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  • in reply to: Mundane observation dome #267319
    Welding Mallet
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    The 14-year old me was far from the most of discerning TV viewers, but I remember being massively disappointed that when I finally got to see a NEW edition of Red Dwarf on the same day as everybody else it was just a knockabout romp based on an extremely serious event that happened 34 years earlier.

    That has coloured my judgment ever since…and yet I still think it’s the best episode of that series…

    in reply to: Your Unpopular Red Dwarf Opinions #267310
    Welding Mallet
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    I get it…I do think the first few minutes of ‘Psirens’ are definitely there to ensnare the “Why does he have an H on his head?” casual-types.

    But then, I am of the school of thought that ‘The Royle Family’ should have stayed on BBC2 so what do I know?

    in reply to: Mundane observation dome #267309
    Welding Mallet
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    An observation of fan perception rather than the show:

    I came across a Twitter thread ranking the episodes in the user’s favoured order. Camille came below Krytie TV, Queeg was below {sobs} Pete and BITR because it was ‘boring’ now they’ve seen it so often! These were the two lowest-ranked eps of the BBC-era, 60 and 51 respectively. Much of series I and II came in the low/middle, most of VII was middling/top third … and number 1 was Siliconia!
    Just blew my mind, to see such a COMPLETELY different perception of the episodes. Absolutely amazing.
    I sometimes find it hard to wrap my head around the disparate nature of Red Dwarf fan sub groups.
    To me, it’s crazy town to put anything post VI above anything pre VII, but some people care more about the gags than anything, and the broader, more tried and true sitcom comedy style of VIII and Dave Dwarf mean it really appeals to some, but less for the people who liked the sci-fi believability.
    It’s like Lister’s speech in Ouroboros, Red Dwarf fans can never go extinct because as one group dwindles there’s always a new subgroup popping up.
    Teenage girls on Tumblr that want Rimmer and Lister to fuck are the latest generation, which will make for some interesting Dimension Jumps in the future I’m sure.
    There’ll be a group of 10 year olds being prepared by watching their parents DVDs that will eventually dress a bit like Paul Montague and won’t touch anything Red Dwarf that wasn’t filmed in Manchester or something.

    This is very true. At my old workplace a colleague who knew that my “homeboys” and I were fans accosted us one day after she caught “that really funny bit when they can’t play basketball because…you know”.
    I don’t think she saw our shared grimaces….

    in reply to: Mundane observation dome #267308
    Welding Mallet
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    Anyone else notice a slight similarity with the closing theme and the bridge in Bowie’s Loving the Alien?

    (1:24-ish)
    Oh, ignore me. This is old news according to google and also this very website.
    This might be common knowledge too but the Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine track ‘Surfin’ USM’ begins with a sample from Bodyswap. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yMRVmkMlk6M

    Indeed, said clip opens the album itself!

    in reply to: Mundane observation dome #267258
    Welding Mallet
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    Series V is probably the most accomplished of them all (please don’t hit me), but I do get annoyed at the level of Kryten’s exposition skills. In the very same series where it is confirmed to us that he’s a lavatory attendant he somehow knows what a Psi-Moon is.

    Just makes the overlooking of Hattie Holly all the more sad…

    in reply to: Jokes you don't/didn't get #267256
    Welding Mallet
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    Oh, and in relation to comments waaaaay up-thread, I think the joke is that we’re meant to know “it’s a funny old game” wasn’t Kevin Keegan’s catchphrase. A little on the niche side, but considering that in the next series references to Shay Brennan and Tony Dunne almost made it to broadcast it makes sense.

    “Buchan and McQueen” in ‘Holoship’ has Doug written all over it too.

    in reply to: Jokes you don't/didn't get #267255
    Welding Mallet
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    If John-Jules’ had emphasised the “know” rather than the “shop”, then it might not have taken me 27 years to get it. What a senseless waste!;)

    Have a few more:

    Dear old “What’s an iguana?”, of course.

    I didn’t immediately latch on to “Don’t eat greasy food?” as Boyle’s Fourth Law, but stone me it’s such a terrible joke anyway I clearly wasn’t missing much.

    Going to the lengths of making a 1988-friendly reference like “Peter Beardsley” but then pairing it with “Myra Binglebat” seemed odd. Why not “Nina Myskow” or someone?

    “Eastbourne” in ‘White Hole’ was one I gave the Lisa Simpson “traditional-British-wit?” response to for much of my youth!

    I like that Zero-G sports such as Football and Kick Boxing sit so comfortably alongside Wimbledon….

    “Toilet stop in rattlesnake country” was another one, possibly because that’s the only place I haven’t heard it called “bathroom break”..

    in reply to: Jokes you don't/didn't get #267230
    Welding Mallet
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    Oh blimey!

    in reply to: Your Unpopular Red Dwarf Opinions #267229
    Welding Mallet
    Participant

    Have another one for free (now that I’ve actually read the whole thread!)..

    The series should have been promoted to BBC One from VI onwards.

    in reply to: Your Unpopular Red Dwarf Opinions #267226
    Welding Mallet
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    ‘Back To Reality’ is too short to be considered the all-time-great it is…er…considered to be. If anything needed to be a two-parter, it’s that one.

    in reply to: Jokes you don't/didn't get #267225
    Welding Mallet
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    I’ve never quite got the “Duty Free Shop” line in ‘Psirens’. Is Cat comparing the meteorite to an airport?

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