is the best thing Rob and Doug have written either, mind you. But it makes me smile – probably because it’s got the context of the rest of the episode backing it up. And the first part of it to do with the exams is quite good.

    in reply to: Red Dwarf used for a pile of shit ‘spoof’ article #124171
    John Hoare
    Participant

    My God.

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124138
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Andrew says some interesting things about the Lister/Rimmer relationship in VIII in this Down Time article. I don’t agree with all the article, but I think the friendship stuff is spot on.

    Personally, I don’t care that they become more friendly – indeed, I think that’s what *would* happen. But they’re hardly at each other’s throats all the time anyway in previous series – I love their relationship in The Last Day, for instance, and that’s not antagonistic at all.

    in reply to: Red Dwarf theme ring tone #124135
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Ian had the Gunmen theme for his ringtone at one point, which I sadly thought was pretty cool.

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124065
    John Hoare
    Participant

    lol random

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124038
    John Hoare
    Participant

    It *is* a good line. But by that time, the episode has stretched my patience so much that it loses any impact for me.

    It’s not my favourite VII joke either, by a long way – that goes to Kryten in Blue:

    “Sorry, sir! Wrong disk – that was my German language course; an extract from Hitler’s Nuremburg speech. Definitely hypnotic, but not in the right way.”

    That is just a superb line. It’s the kind of line that just makes me stand back in sheer admiration for how clever it is. Something incredibly rare in VII for me, sadly.

    But no, Ouroboros does nothing for me. There’s the very occasional good bit – the set for the recreation of Red Dwarf is fantastic, and I love the costumes too – but… well, I just couldn’t get through writing the Xtended differences article on it. It just depressed me far too much. I don’t find it in the slightest bit amusing.

    Pete 2 at least makes me laugh before the 25 minute mark. And more than once.

    John Hoare
    Participant

    Yeah, here’s that previous article. But yeah, I always assumed that the continuity was revised, and Rimmer *wasn’t* guilty – but now I think that it he is still guilty, and it’s simply Kryten getting him off.

    There’s one thing I *will* say, though – nowhere in Justice do any of the Dwarfers say specifically that Rimmer is guilty. Which strikes me as an odd omission. It’s left slightly ambiguous, either by accident or design.

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124032
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Oh yeah, one thing I forgot to mention:

    Pete Pt. 2? Mac is good in it.

    Mac McDonald is *fantastic* in VIII. He provides a lot of my favourite moments in the series. Him backing out of the toilet spraying air freshener is the funniest thing in Back in the Red for me. And I don’t mean that snidely – it’s really, really funny.

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124031
    John Hoare
    Participant

    When I’m back on the case with G&T stuff, we’ll have a go.

    Seb actually likes Ouroboros as well. And Cappsy has said in this thread that he’s beginning to like VII more. The episode is by no means universally hated round here, which perhaps isn’t something you’d expect…

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124025
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Maybe we should get together and write a Love/Hate article, Phil…

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124016
    John Hoare
    Participant

    But I can hardly get through VII/VIII episodes without wishing I?d decided to put something else on.

    I think it’s probably important to note that whenever I defend VIII, it’s mainly by stating it’s better than VII. Which I honestly believe – I think it’s miles, miles better than VII. But I can’t really defend it as a good sitcom series in its own right. Sure, it’s better than The Crouches, but then so are anal warts.

    Anyway, I very much disagree that VI feels like a parody. And whilst it certainly feels different, I don’t feel the writers are talking down to the audience at all. Sure, Back To Reality and Psirens are very different shows, but Psirens is always going to suffer against possibly one of the best episodes of Dwarf ever made.

    Although actually, whilst I don’t think it’s the better episode – the plot and characterisation are nowhere near as good – I think Psirens is definitely the funnier episode. Which counts for a lot in a comedy series…

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124014
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I think, in all honesty, Pete 2 gets a bad rap for being the worst Dwarf ep. I’d put more than half of VII as worse – every ep apart Tikka, Stoke, and Blue, really, and the latter two are borderline. (Blue only gets in there because of The Rimmer Experience – the best realised part of the entirety of VII/VIII – and Stoke… well, I’ve never been that keen on it as an episode, really. But that’s a discussion for another time.)

    Pete 2 has some good jokes and moments, whilst also having a lot of appalling stuff. (“The whole hog? Like it wasn’t hard enough getting the whole cow.” Oh, go away. I’d prefer Lister to start asking what the fuck an iguana was again.) But stuff like Ouroboros and Epideme I find pretty much unwatchable, with very little to recommend them. I really *don’t* think they succeed at what they’re trying to do – which is be funny, and do interesting character stuff. Wheras VIII, whilst having lots of embarrassing stuff, still has a sense of *fun* and good-naturedness about it which VII lacks. And just plain more funny moments. (“LOOK AFTER IT!”)

    Get me drunk, or in a *really* good mood, and I can sometimes forgive VIII’s many, many shortcomings, and concentrate on the good bits. But VII usually has me shouting at the screen within five minutes. Especially if I’m drunk.

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124012
    John Hoare
    Participant

    It’s like a big weeping scab that I can’t stop picking at.

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124010
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Actually, I?ve been thinking about all this a bit recently, and I think it?d make a great topic for a DwarfCast discussion forum. I think we have a decent split between us? one for the next time we?re all together, anyway.

    Oooh, yes! Have it all out once and for all. I think with all of us, there’s at least enough of a difference of opinion to make it worthwhile. And the Tikka Xtended one worked well.

    Also: FIX YOUR COMPUTER.

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124006
    John Hoare
    Participant

    MUST… RESIST… URGE… TO… START… VII/VIII… ARGUMENT…

    If anyone wants me, I’ll be taking a cold shower in liquid oxygen.

    in reply to: Doctor Who II #124004
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Dead Ringers annoys me – because I *should* like it. The obsession with TV idents and presentation, the fact it’s big and colourful… But the material is SO weak, and John Culshaw is SO annoying, that I just can’t watch it.

    in reply to: Pete – Part 2: The Good Bits #124001
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I agree with every single one of those five good bits. Especially five, which I agree is absolutely the best bit of the episode. It’s stuff like this that means I generally prefer VIII to VII. You can usually find similar good bits in VIII eps, wheras it’s a *lot* harder in the majority of VII. (But not impossible. “Listen you stupid jumped up son of a…”)

    I’ve always hated the Rimmer-shaped blur line, though, for some reason.

    in reply to: Doctor Who II #124000
    John Hoare
    Participant

    “hideous Carry On series”? Gah, that’s a shame. I won’t let it affect my opinion of the guy – he was still amazing – but it’s always a shame to hear someone you love slag off something else you love, especially if they were in it. The Carry Ons were great, at least until near the end, but specifically, Carry On Cowboy is a brilliant, brilliant film – really well made and funny. Even Kenneth Williams liked it in his diaries, and he slagged them off most of the time too!

    Mind you, it’s not quite as disturbing as reading that Rob Grant likes Dead Ringers.

    in reply to: It is not too late for the cast? #123967
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Oh, undoubtedly. I suppose when I say original concept, I really mean nothing more than a “40-something Lister”, rather than a “young cool black guy in his mid-20s” – nothing more specific than that. The character certainly wouldn’t have the be exactly the same as in the pilot script – just that you *could* adapt to fit Craig’s age.

    in reply to: It is not too late for the cast? #123965
    John Hoare
    Participant

    It?s a nice enough idea to reboot and go with the original Lister concept but we have no indication if that would be anywhere near as popular.

    That’s certainly true. But at this point, we can’t go back in time and get a younger Craig Charles. You either have to recast and find a younger Lister, or get Craig Charles back in and adapt the character and go with the original concept.

    And I’d prefer the latter.

    in reply to: Downloads #123949
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Now fixed. A problem with our systems – we can see even unpublished stuff, so sometimes we forget to select ‘Published’ on the system so everyone else can see it…

    We’ll put out a call for more stuff to add to the Print Archive at some point – but if anyone has any scans handy, then get in contact.

    in reply to: The Avengers #123937
    John Hoare
    Participant

    It is utterly great – such a beautifully made show. If only something like it would be made now…

    Arlene – you should check out Pertwee’s performance in Carry On Cowboy. He’s only in it for ten minutes or so, but it’s the best performance of the film. Just wonderful. (And the rest of the film is great too, so well worth getting anyway.)

    in reply to: Doctor Who II #123936
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I fucking love The Parting of the Ways. What didn’t you like about it?

    I agree that the Nestene Consciousness stuff in Rose isn’t brilliant – not bad in any way, just not brilliant – but, then, the Nestene stuff isn’t really the heart of Rose at all. It’s not the important bit of the episode. The important it is stuff like:

    “Well, it might do you good. That shop was giving you airs and graces.”

    in reply to: Downloads #123931
    John Hoare
    Participant

    What happened to the links menu, btw?

    The Quick Links? I got rid of it to simplify the right-hand navbar. You could well argue that the Quick Links are a lot more important than the Who’s New list, but, erm… I really like the Who’s New bit, for some reason.

    Anyway, if people want the Quick Links back, I’m more than happy to stick it back up.

    Anyway, you get your eyes feeling better, okay? ^_^

    Ta! I need a new monitor, I think – this one is fucking awful.

    in reply to: Downloads #123922
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Well done on spotting it! I think it’s being mentioned in the next update tomorrow, along with the latest TOS news.

    This might be as good a place as any to say it – I’m not doing any news stories or updates around here for the next couple of weeks. I’m trying to rest my eyes as they’ve been a bit blurry and achy recently (the optician has confirmed there’s nothing physically wrong with them, so it’s probably stress or something) – and the time I *am* spending online I’m using to do my business and to redesign Noise To Signal. But the others will be busy keeping the site updated, so you’ll be treated to some adept prose style for a change.

    I’ll be back doing stuff in a couple of weeks or so. Can you wait? Clue: yes.

    in reply to: Smegupoly – The Red Dwarf Boardgame. #123917
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I know. I was 17! I could have gone! But I just wasn’t involved with that kind of thing back then.

    Sob.

    in reply to: Smegupoly – The Red Dwarf Boardgame. #123910
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I didn’t know about the Adelphi 12 either! That’s fantastic.

    in reply to: It is not too late for the cast? #123894
    John Hoare
    Participant

    But why should it *matter* if the cast is older, just because it’s retelling the crew being wiped out? It’s a complete reboot, not linked to the TV series. Again, the Lister originally-going-to-be-40 thing comes into play here.

    in reply to: Smegupoly – The Red Dwarf Boardgame. #123891
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I tell you something, get this done in time for DJ and for once we won?t have to go walking round golf courses at four in the morning.

    Or get stung by FUCKING nettles.

    Or actually be in REAL PHYSICAL DANGER OF DYING BY FALLING OFF A BRIDGE.

    in reply to: It is not too late for the cast? #123890
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I must admit, certain things worry me about the Movie, or any new series, if they ever go ahead… but the age of the cast has never been one of them. Certainly not at the moment. Look at Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan – age can *always* be taken into account in the script.

    People don’t stop being funny as soon as they hit 40.

    in reply to: Smegupoly – The Red Dwarf Boardgame. #123830
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Powerpuff Girls (I kid you not) editions

    Oooh, I’d never heard about this! Fantastic!

    *googles*

    I want.

    in reply to: Smegupoly – The Red Dwarf Boardgame. #123820
    John Hoare
    Participant

    That?s skating ever so close to a Birds of a Feather gag.

    Inspector Fowler, in The Thin Blue Line:” There’s a place for smutty inuendo, Constable Kray, and that place is on Birds of a Feather.”

    Although I quite like the early series…

    in reply to: Doctor Who II #123819
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I was slightly annoyed that the fantastic Voyager episode ?Year of Hell? had the characters lose all knowledge of an entire year?s interesting character development. There was no way around it admittedly in that episode and I suppose having Annorax reunited with his wife was a satisfying enough conclusion. Though after seeing Janeway tested to her limits and sacrifing herself for the sake of the crew not happen can make the previous 85 minutes seem worthless.

    That was the reset button I least minded in Voyager, although it did cause the most fuss. But the reset button was intrinsic to the plot, there – it’s set up from the very first scene with Annorax.

    But I do wish YoH is how they’d done *all* of Voyager, rather than just being a two-parter…

    With regards to Tate – I certainly agree with Jonsmad that the setup of the reluctant companion (or at the very least an antagonistic one) would be great for Series 4, and the right time to do it. It’s just that I’m not convinced about it being Tate. She’s fine in small doses (and when she’s NOT. DOING. SKETCHES) – but I’m really worried about 13 episodes with her. I just don’t warm to her enough for that.

    in reply to: Fan Funding for the movie… #123818
    John Hoare
    Participant

    If it was brought back now I?m still confident it would manage at the very least a regular audience of around 4-5 million.

    Yep, I agree with this. But – as I’m sure you know, but I’m just clarifying for the sake of the topic – an extremely small fraction would actually put money towards a film. Nowhere near enough.

    Likewise to think of it as a decade old show is only really true to us Brits. Everywhere else it?s still relatively new and through re-runs and the DVDs is continually reaching a fresh audience.

    I just wish some of them would enter fandom. But that’s a whole different discussion…

    in reply to: Doctor Who II #123797
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Yes, the more I think about the finale, the more the reset button doesn’t actually bother me.

    I think sitting through too much Voyager has probably made me over-sensitive to reset buttons.

    in reply to: Doctor Who II #123786
    John Hoare
    Participant

    They drop Martha (and ignore the awesome potential of Sally Sparrow) and pick an awful comedian who relies on canned laughter to convince deadbeats that her show isn?t the biggest pile of shite on TV.

    It’s not canned, though, is it? Isn’t it shot in front of/shown to an audience?

    I think The Catherine Tate Show is excerable – but I didn’t mind her in Who at all. For an episode. And I wouldn’t mind a guest part in Series 4. But she *really* doesn’t scream full-time companion to me – not even with the obvious changes that are going to be made to her character. And the more I think about it, the less happy I am.

    It’s important to remember that they haven’t dropped Martha as such, though – she’s in the last half of the series, I believe. She’s also in three episodes of Torchwood – and she couldn’t shoot both Torchwood and all 13 eps of Who. I reckon they actually think a lot of her – so much, in fact, that they want her in Torchwood to boot it up the arse slightly…

    in reply to: Doctor Who II #123780
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I wouldn’t say ruined, exactly… but whilst I really liked her performance in The Runaway Bride, not even I’m keen on 13 episodes of her. Back for a two-parter? I’d look forward to it. Back for a whole series? Pfffft.

    We’ll see, but I have a deep dark sense of foreboding about this.

    in reply to: So, the Bodysnatcher Collection, and then…. What? #123771
    John Hoare
    Participant

    You could do a spin-off set in the same universe with different characters, though…

    in reply to: So, the Bodysnatcher Collection, and then…. What? #123749
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Incidentally, something Andrew said on the Webboard – hopefully you won’t mind me quoting this, Andrew:

    “I’ve always thought that – if the film didn’t happen – we could do a DVD set based around it. Art, boards, animatics, readthrough and rehearsal footage…and a full cast audio
    recording of the script. Maybe set to boards or, gulp, animated.”

    Note the “if”, there, before anyone takes that too literally! But I think it’s a marvellous idea. Doug has mentioned in the past that if the Movie doesn’t happen, he could write a book about it – but a DVD would be absolutely perfect.

    in reply to: So, the Bodysnatcher Collection, and then…. What? #123748
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I have very, very mixed feelings as to where I’d like to see Dwarf go next. A Movie would be absolutely fantastic – it’s taking Dwarf into a new area, and I really really want to see what Doug can do with it.

    If we don’t get that, a special to tie everything up would also be great… if only to resolve that pesky cliffhanger.

    A series of specials, or even a full-blown series… I’m ambivalent about. In a lot of ways, I’d love to see them – I’m still a fan of Dwarf, and I want to see what Doug can do. But the fact remains that I’m not that keen on VII/VIII – and whilst I wouldn’t prejudge any new series, it does get to the point, when there’s been 52 episodes, and I’ve not been that keen on the last 16, where I think… enough is enough. On the other hand, I’d really like to see the series end on a high.

    In a lot of ways, I’d like to see what Rob and Doug can do with other stuff – either together, or frankly far more likely, solo. Rob Grant’s got a hugely successful novel-writing career, of course, but I’d love to see what he could do for telly – and I just want to see anything from Doug Naylor at this point.

    The fanboy in me wants to see more Dwarf – even if it’s just back on telly, and the Movie doesn’t happen. But I can’t help but feel that in terms of something I might *really* love, a completely new project might be more likely to succeed – with me, at any rate.

    All just my personal opinion as to what I think *I* would love, obviously…

    in reply to: movie book #123726
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Has teh Ellard ever explained about this book? Was it going to be about the making of the movie?

    Yep, it was. He was all set to write it, and as the film got very close to production at one point, then Amazon grabbed hold of it.

    Mind you, Amazon will list anything…

    in reply to: Doctor Who II #123675
    John Hoare
    Participant

    How deliciously bizarre.

    I might get bored of that quote at some point.

    Nothing to do with me, anyway. I wouldn’t be seen dead using tables for layout…

    in reply to: Doctor Who II #123673
    John Hoare
    Participant

    *best Craig Charles impersonation*

    What?s pagination?

    Splitting the forum display into pages – so, you’ll get, say 30 posts on a page – and then you go to page 2.

    Simple enough, you might think. And I can enable it with a couple of clicks on the mouse. But STUPIDLY, the software won’t display the number of pages (and links to those pages) in the topics listing, like EVERY SINGLE OTHER PIECE OF FORUM SOFTWARE does. Which would make the whole thing completely confusing.

    So I’ve got to find a way to make it do that. It’s doable, but it’ll take a bit of work.

    in reply to: Doctor Who #123653
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I must admit, I predicted you’d show up, but that kind of timescale is pretty impressive.

    in reply to: Doctor Who #123626
    John Hoare
    Participant

    With regards to Father’s Day – oddly enough, I think it’s the episode that probably made me care about Rose as a character. It’s easy to scoff at the dead father stuff if it doesn’t work for you, but it really did for me. Just that shot of her in tears near the beginning when she misses her chance… well, it resonated with me, put it like that. That whole situation is something I often wondered about myself.

    Rose does work as an identification character for the show for me. Someone I’m completely like as a character? No. Someone who I would want to hang around with? Absolutely not. But someone who got stuck in a dead end job and needs to realise just how wonderful the world can be, if you grab hold of it and live life? Oh yes.

    in reply to: Doctor Who #123628
    John Hoare
    Participant

    http://markmuldoon.blogspot.com/2007/06/doctor-who-appreciation-blog.html

    Not only have I learnt that “Sci-fi is crap” – but apparently, having a favourite writer is “geeky”.

    I hope they don’t pop round here, or their head will explode. Actually, on second thoughts, maybe I *do* want them to pop round here.

    in reply to: Doctor Who #123650
    John Hoare
    Participant

    God, Father’s Day is one of my favourite episodes of New Who. But it all depends on whether the emotional stuff in it affects you – if it doesn’t, then it has precious little else to offer. But it’s one of the very few episodes of New Who that always affects me – I never fail to tear up at it.

    in reply to: Red Dwarf – The Role Playing Game #123645
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I’ve never played it. I never really have time…

    A report would be fantastic, though!

    in reply to: So…Only Fools and Horses… #123636
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I find the Fawlty/branch/car scene unrepresentative of Fawlty – just as the Del Boy/bar scene is unrepresentative of OFAH. The really interesting character comedy in Fawlty comes from his class snobbery, sexual repression, and the like.

    Although, y’know, him pulling a funny face when the rat escapes is funny as well.

    Anyway, it’s all a taste thing. And I do enjoy OFAH when it’s on, especially earlier ones. It’s just that it doesn’t really resonate with me that much.

    in reply to: So…Only Fools and Horses… #123615
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I really like Are You Being Served? a lot (“You’ve all done very well!”), although it’s not the best Croft sitcom. (Which, for my money, is ‘Allo ‘Allo! – even over stuff like Dad’s Army.)

    Perhaps it?s a personally thing but a joke based on a character I can find infinetly re-watchable whereas conversely the jokes in Fawlty Towers have now lost a lot of appeal.

    I don’t really understand this, as most of the jokes in Fawlty Towers *are* based on character!

    I’m with Tanya on this one (surprisingly) – I don’t think OFAH is consistently funny enough. It’s good stuff, but there’s a hell of a lot I’d rate above it. This is a personal thing, though – for me, the best sitcoms are laugh after laugh after laugh – and do the character stuff at the same time. (The second half of the first series of Joking Apart I find far better than the first half, for precisely this reason). But other people respond to different things, which is fine.

    Actually, I tend to have the same problem with a lot of John Sullivan’s work – Citizen Smith springs to mind. A great idea, a great cast, wonderfully produced… but not consistently funny enough for me to finish watching the DVD.

    in reply to: So NBC’s importing The IT Crowd?… #123504
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Well, The IT Crowd lost out in the BAFTAs to The Royale Family.

    Bah. Although it was an entirely predictable decision.

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