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BELATED COMMENT ON ACE RIMMER SPIN-OFF

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PM- You’re just a shit Tongue Tied!

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Congrats!

Are you sure it’s not a bit of dirt on the scanner?

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I’ve never had to worry about that. Most of my posts are conversation killers.

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Rose’s lips need to be ten times bigger

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Hey, rather late to the party (fashionably late?- God, I hope not), but if you take into account every ‘fact’, previously written into the show- I reckon you could get seriously screwed over, especially with RTD’s “This is the way things are” attitude to the whoniverse. I mean fair enough, he seeded the show for continuity he could use later, such as the Master’s ring being picked up [“I just put that in there in case anybody wanted to use it laster, although I never thought it would be me. But I always new it would be the Director of the Prison” WTF? And likewise, the two Timelords that voted against Rassilon being turned to satues and not being able to look at anybody, that seemed to be very much RTD saying “…And this is what the Weeping Angels are.” Cunt. That’s almost sabotage.

So in my mind Steven Moffat is entitled to take anything not previous laid down in his stories and say, “Fuck that.” Obviously some things have got to be sacorsant, but I can’t see too many viewers upset if they don’t have to google Blinovitch.

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I think this is great- it’s some of the few trivial points on wiki which are actually referenced! Which leads to another issue…

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I can never get in the groove of their albums, but they produce great tracks. ‘If You’re Wondering If I Want You To (I Want You To)’ was one of the best tracks of last year, but I just can’t take Raditude as a whole to heart. Same with the Blue Album (Heresy!…)

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Fluffy Wok’s horse has just died

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And normal service is resumed. Sort of.

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Cunts.

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> This is a nice place

What the fuck is happening to this site?

I come here because of the recommendations.

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I thought when they suggested moving filming to Mars for Series 2 Norm spat his dummy out saying it was too far for him to come in for rehersals, and that it was impossible for him to play football in those conditions (and they know who he’s talking about).

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And both have used Earth as a cheap local location.

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Thank you. You saved me going there…

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I suppose one of the reasons that the quality of Who dropped off in the 80s was that it wasn’t seen as a prestigious position anymore, hence the lack of qualified/ quality writers. Fast forward 20 years and a whole new generation of writers who grew up on the series have revived the show’s fortunes. Do you think this points the way for future Red Dwarf?- looking around just this forum there are numerous writers who are in this position, and when you have people such as Duncan Jones coming out and citing Dwarf’s influence the parallels are there.

Or is Dwarf still considered too cult? Would Doug be open to this? Why am I asking while all you fuckers are asleep?

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I want to see Amy Pond with Mr Flibble. NOW!

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I’d agree with your assessment of Tsunami- to me its grown on repeated listening of the album, and probably because I listened to IYTT and You Stole… so much at the time they were released (I don’t tend to listen to HB, Everything… or TISMT as much these days for the same reasons). If you had to leave me with one Manics album though it would be Generation Terrorists- it’s an excellent ‘baseline’ of what i consider the Manic’s sound to be.

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Out of the five recent albums, only Know Your Enemy really fails for me- Lifeblood is passable, This Is My Truth was the album got me hooked so I have a personal bias towards it. I thought SATT was a real return to their traditional sound, especially the guitars. I haven’t really developed any feelings towards Journal yet- I consider it more of a historical odity, like Lipstick Traces. I know it was recorded as a new album, but with archived material.

Is there any point in judging the sound of a forthcoming album on the basis of a lead single?

And hey, I stand by my original comment- I guess Danodin will have no objections anyhow, since you have a a atated preference for Holy Bible/ Journal rather than ‘commercial’ Manics.

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So it saddens you that you’d rather listen to something that you love?

Congratulations! You are today’s definition of ’emo’.

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How do Americans pronounce condom? Are the vowels silent? Or is this just a lack of familiarisation with a slobby scouse accent?

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The few clips that did make it on were a bit more edited- presumably to keep the dvd classifications down.

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Did I start this?

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Is that a confirmation?

For the record- Doug, get on Carpool!

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How big is this project? Six half hour epsiodes or equivalent? And what was Craig Charles’s stated availability?

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Singing Potato and Carl seem to have the most material to work with…

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What- than post under another username?

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It’s not occurred to anyone that Shane G may be Norman Lovett (or vice versa?)

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Three posts in a row, I think that should prove my Carlness.

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Wilbur doesn’t actually exist, in case anyone was wondering.

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Of course Shane G is Carl. I should know, I’m actualy Carl.

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Just out of interest, how did your friend find that journal? Afterall, its not like its a well-affiliated hot-bed of journalism? Anyway, thanks for bringing it to everyones attention. I hope you continue contributing to G&T.

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Why use mocap when you could use Cher and a soldering iron?

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No way, no one person could possibly be all those different Michael Jacksons

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Anyway, new challenge- Red Dwarf stole Cassandra from Only Fools And Horses. Discuss.

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Just to contribute and flog the dead horse- I thought RD’s Cassandra was played by Zoe Wannamaker when I first saw it aired- DW’s was. When DW’s Cassandra first appears, she’s in the same room as the Face of Beau (or whatever) who looks just like RD’s Cassandra…

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>it?s going to be a long few days (or more likely weeks and months) of media coverage.

True, but the media aren’t renowned for showing care and compassion when there’s a story in the way. I’d imagine there is a team of press archaeologists going through his closets right now.

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Well, I hate to be the first nay-sayer, but I was severely doubting the potential of this tour. An entertainer who has presented nothing of note for over 20 years with chronicled health and financial problems announces a huge string of tour dates with a lot of doubt over his physical capacity to meet the demands, I think the big question was how many will he make rather than how spectacular will they be. Given the choice between risking my money on Axl Rose of Michael Jackson, I have to say I’d have gone for a GnR show…

Yes, he did change the face of music, and I really hope he’ll be remembered for that rather than the later circus of his life. Hopefully he can RIP

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Nah, stil going with seduce.

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It makes sense- afterall, we do know that in all the dimensions encountered by the original Ace, he never met another Rimmer who was as cowardly and weasely as the version encountered upon Red Dwarf, therefore it would make perfect sense for Rimmer to stuff up being Ace, return to his original dimension and ‘seduce’ (for want of a better word) his rebuilt version into taking on the role.

But to fill in the massive gap between Series VIII and BtE, how did it happen? My original thought that Ace could have showed up at the end of OtGD and convinced Rimmer that becoming Ace was better than staying on the ship getting eaten by the virus, but that leaves the plothole that the original Rimmer was trapped in a mirror universe away from the rest of the crew- but then so was the rebuilt Rimmer!

Maybe someone has already formulated a theory to cover this and I’ve just not been reading closely enough…

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Guys, get a sense of perspective. G&T is well respected not just because of the immense knowledge of RD to be found here, but also becaue of the perspective of its users- which first and foremost seperates it from the official site forum.

The idea of a whole lot of seperate groups across the internet pooling their knowledge of RD in seperate wikis just to prove something to… Well help me out there? If anyone wants to look up a wiki article on RD you know very well that they will be heading to another website for that data. OK, there maybe users there that don’t appreciate the level of potential there is for RD related articles, but its a lot more constructive than setting up your own site 300,000,000 years into cyberspace.

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Damn, if these guys all pooled their immense knowledge and wisdom on all things RD in one single Wiki then we could have one hell of an on-line resource. Oh, if only such a website existed…

In the meantime I going to enjoy the ultimate Red Dwarf precis:

>In the original series his dream and aim in life was to go to fiji with a cat ( originally supposed to be his pet cat Frankenstein, but after she along with mostly everyone else has died he says that her descendent , the cat , will do) buy some land and make a farm , he was going to take fellow crew member christine cochanski with him but after she died along with the rest of the original crew of the ship this became apparently impossible.

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Ok, when I say its got potential, it’s the same amount of potential as the script of Hyperdrivel- you could delete it all and write something good.

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Give it credit- its got potential. I like how they provide a section on ‘Future’ for the characters. Maybe we could expand those sections a bit, referncing from here
http://www.ganymede.tv/forum/2008/05/did-you-see-red-dwarf-spoilers

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The rest of us just use the suffix ‘o’ whenever we feel like it.

“This arvo Davo and I went to the servo, stopped off at the bottleo and loaded up with a slab of piss”

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To be fair, it might look like it’s just been started, but the history says three years of hard labour went into that.

The Chris Barrie entry is particularly impressive in its scope:
http://reddwarf.wikia.com/wiki/Chris_Barrie

Two years ago the entry was a lot more informative and useful:
http://reddwarf.wikia.com/index.php?title=Chris_Barrie&oldid=3875

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I’m not the best person for that I’m afraid- time differences mean that I can only just figure out what time it is in the Uk, let alone the US. It makes for frustrating time-lags posting on this forum- this exchange averages one post per day.

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>The thing is, that SFX article actually has quotes from Robert and Danny. They definitely said what people are saying they said, I?m sure of that much at least.

Has it occured to you that all quotes on the internet may be coming from the one source? Little Smegger admits to posting the same stuff on three websites, so why shouldn’t wiki/SFX have a shared author? Whilst I don’t doubt that these talks are ongoing, it doesn’t seem that these quotes were the main feature of the convention. I’m guessing they were probably off the cuff comments whilst the cast were mingling.

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Seems very strange to me- the only evidence seems to be a rumour added to wikipedia by an anonymous IP. I wouldn’t expect anyone on here to support an unofficial convention, and whilst I know posters* on the OS support it its unlikely GNP would let them break the news there.

So the final place to check for coroborating evidence would be on the organisers forum, which is the strangest place yet. The first post in this thread seems to support the rumour, but everyone wants to disect the event and its organisation rather than anything related to Red Dwarf. I guess its like going to see Liverpool v Chelsea and then analysing the toilet facilities and queues in the car park afterwards. http://showmastersonline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=50721&st=0

I expect there will be a new series though- I’m just bitter cos I’m in Australia and we haven’t even had a tv screening yet, let alone the DVD.

*Or trolls, similar to one-shot IP adresses on wiki

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So you arrange for half of cyberspace to wake you up for a Starbucks interview, but you leave an interview with DJJ to chance? Madness…

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