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  • #222819

    NoFro

    Red Dwarf XII is now up for pre-order on Amazon UK. Release date November 20th.

    Only a DVD at the moment. Hopefully that changes…

    #222821

    flanl3

    Argh. Seems you all are getting it first this time around. The US one is marked for November 21st.

    #222836

    NoFro

    Also listed on Base.com. Both DVD and Blu Ray.

    #222850

    McAleeCh

    Here’s hoping there’s also a steelbook release with the XI episode titles listed on the back…! ; )

    #222853

    International Debris

    Slightly unimpressed (but, given it was the first promo shot, not surprised) with the ‘Everybody’s Kryten’ cover. The last two have just had generic crew shots, which I think would suit it a little better.

    #222854

    Darrell

    Yeah, I’d have gone for the standard XII bunkroom publicity pic as per X and XI. I like that photo but it’s going to confuse people in ASDA. It almost resembles a pic they’d use on a VHS ‘Byte’, too specific for a full series. Am I right in saying that this isn’t even a large portion of the episode?

    Also, it’s still weird that so much of the marketing revolves around episode *2*.

    #222856

    Dave

    Am I right in saying that this isn’t even a large portion of the episode?

    Maybe we can wait until we’ve had a chance to see it before we answer that.

    #222857

    Darrell

    I’m only going off the set report, I may be wrong.

    #222861

    International Debris

    Yeah, I think the images of Lister and Rimmer in Kryten get-up as part of the reverse sleeve, I-VIII-style, would work fine, but it does seem to look a bit like ‘This is the series where they’re all Kryten!’

    #222868

    NoFro

    Yeah if you’re not familiar with the show you’re probably going to think it’s a whole show about robots. That might grab some people, I guess.

    #222869

    Katydid

    This is NOT necessarily the final cover. It’s missing the Dave logo like on the XI cover, and XI’s listing originally came with that atrocious temp cover missing The Cat. Everyone freaked out over that when it was obviously some shitty temp Photoshop job.

    …maybe because Series X’s cover looked like a shitty temp Photoshop job.

    My point is this is almost certainly not the final cover, and we’re most likely getting the standard crew shot to match XI.

    #223177

    Darrell

    Tip if you haven’t got Prime – Amazon’s pre-order price is currently about £22, which means that you can get it with free postage without having to add anything to it, and they’re guaranteed to drop the price considerably before release.

    #223192

    si

    The Blu-ray is £16.99 on Zavvi, DVD £14.99.

    #223197

    Darrell

    Amazon’s will be at least that too soon, whatever HMV price it as basically will dictate the online stores. But at least I can get it Super Saver without having to add any other bumph. I’ve spent enough lately…

    #223198

    Darrell

    Amazon always overprice early on as it makes the discounts look better once they’ve been added to everyone’s wishlists. But it never stays there, it’s just a bit of psychology. At least this way I can play them at their own game.

    #223474

    Jape of the Decade

    Any more details emerging regarding the DVD/Blu-ray release? It’s still showing up on Amazon with the ‘Everyone is Kryten’ cover (I’m hopeful this isn’t the actual chosen cover), but as we are nearing the end of the season just wandering if there had been more detail regarding the release, art work, special features etc…?

    #223475

    cwickham

    Nothing’s gone through the BBFC yet, which I find surprising.

    #223486

    sd99

    DVD on amazon is now down to 12.99 btw

    #223654

    cwickham

    Well, we now know David Ross is on the XII docco.

    https://twitter.com/NathanCubitt/status/926568238884024321

    #223682

    Ben Paddon

    On word on a steelbook yet? Nothing listed on Amazon so far.

    #224173

    sd99

    Any word on the flip cover? I assume there will be one?

    #224244

    It’sMarilynMonroe!

    <blockquote cite=”Well, we now know David Ross is on the XII docco.
    https://twitter.com/NathanCubitt/status/926568238884024321“>

    “Part exchange welcome” — Now *there’s* a Cat-insulting-Rimmer gag just waiting to be used.

    #224245

    It’sMarilynMonroe!

    Rats.

    #224323

    sd99

    Nice to see you know who from Skipper on the spine of the alternative DVD.

    #224324

    si

    Nice to see you know who from Skipper on the spine of the alternative DVD.

    Yeah, good job people buying episodes of Red Dwarf on DVD have usually seen them on TV, or at least have some knowledge of what happens (from TV trailers etc), or else it’d be like putting ‘JE’S A GHOST’

    #224325

    si

    Fuck this phone and it’s autocorrect and inability to post properly.

    *ahem*

    …it’d be like putting ‘HE’S A GHOST!’ on the front cover of that film. You know the one.

    #224326

    Seb Patrick

    Ghostbusters?

    #224327

    bloodteller

    no i think he means The Sixth Sense

    #224328

    Pete Part Three

    >it’d be like putting ‘HE’S A GHOST!’ on the front cover of that film. You know the one.

    Or the Statue of Liberty on the front of the Planet of the Apes cover.

    Oh. Wait.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Planet-Apes-Box-Set-DVD/dp/B002DGTRD0/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1510317146&sr=8-10&keywords=planet+of+the+apes

    #224330

    Darrell

    Anyone spotted the strapline which offers “140 minutes of extras”? That’s 50 more than XI had…

    #224331

    Lily

    >it’d be like putting ‘HE’S A GHOST!’ on the front cover of that film. You know the one.

    Ghost?

    #224332

    Seb Patrick

    >no i think he means The Sixth Sense

    There’s no ghost in the Sixth Sense. I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of Unbreakable.

    #224333

    sd99

    > Anyone spotted the strapline which offers “140 minutes of extras”? That’s 50 more than XI had…

    I’m hoping 28 of those are the *real* version of Timewave and Doug was just having a joke with the one that’s been show on telly…

    50 mins is a lot extra tho – extended episodes maybe?

    That’s also 2 blue covers in a row…

    #224335

    International Debris

    Not keen on blue again, although it’s contrasted with white. Also having all four in the corner rather than just Lister and Rimmer. I’ll probably be keeping the ‘official’ cover.

    #224336

    International Debris

    50 mins is a lot extra tho – extended episodes maybe?

    Or just up to the standard of the previous ones.

    #224337

    Darrell

    That’s 70 minutes more if you count the gap left by 20 minutes of model shots we’ve already had.

    I’d be happy with a documentary that doesn’t feel chopped down to fit a time limit, a fuller selection of deleted scenes, and a Smeg Ups reel like we used to get. That was the biggest heartbreak of the XI release, especially after how *perfect* the one on X was. All my issues with the XI extras were down to them rushing and skipping – what was there was great, there just wasn’t enough of it.

    #224338

    Pete Part Three

    >There’s no ghost in the Sixth Sense. I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of Unbreakable.

    Don’t start that again, Seb.

    #224348

    cwickham

    I suspect most of the runtime is a longer documentary – we already know that XII didn’t go quite as swimmingly as XI did.

    #224349

    International Debris

    I wonder if the slightly disappointed reaction to the undercooked extras of XI played any part in this lengthier selection. If the documentary is as in-depth as the I-X ones, and the deleted scenes and smeg ups are all left intact, then that’s likely as good an extras package as we can realistically expect at this point, and one I’d be more than satisfied with.

    #224350

    si

    Realised earlier that the reverse sleeve is the first of that ‘traditional’ template to feature all four cast members. It’s usually just Rimmer and Lister, even if the other side features all of them.

    So that’s interesting, innit?

    #224353

    Renegade Rob

    Meh. It’s a decent group shot but one that’s would better belong on the back. As a fan of consistency, I really would’ve liked shots of just Rimmer and Lister. Like Old M-Corp Lister and either Mechocracy Candidate Rimmer or Skipper old-school Rimmer. Even just the two of them as Krytens would have been fine. But four is right out.

    #224354

    si

    As a fan of consistency, I really would’ve liked shots of just Rimmer and Lister.

    Me too, absolutely.

    ‘Fan of consistency’ and ‘anal, pedantic bastard’ are the same thing, right?

    #224357

    Renegade Rob

    One hundred percent.

    #224358

    cwickham

    Hitler or Aniter should’ve been on the spine. (Maybe even Talkie Toaster.) I get why they’ve gone for Holly, but it’s going to annoy me no end.

    #224359

    Pete Part Three

    I don’t actually buy the DVDs any more. (I know, I’m awful). Do they still alternate the size of the “series x” font on the spine, just to cover the mistake they made with Series Two?

    #224360

    Katydid

    I suspect most of the runtime is a longer documentary – we already know that XII didn’t go quite as swimmingly as XI did.

    Perhaps Series XII just has more story to tell.

    #224362

    Katydid

    Oh, and let’s not forget that the XII doc could potentially address the overall production in a more retrospective manner. XI’s simply could not do that for virtue of half the episodes still being a year away, and for presumably being locked down before any of its own episodes had aired.

    #224363

    si

    )Do they still alternate the size of the “series x” font on the spine

    Unforgivably, the series number on the covers of series XI & XII aren’t in bold. And on the XII sleeve cover, the ‘XII’ is the same size as the ‘RED DWARF’.

    I know. Shocking, isn’t it?

    #224364

    cwickham

    Rundown of the XI extras
    Behind the scenes: 52 mins 48 secs
    Deleted scenes: 14 mins
    Smeg Ups: 5 mins 35 secs
    Trailers & promos: 2 mins 55 secs
    VFX: 1 min 37 secs
    Model shots: 19 mins 30 secs
    Photo gallery: 5 mins 25 secs

    Totalling about 102 mins. Note that the XI cover advertises ‘over 90 mins’, so presumably doesn’t include the photo gallery in that runtime. Either way, we can presume that the XII DVD has put on about 38 mins. So a longer docco and more deleted scenes?

    #224365

    Me Own Stunts

    > Rundown of the XI extras

    We probably don’t need to speculate about the Red Dwarf XI DVD release anymore, though.

    #224366

    flanl3

    50 extra minutes approximately accounts for all the deleted scenes from Cured.

    #224373

    International Debris

    I, personally, am looking forward to Timewave Xtended, which runs for 65 minutes, and includes five minutes of the camp chap mincing around going ‘ooh’ in a very effeminate way while Cat and Lister projectile vomit.

    #224401

    Renegade Rob

    I would actually respect it if the 50 minutes is an Xtended Mechocracy with the final scene with Talkie and Rimmer stretched out 50 minutes with Talkie’s “would you like some toast” non-stop and then Rimmer’s face slowly changing into different levels of anguish.

    #224413

    RamesesNiblickTheThird

    70 minutes extra must be for the audio commentaries?

    #224415

    cwickham

    Audio commentaries generally aren’t included in the extras runtime. So no.

    #224417

    International Debris

    I also doubt they’d do commentaries on two and a third episodes.

    #224427

    Renegade Rob

    They get a third of the way through Timewave and are like, “Nope. Can’t do it. We’re out.”

    #224435

    Ben Saunders

    The Timewave commentary would be half Robert saying “now this is funny, oh look at that CGI”, and half Danny shouting “CLASSIC LINE! CLASSIC LINE!”, just like all the rest. With a light sprinkling of Chris saying “I don’t remember any of this”. Craig is off (being) sick.

    #224437

    bloodteller

    weren’t the commentaries mostly “oooh chris, ham and cheese” “lunchbox HAM” and other things such as that? i haven’t actually listened to many of them so i don’t really know if they’re all like that.

    i do remember one Series VII commentary where everyone was unsure if the 2D shitty CGI starbug was a model or not, though

    #224441

    Ben Saunders

    Oh yes, they spend around 40% of the runtime of the entire show calling things either ham or pony. There’s a VI commentary where Bobby watches a model shot, and says “ah yes, look at that lovely CGI – can’t do that with models!”

    #224453

    flanl3

    All 50 extra minutes are just one shot in the documentary where Doug Naylor is adding as many words as he can to an insult about millennials.

    #224462

    Ben Saunders

    Millennials Are Killing Doug Naylor

    #224470

    International Debris

    The cast commentaries are quite funny, despite all the constant repeating ham jokes and fairly terrible taste when it comes to the show (“This one is classic Dwarf” – Bobby, on Krytie TV), it’s really nice to hear the guys having a nice time. But they’re rarely that informative, and often full of mistakes.
    Doug’s commentary BtE and the Rob & Doug / Doug & Ed commentaries on the Bodysnatcher box are by far the best.

    #224473

    Darrell

    I don’t go to the cast commentaries for trivia, I go for pure comfort.

    #224480

    Pete Part Three

    I listen to one and feel like I’ve heard them all.

    #224493

    bloodteller

    the commentary on The End: The Original Assembly is truly where it’s at, featuring such highlights as-

    ROB GRANT (miming Todhunter): There are five people on this ship, Rimmer…

    DOUG- the audience was full of old ladies who thought they were watching A Question of Sport

    ROB GRANT: do we really believe this is the Drive Room of a ship 3 miles long… it’s one step away from just having a bloody steering wheel.

    the other commentaries on the Bodysnatcher Collection were quite good too tbh

    #224497

    cwickham

    The Bodysnatcher Collection is the best DVD set ever released.

    #224498

    Renegade Rob

    How awesome was Norman on the VIII commentary? Classic.

    #224500

    si

    Ages since I listened to the commentaries. They’re brilliant, but the problem is how they age. Those first couple of series are 15 years old now, and there are dated references and all-sorts. Even Red Dwarf VIII was in pretty recent memory at the time.

    #224501

    RamesesNiblickTheThird

    I like the commentaries a lot and they are greatly missed. Hoping they return for the final box set when the show ends.

    Part of the extra minutes could be for the ‘When everyone was Kryten’ documentary which is surely inevitable??

    #224508

    Ben Saunders

    As much as I make fun of the commentaries, I do rather enjoy them. Having Chris Barrie commentate on the whole of VII should be interesting.

    #224509

    RamesesNiblickTheThird

    If you you want to be reminded how great everyone is together listen to the empire podcast which has just been posted in the other thread.

    #224521

    Katydid

    Hitler or Aniter should’ve been on the spine.

    I just adore the idea of featuring Hitler on the spine.

    #224522

    Ben Saunders

    I’d be afraid some places (particularly specific countries in Europe) might refuse to stock it, if it had Hitler on the cover.

    That said, I wonder how Cured went down in Germany? I know videogames such as Wolfenstein 3D and Doom had difficulties over there due to Nazi imagery, but does camp Not Hitler count as Nazi imagery? Or have they gotten over it since the 90s? I’m sure the public were fine with it – there’s nothing objectionable in the show – but what did the censor people think?

    Wolf 3D had them remove all the moustaches off of the Hitler paintings so they just looked like some vaguely Hitler-esque dude.

    I don’t know how to phrase “went down in Germany” better, that’s not exactly what I mean, but it’s as close as I can get. Basically I’m asking if having Hitler in things is OK now.

    #224523

    Ben Saunders

    Great, now I’m googling whether or not you’re allowed to use Hitler’s likeness without paying his family/somebody

    #224524

    Katydid

    I’d be afraid some places (particularly specific countries in Europe) might refuse to stock it, if it had Hitler on the cover.

    This is exactly the kind of reason I adore the idea of featuring Hitler on the spine. It’d be gratuitously controversial in certain people’s eyes.

    #224529

    Ben Saunders

    I think that’s the same thought behind putting Timewave on the DVD

    #224530

    Katydid

    Yes, but as one long Deleted Scene.

    #224540

    flanl3

    30 minutes of extras will be a feature entitled “more entertaining than Timewave” and will be half an hour of all sorts of incredibly entertaining things like Craig squawking around at the end of Quarantine, the entire cast saying that people didn’t like Back to Earth because they didn’t have laughs, and the scene where Hollister explains Pete’s full meal and what happened next stretched out to take seven minutes.

    #224545

    Hamish

    > This is exactly the kind of reason I adore the idea … It’d be gratuitously controversial in certain people’s eyes.

    Like having a camp man in a pink dress. They should have put Ziggy on the spine.

    #224558

    Me Own Stunts

    <img src=”https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2a/3f/db/2a3fdb8917882a6882512a9174235e16.jpg”

    #224559

    Me Own Stunts

    Okay, that didn’t work. It was a spine-ready image of Ziggy, anyway.

    #224565

    si

    *follows link* Well played.

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