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  • #327213
    Jonsmad
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    https://youtu.be/LnsObw1dNmQ

    Armstrong & Miller sketch shows made more impact in the 2000’s in its BBC iteration. But it started in the 90s on Paramount comedy, even  Jessica Hynes/Stephenson at the start of her career was in it alongside future Red Dwarf guest star Sarah Alexander. Then it transferred to channel four and had 4 series. 


    I had never seen it in full, previous uploads had audio issues or missing episodes. I’ve now found the whole lot uploaded to YouTube. 

    Bizarrely in series 3 I have discovered the alternative truth that (Craig Charles played by Ben Miller!) was a war time poet, in tribute to his real life skills of course. Later in these short surreal juxtaposition sketches the duo work their poetry up into creating episodes of Red Dwarf. How utterly bizarre.  It starts at 15.30 in the above link if your bothered to check this oddity. It’s probably only funny in context of their wider shows approach anyway. But yeah have a look if you want. 


    And sure yes let’s all be shocked by 90s attitude to black face here, but I think it’s clear it’s not racial targeted comedy, you wouldn’t do it that way now. et’s point also to Ben miller on current bbc I player having developed a comedy containing autism as a topic of discussion with an actor supported in this lead role and maybe he isn’t 2026’s biggest bad guy for historic mistakes etc. 






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  • #327214
    Dave
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    Interesting, I’ve never seen this. Funny idea even if it doesn’t really go anywhere.

    I presume it wasn’t picked up again in future episodes?

    #327215
    Jonsmad
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    I don’t think so. “It doesn’t really go anywhere” is an astute criticism of their early work for sure. There are bits that baffle me to what they find funny. Their nude vets sketches feels now rather Austin powers, but at the time was probably sub hale & pace to be honest.   I’ve seen series 4 and nothing carry’s on in that but I havnt seen the final episode of this series 3 yet in its full broadcast lenght. 

    #327218
    Asclepius
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    Ooh, this takes me back. Probably the first ‘too old for me sketch comedy’ that I found by myself. I thought it was absolutely amazing at the time, but obviously there is and was better.

    And Armstrong is like Chris Barrie, but he’s got access to print interviews, rather than just writing it up on his own HTML editor.

    #327219
    Asclepius
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    Just watched the sketch(es). That was really funny, but a weird set-up. Did they think Craig *wrote* RD?
    The things I remember from A&M that I thought were the Funniest Things I’d Ever Seen:
    A family are sitting down to watch a video tape from their cousins in Australia checking in and saying how things are going. The kids are watching. Then the tape cuts off into static and you see the parents going at it, the woman in front and the guy behind. Both are wearing pig masks. “Go on, give it to me you big pig man” says the woman. The kids are horrified. That absolutely blew my mind. It was way beyond anything I’d ever seen growing up with more tame things I’d have watched with my parents.
    A scientist is looking into a microscope or similar. He’s checking things and then looks up into the camera. “Oh my god” he says, “it’s going to piss down”. It cuts to him in the street trying to get people in. He rescues a woman and her kid. The kid says “Are you going to be my new Daddy?”. Again, hilarious. It felt like the plot of every family-suitable adventure film we’d ever watched as a family. And this was spoofing it. Amazing.
    Jack Force and Chuffy. Outstanding. I remember it so well.
    The two guys at a job interview being interviewed for one job. They’re asked to tell, essentially, a good story about something that happened to them. One tells an hilarious story that everyone loves. The other pauses, in horror and slowly pulls out “I….smelt…my….dead dad”.
    Again, I’d never seen anything that weird.
    Also…Nude Practice….
    But Armstrong is still an absolute twat.

    #327222
    Jonsmad
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    Yeah we all know Craig Charles didn’t write Red Dwarf. Richard O’callaghan did. 

    #327223
    Jonsmad
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    Those are all great sketches you listed, I did like them especially the “it’s pissing it down” movie, like a low rent Twister. 

    I’m enjoying the cop duo Parsons & Lampkin… and Parsons mate Steve. Like the professionals or Starsky & Hutch and then a bloke just tagging along from the all night garage. 

    #327227
    Asclepius
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    Looking at the transmission dates, it was Series 1 and 2 I would have seen. With Series 3 – as with Red Dwarf VIII I was gone from the family home.

    Hence my memories of Red Dwarf VIII involve watching odd episodes either back visiting my parents, or in someone’s room in Uni Halls of residence or, on one triumphal occasion, being in the IT lab late in the evening, and we managed to turn the monitor that showed the external CCTV cam into one that was showing BBC1.

    So I watched one episode tiny and in black and white. Wish I could remember which one it was. I certainly saw Cassandra when it was shown, as a lecturer referred to it at a seminar a day or two later.

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    Unrumble
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    #327233
    Dave
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    as with Red Dwarf VIII I was gone from the family home

    This makes it sound like you were evicted for watching Red Dwarf VIII. Which is understandable if a little harsh.

    #327242
    Asclepius
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    as with Red Dwarf VIII I was gone from the family home
    This makes it sound like you were evicted for watching Red Dwarf VIII. Which is understandable if a little harsh.

    Haha! Given my mother’s sense of ‘humour’, if she watched it, it would have been the first Dwarf she’d have enjoyed.

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