Some women are such total Gannons!

[Jo]

http://fanboywife.blogspot.com/2010/07/red-dingus-back-to-earth-movie.html

I may be paraphrasing here but basically the blog says: “WAHWAHWAH! My boyfriend/husband is a geek, poor me :(“

He watched Red Dwarf, mostly while she wasn’t there! Can you believe it? What a prick eh?

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[redhead85]

A lot of the guys in my office like Red Dwarf, which makes for FAR more interesting chat in the pub (along with other geekery) than some of the crap TV the girls talk about (we’re talking about the types who watch Living TV and are on Team Jordan or Team Peter here *shudder*)

One of them (who has just got married and is hurtling towards 40) is not allowed to watch Red Dwarf when she’s in the house. I once lent him BTE and he had it for a month. He then gave it back to me and apologised, saying he hadn’t got round to seeing it as his wife wouldn’t let him.

BITCH.

[TheLeen]

Why do you waste your time with reading what daft people think they have to say?

I’m in a so much better state since I started to just keep away from that sort of thing. It really isn’t worth it.

[Jo]

It popped up in my Red Dwarf Google alert, I didn’t go looking for it.

[Seb Patrick]

I like your comment :-D

[Jo]

:oP

[Ben Paddon]

You can either embrace the love of your life and accept all of their little weird habits and foibles, or you can be a total wank and set up a blog where you passive-aggressively moan about it all.

[Seb Patrick]

The thing is, there probably is scope for a good blog on what it’s like to be in love with somebody who’s deeply passionate about all of this stuff that you simply can’t engage or connect with. An exploration of why certain types of people become “fanboys” (or fangirls), a catalogue of the “ordinary” person’s reactions to the different subject matters (are certain franchises more appealing than others in this sense?), amusing tales of being dragged to conventions or the financial excesses of the collector, an opportunity for the site’s readers, fellow “widows”, to share their own stories. All written in a lively, entertaining, non-patronising way with a modicum of self-deprecating wit. Designed to actually be an aid to people who want to better understand their other halves’ obsessions rather than distance themselves from them.

Instead:

Now, when I was a teenager Buffy the Vampire Slayer was on the air, but I don’t recall it being that popular. I had two friends that watched it, but I never saw an episode myself. It certainly wasn’t trendy enough to get teenagers to bite each other. I guess vampires today have better marketing campaigns.

[pfm]

Tbh I think it would be boring as heck if you liked everything your girlfriend liked and vice versa.

You might think you’d get a better relationship out of loving everything she loves but…er, Twilight can fuck itself right up the wrong un as far as I care (and admit it girls, you’ve imagined Taylor doing that to you, half-transformed ofc so he’s more like an animal…er yep), I’m not gonna love it just ’cause she loves it, and while we do have plenty of common likes it’s also great to have enough of your own thing so you can…get out of each other’s faces for a while…

[Blisschick]

Sadly, my daughter is addicted to the Twilight crap not-real-vampires and my husband to Star Trek Voyager, which IMO, both suck badly. I could bitch and moan about how fed up I am with hearing/watching something I find utterly boring, but I don’t (very often, although I do express the wonderment of how they could possibly like it). I’m the one who is re-watching every episode of Red Dwarf every couple of months, so I really don’t have much room to say anything. We all have shows in common we like to watch, and we all have other ones we don’t, so nobody is “forbidden” to watch any one show in particular.

BUT…if I have to hear that Chakotay has the bridge one more time, I may kill someone.

AND…if I have to hear how absolutely gorgeous Robert Pattinson is again, I may have to kill myself.

[hummingbird]

I feel for you, Blisschick. I have a couple of fangirl girl friends who are normally addicted to perfectly reasonable things like Who, but have now succombed to the evil that is Twilight. I was dragged around Collectormania few weeks ago just so they could get a few glimpses of somone who was a wolf, or something(?).
And Robert Pattinson is a big girl who needs a good slapping, imho.

[Seb Patrick]

A certain ex of mine who shall remain nameless, who had the gall to be sneery and condescending about my liking of Doctor Who for four years, is now apparently terrifyingly obsessed with Twilight. I just don’t get it.

But then, she liked Demons, as well.

[redhead85]

> AND…if I have to hear how absolutely gorgeous Robert Pattinson is again, I may have to kill myself.

Robert Pattinson is NOT attractive in any way shape or form. And Twilight (both in book and film form) leaves me totally and utterly un-smegging-gripp-ed. I have no desire to watch or read thank you kindly. ^__^

Judgemental? Watashi?

[genericnerdyusername]

Robert Pattinson has a foot for a face.

[Andrew]

So for having a different – and admittedly ridiculous – take on fan culture, we’ve decided this one person deserves harassment and top-of-the-swear-box name-calling in a thread intended to demonise her? (A thread which, surely, will tracked back through the blog’s stats.)

Call me crazy, but I’m not sure this is claiming the higher ground.

How about the whacky notion of reasoned counter-argument? Replaying with hate just means there’s more hate.

[pfm]

> Robert Pattinson is NOT attractive in any way shape or form. And Twilight (both in book and film form) leaves me totally and utterly un-smegging-gripp-ed. I have no desire to watch or read thank you kindly. ^__^

Yessssss there is hope for woman-kind after all!! Can I have your babies pleeease?? :P

[redhead85]

> Yessssss there is hope for woman-kind after all!! Can I have your babies pleeease?? :P

FluffyWok might have some objection to that, I’m afraid… ^__^ He’s gonna have my babies one day, haha.

[Fluffy Wok]

So for having a different – and admittedly ridiculous – take on fan culture, we’ve decided this one person deserves harassment and top-of-the-swear-box name-calling in a thread intended to demonise her?

Who’s claiming the higher ground? This lady very clearly doesn’t like/get Red Dwarf. We don’t hate her for that. I’ve read a couple of the other bits of the blog and she moans about her fanboy liking comics (DC stuff, the Flash and Supes mainly, letting you know he is a yank) but it doesn’t get the same ire as Dwarf.

I see this thread of more of a general lament that she can hate Red Dwarf enough that she can’t listen to a conversation about it second hand. That and a general misguided stab at the geek phenomena as a whole.

Swearing isn’t hate, its just extra vocabulary

[Fluffy Wok]

And hands off monkeyboy

[Seb Patrick]

>How about the whacky notion of reasoned counter-argument?

I’m not sure how you can “reasonably” counter-argue with something that doesn’t have a properly-argued tenet in the first place. The blog mainly just seems to consist of “look at all of these nerdy things, I don’t get them” and nothing else of substance. Yet it seems to portray itself as being… well, the various things that I mentioned above would actually make a worthy blog on this subject.

Name-calling is perhaps a little harsh but I can see why Jo was annoyed at the manner of the posting(s).

[Seb Patrick]

Also, re “top of the swear box” – come on, all things are relative, and you’ve been around here long enough to know that around these parts, that word is not held to have the same extreme impact that it would elsewhere. And the swearing was contained to this environment.

[Andrew]

> around these parts, that word is not held to have the same extreme impact that it would elsewhere.

I’m doubt when she tracks back the link, that will be the first thing she realises. Didn’t work that way with the Rob Grant headline, did it?

> The blog mainly just seems to consist of “look at all of these nerdy things, I don’t get them” and nothing else of substance.

I entirely agree. And I’m unimpressed. Not sure that means the person’s a cunt, though. And even if it did, I’m not sure that warrants creating the bad day discovering people calling you that brings. It’s dismissive of the human – which, okay, happens all the time, but that doesn’t make it right.

While there’s certainly an argument that ‘if you publish, any feedback is legit’, that kind of attack upsets me. It’s an ‘only on the internet’ way of hurting someone, deliberately, for their (pretty bloody innocuous) opinion.

> Who’s claiming the higher ground?

No, okay, you’re right – there’s no higher ground. The name-calling is exactly as senseless as the original blog. Only targeted specifically at a person rather than being a general (and clumsy) commentary on personal taste.

Wouldn’t going for the higher ground be better, though? There’s a reasoned argument to be made. All name-calling does is make the name-caller feel better. It doesn’t cause the blogger to reflect or learn. It doesn’t enhance the debate.

> Swearing isn’t hate, its just extra vocabulary

Swearing isn’t hate. Unironically calling someone a cunt is pretty damn close.

[ori-STUDFARM]

I dunno….some of my best friends are cunts!

[Blisschick]

>friends who are normally addicted to perfectly reasonable things like Who

Thankfully, there’s that. All of us watch Who, even a few friends of ours, and my daughter has friends at school who are able to watch it on BBCA. The hubby watched all the Torchwood series and Sarah Jane Chronicles. I guess they’re keepers after all. :P

[pfm]

> Replaying with hate just means there’s more hate.

This, I am afraid, is a species-spanning trait that has a lot to answer for.

> Seriously. The air must be pretty thin where you’re sitting though, perhaps that’s why you’re so fucking irritable?

Wow.

Btw, the thread title IS going a tad too far. Don’t want to get into the argument of how jokey it is; the main thing is that it just doesn’t look good… Maybe I have a thing about women and cunts…

[Jo]

FFS. Fine, can an admin change it/delete it please because I can’t. Thank you.

[Jo]

*post deleted*

[Jo]

*post deleted*

I’ve deleted my responses because:
1. some things I said were just mean and I regret typing angry
and
2. I don’t have the energy right now to explain or defend myself endlessly in a place that I like.

Please accept my genuine apologies for any offence caused.

[Seb Patrick]

Thread title amended as per request.

[John Hoare]

Thread title amended as per request.

You cunt.

[redhead85]

> Thread title amended as per request.

*snigger*

[hummingbird]

Best thread title ever.

[genericnerdyusername]

Your comment has to be approved before it’s posted? Or is that just if you’re posting as anonymous? I couldn’t be bothered to sign in…
If it gets monitored anyway, I feel my freedom of speech is being pissed on and IT’S NOT EVEN ON FIRE.
It’s just like calling scientology a cult, honestly…

[genericnerdyusername]

Ooops, I should’ve pointed out I’m talking about the fanboy website. Not this one. Thankyou for your time.

[pfm]

And the reason the word ‘some’ wasn’t altered was…?

[redhead85]

> And the reason the word ‘some’ wasn’t altered was…?

Your mum.

[Fluffy Wok]

hehe, your mum

[pfm]

And yours…

Darn, it’s a mum threesome…

[redhead85]

> Darn, it’s a mum threesome…

*shudder* No thanks…. ^__^

[Ridley]

FFS. Fine, can an admin change it/delete it please because I can’t. Thank you.

You do realise you backtracked on a call for taste from the guy who linked to a beastiality site, right? :p

[pfm]

Yeah but there’s a time and a place for sex with animals…

Meanwhile, to enter the real world for just a moment, if anyone uses the word ‘cunt’ in front of me, in any context, I look at them and think ‘you sorry idiot’. I never strongly swear either. Typing those words is another matter. It’s far too easy – and tempting – to offend with text.

[Andrew]

> I never strongly swear either.

And yet you’re fine with trolling. That’s quite the value system you’ve got there.

[Phil]

Best thread eva.

[pfm]

> And yet you’re fine with trolling. That’s quite the value system you’ve got there.

Oh get to fuck. :P

It’s not trolling, I like to call it keeping an eye on things…

[Jo]

Performing Monkey doesn’t swear in real life, well I do, so fuck him and fuck you too.

[genericnerdyusername]

Is anyone going to fuck me?

[Danny Stephenson]

Not here, it’s too sandy…

[pfm]

Yeah, talk about sandpit time – great big smug, sand-riddled vaginas masquerading as sentient lifeforms partaking in dirty discussional coitus? Who woulda thunk?

*sigh* okay it may be 5 years overdue but I’m shooting this monkey stone dead. BANG…you’d hit the wall…

[Author]

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