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  • #89822
    TheLeen
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    Why clearly?

    #89823
    thomasaevans
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    New studio, new producers, new writers. Highly unlikley they’d keep some of the former cast. This seems more like a reboot than a sequel. It Chris IS in It, I’ll eat my hat (And be totally overjoyed)but Im pretty sure this is a fresh start for Lara Croft.

    #89831
    Tarka Dal
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    > Why clearly?

    Well there’s no reason it can’t be a good film, or even a successful franchise. It just needs to be a lot better than the previous attempt.

    #89833
    thomasaevans
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    http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=52365

    Officially a reboot. Sounds promising as a decent film though.

    #89834
    ChrisM
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    “insiders have tipped Transformers star Megan Fox to take on the role made famous by Angelina Jolie.”

    She’s a lovely looking girl Megan Fox but… please… no.

    Give an up and coming English actress* a chance if you have to do this.

    I always thought they should have done that in the first place… although Angelina Jolie turned out to be rather good. (Not that I’m a fan of the films themselves, but I liked her take on the character.)

    *In case that sound prejudiced, I just prefer it when people match actors with characters of their own nationality. Less chance of fake accents that way. And I like the idea of giving new local(ish) actors a break rather than bypassing them for big names elsewhere. I’d think the same if the character were American. That being said, there are exceptions.

    #89835
    TheLeen
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    What Chris said.

    #89849
    Tarka Dal
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    The thing is a movie like Tomb Raider is about event, hype and buzz. Megan Fox is a name that will drag a lot of people (well okay, a lot of men) to the cinema and generate free-advertising for the movie. Miss Unknown wouldn’t do this.

    Think of previous games which have become films. The game name generates a bit of hype, but once the stars are announced if there’s no star power, no known actor or director involved then the hype switches to something which does. Meanwhile the no-star project rightly or wrongly looks cheap or b-movie fodder by comparison.

    An actor’s nationality shouldn’t really matter either. If they are a decent actor/actress then they should be able to pull of an authentic accent. Of course we know that works much better in theory.

    #89851
    Zombie Jim Undead
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    It’s a difficult casting choice. Lara Croft is a pretty iconic character with an established fan-base….all of who have a very good idea of how she looks, sounds and acts.

    Personally, I’d go for Su Pollard.

    #89854
    Andrew
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    I maintain that Silent Hill is the only good videogame-to-movie adaptation. Not necessarily pleasing to game fans, but I thought the tone was wonderfully relentless.

    #89853
    ChrisM
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    The thing is a movie like Tomb Raider is about event, hype and buzz. Megan Fox is a name that will drag a lot of people (well okay, a lot of men) to the cinema and generate free-advertising for the movie.

    True in part, but I think the right advertising can still go a long way in promoting unknowns. Guys like a good looking female ragardless of whether or not she is famous.

    Sure, the production team would be taking more of a chance with lesser known actors, but I still think it could be well worthwhile (in films in general I mean, not just Tomb Raider). Some of the films we see as great hits nowadays involved actors who were largely unknown in the day.

    Good example Star Wars. Harrison Ford, Mark Hamil and Carrie Fisher were not well known actors back then. (Alec Guiness and Alec Guiness were, but they were mainly secondary characters and I don’t think they were promoted as being more than that.) Come to think of it I don’t think George Lucas was that well known a director back then either. American Graffiti. I hadn’t heard of that until looking at teh documentaries on the Star Wars DVDs.

    As for Tomb Raider, it’s such a well known franchise, the name alone would probably do the job for those who watch it for eye candy. Those who want more probably wouldn’t watch it anyway regardless of how well known the actress.

    >An actor?s nationality shouldn?t really matter either.

    I’m in two minds in that. I find it impressive when another nationality manages to pull off an authentic accent. Lena Headey for example, is great as Sarah Connor is T:SCC. Whilst I love her in the role now, I probably wouldn’t have chosen her to start with though, I’d give the role to an American, but I wouldn’t want her changed now.

    In a perfect world it should be the story that sells a film rather than the actors, (that’s what I’m most interested in) but I accept we don’t quite live in that world.

    There is another reason I wouldn’t have Megan Fox in the role of Clara. She’s gorgeous but she doesn’t look quite right to me as that character. As for her acting ability.. I’ve only seen her in Transformers, so I can’t really judge. (She wasn’t bad in that, but she didn’t have much to do except look pretty and kinda sweaty. Not that I’m complaining.)

    #89856
    ChrisM
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    >I maintain that Silent Hill is the only good videogame-to-movie adaptation. Not necessarily pleasing to game fans, but I thought the tone was wonderfully relentless.

    I agree that the tone was spot on! I felt it lost it’s way a bit later on though. Sean Bean’s role was strange. He enters the town, then leaves and… erm that’s it.

    Interesting bit right at the end too.

    #89861
    Zombie Jim Undead
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    > I maintain that Silent Hill is the only good videogame-to-movie adaptation. Not necessarily pleasing to game fans, but I thought the tone was wonderfully relentless.

    Oooh yes…I liked Silent Hill a great deal. Thought it was very underrated. Haven’t played the game, though…just thought it was a decent film.

    Thought Max Payne was reasonably OK too.

    I used to think the Mortal Kombat film was good…but saw it again recently and it’s a pile of baboon spunk.

    #89862
    ChrisM
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    I’ve played Silent Hill 2. It was rather unsettling.

    I’ve never played any Resident Evil although they look a blast.

    #89864
    pfm
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    > I?ve never played any Resident Evil although they look a blast.

    Check out Resident Evil 4. IMO one of the best games ever made. Of course, the original is up there in the all-time greatest list. I remember playing it on the PS1 with the curtains shut, freaking myself out big time.

    #89867
    Zombie Jim Undead
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    Ahhh….Resident Evil. *goes misty eyed*

    Nowt more trouser browning than wrestling with those upside-down controls as a creature of the undead closes in on you.

    #89876
    hummingbird
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    I can’t generate much interest in this.
    Never been a big TR fan, and the first two films were pretty dreadful.

    IMO Chris is better off out of it.
    Although I expect the ???? would be nice.

    #89877
    Tarka Dal
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    > True in part, but I think the right advertising can still go a long way in promoting unknowns. Guys like a good looking female ragardless of whether or not she is famous.

    The point being with a known star you don’t have to advertise anywhere near as much. That person is already in the lads mags.

    > Good example Star Wars. Harrison Ford, Mark Hamil and Carrie Fisher were not well known actors back then. (Alec Guiness and Alec Guiness were, but they were mainly secondary characters and I don?t think they were promoted as being more than that.) Come to think of it I don?t think George Lucas was that well known a director back then either. American Graffiti. I hadn?t heard of that until looking at teh documentaries on the Star Wars DVDs.

    The trouble is cinema worked differently then. The popcorn blockbusters we’re talking about didn’t really exist. Jaws was the probably the first event movie of modern cinema. Back then a feature would open in one part of the country and then, if it was successful enough, open at more theatres. There’s so much competition now that some genuinely awesome films come and go even at a multi-plex in just a couple of weeks. How many sleeper hits have their really been in the last few years?

    I do appreciate what you’re saying. It’s the world I’d prefer to live in too. Look at something like Dead or Alive though, that pretty much tanked at the cinema didn’t it, and that’s with a bevy of lad-mag friendly eye-candy. I’m doubtful the name ‘Tomb Raider’ alone does mean anything major to a cinema audience. Particularly since neither of the previous films did huge business and that’s with Angelina Jolie involved! Whereas in movie terms Megan Fox is hot-property right now, and has Transformers 2 so that would be another boat-load of free advertising to piggy-back a Tomb Raider reboot off.

    Either way I suspect it’s going to be a relatively cheap hit n’ hope attempt at a franchise like Elecktra as opposed to being Warner’s main summer concern.

    #89882
    ChrisM
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    >IMO Chris is better off out of it.

    I probably am. (Although money and sweaty young ladies pointing their bosoms at me and arcing they’re eyebrows in a saucy manner? I might need to think about that…)

    Oh CHRIS BARRIE. Yes quite. Out of it Chris. (Now where’s that rubber mask and the studio back-door…)

    #89887
    Mr-Stabby
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    They might go for Chris if they do a James Bond style reboot. Have a completely new style of film but have a small link to the past for the people who watched the previous movies. Even if it’s just Chris Barrie’s character. Could happen….maybe….perhaps not….

    #89890
    hummingbird
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    >money and sweaty young ladies pointing their bosoms at me and arcing they?re eyebrows in a saucy manner

    All in a day’s work for you, I should think.

    #89896
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I think Chris Barrie should be the new Lara Croft.

    #89897
    ChrisM
    Participant

    They might go for Chris if they do a James Bond style reboot. Have a completely new style of film but have a small link to the past for the people who watched the previous movies. Even if it?s just Chris Barrie?s character.

    I’ve got an image of Chris Barrie with breasts in a tight fitting costume now. Thanks.

    >money and sweaty young ladies pointing their bosoms at me and arcing they?re eyebrows in a saucy manner

    All in a day?s work for you, I should think.

    Heh. I wish. (Actually I’m not sure I would. It’d be like sitting on a raft dying of thirst… except the water all around happens to be the sea.)

    #89912
    NitroChrisUK
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    havent liked any films based on computer games (yet) always looked forward to tomb raider and was dissapointed.. havent seen max payne as of yet .. and all this talk of a halo and metal gear solid movies is kinda worrying i think games should stay games …as for megan fox .. havent seen her in anything but never though jolie suited the role..

    #89915
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > and all this talk of a halo and metal gear solid movies is kinda worrying i think games should stay games

    And in Halo’s case, I’m not convinced it should’ve even become a game. Horrible exercise in over-rated mediocrity.

    #89917
    NitroChrisUK
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    heard all the hype so baught a cheapo xbox and halo 1 and 2 … loved halo 1 good story halo 2 i didnt like at all story just got to ott and 3 well i didnt even bother ..a movie of halo 1 would be ok .. but then they would do the same as the games and blow it into some big massive epic piece of poo

    #89918
    Andrew
    Participant

    Oh bog off. Halo’s a barrel of fun, stupid plot notwithstanding. Great set-pieces. And the AI’s fab.

    #89919
    NitroChrisUK
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    i have to agreee with you there on the set pieces (especially jumping from starship with bomb at start of halo 2 ) but when u start playin as the alien thing i was like ” ohh” why do sequils always have to include 2 playable characters arghhhhh and. why do movies of games never have a single thing to do with the plot of the game(apart from max payne for which i havent seen yet so cant pass comment )

    #89920
    Ridley
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    I maintain that Silent Hill is the only good videogame-to-movie adaptation. Not necessarily pleasing to game fans, but I thought the tone was wonderfully relentless.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_II:_The_Animated_Movie

    Didn’t think the plot was much on Silent Hill but those peeling walls were exactly right.

    —–

    Metal Gear Solid IS Escape from New York/LA but it’s Prince of Persia that I’m hoping is great and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR1KLZb33QM would have been fun.

    #89921
    Phil
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    Um…the best video game to film adaptation is Punch-Out!!

    By a landslide.

    #89926
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    The screen adaptation of Norm’s Post-Coital Pinball is having some financing issues, but I predict that will be my favourite video game movie.

    #89932
    cliff
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    Tomb Raider without Jolie?…..thats just not right!.

    #89936
    James
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    She’s far to busy saving third world babies, to start saving third world antiques.

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