What’ll the ship be like?

[falkirk_craig]

Any news on what type of Red Dwarf ship we’re likely to see in the new specials? I’d dearly love to see the original “red brick” version of Red Dwarf make a comeback. Was never a fan of that far too stylish cgi thing we saw in series VIII…

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[ChrisM]

No news yet.

If they’re keeping with continuity I’d imagine it’ll be the new version. Unless they got hold of a new lot of nanobots and changed the ship back…

[Richey]

It’s going to end up being the CGI version from the last series. The original model, as we all know, was blown up for the episode ‘Demons & Angels’ in series V. Unless some amazing skill is in use down at the models department for the new shows, I doubt very much that we’ll get a fully re-built, restored version of the REAL Red Dwarf.

In a shallow way, that in itself will be a blight on these new episodes. Having the original ship would go a long way to sealing the deal for fans like me who want these specials to be better than the series which preceeded them. But I guess we’ll have to grit our teeth and put up with it.

[locusceruleus]

Wet.

[Kris ‘Drivaaar’ Carter]

I reckon it’ll just be either stock CGI from VIII, or just maybe (just maybe) stock model shots from earlier shows.

[peas_and_corn]

I think they’ll ditch the ‘pencil’ design and go for a more modern, ‘pen’ design.

[Dave]

Red.

[Somebody]

It?s going to end up being the CGI version from the last series. The original model, as we all know, was blown up for the episode ?Demons & Angels? in series V.

Uh, the original model was broken before V. The model they blew up in V was smaller and a lighter shade of red – if you compare the shots of the V model with the original model, the differences are pretty obvious.

[Carlito]

I really don’t understand why they can’t just use stock footage of the original Dwarf. It’s not as if anything significant ever happens with the Dwarf ship. It doesn’t crash, it doesn’t even really move, just drifts along.

The only time they would ever require brand new shots was if they wanted to show something in the background (such as Earth looming on the horizon, new ships other than Starbug entering the docking hatch etc.) all of which could probably be achieved using CGI mixed with original shots of the Dwarf… I really don’t understand why they felt the need to redesign the ship based on the model having been destroyed. Nor why the new CGI design couldn’t have just, y’know, been a CGI version of how the ship looked all along.

[Jonsmad]

Dont they have a new visual fx person on the show though, that did farscape?

We Will get a new CGI created version for 2009 based on that surely.

[ChrisM]

>I really don?t understand why they felt the need to redesign the ship based on the model having been destroyed.

Doug Naylor did explain on one of the Bodysnatcher documentaries. Basically, he felt that the pencil look was more realistic to how such a craft would be built. I.e. you add a bit section by section rather than going for one big block.

Whether that’s a good reason or not is arguable. I’m not really a fan of the new look myself though (although the new model did look good in that zoomover footage. The real model footage I mean not the CGI.) It just looks way TOO long to me. I quite liked the intermediate designs though.

It was never a big deal for me though. I agree it didn’t really need to be changed though, but I understand Mr Naylor’s reasoning behind it.

[Wilbur]

Didn’t Ellard strongly ‘hint’ that the pencil shaped ship made for the movie still exists? I can’t see them going to the effort of either a new model or CGI ships, especially as it seems as if there will be a lot of CGI work already going into the set background.

[si]

There was a lovely stock model shot used during series VII (it’s been a while – it may have been Ouroboros). I don’t see why thay couldn’t do that.

[Pete Part Three]

Further proof that it would be easier to ignore 1 series of continuity than 7 (or 4 if you included Remastered).

[Danny Stephenson]

the pencil shaped ship made for the movie still exists?

Apparently it’s still in storage ready to be used, but the lack of a motion capture camera big enough to film it proved troublesome. To be honest, I wouldn’t have a problem with the CGI footage or the stock model shots being re-used. I’d rather have the money making the rest of the specials looking swish. But also it seems that the sets and the costumes designs are harking back to Red Dwarf’s better days, so I’d rather the model shots (if used at all) were stock.

[Richey]

I’ve never seen the ultra-long pencil ship made for the movie.

[si]

I’d like the traditional sweep and ‘Baaaah-bada-baaaah…badabada-baaaah!’ to start the show.

[Danny Stephenson]

I?ve never seen the ultra-long pencil ship made for the movie.

I believe they were shown on the Re-Dwarf Documentary. If you have the ‘Bodysnatcher Collection’.

[Pete Part Three]

>I?ve never seen the ultra-long pencil ship made for the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IagA_R8HNJo

Spin on to 1:10

[Andrew]

> Didn?t Ellard strongly ?hint? that the pencil shaped ship made for the movie still exists?

I think I probably stated it outright…

Yes, the Red Dwarf ‘pencil’ ship model (and it’s a bloody gorgeous model, whatever your opinion on the design) is still very much around – no falling off a shelf for that baby!

[Danny Stephenson]

I think it was the initial idea of everyone seeing the CGI version first, and everyone not being aware of an original ‘pencil’ being made. The flyby of that ship is absolutely stunning and a serious shame that it couldn’t be used, though. Maybe we’ve got to the point where the background could be put in now?

[Mr Flibble]

I think they’ll be using this in Back to Earth.

[Phil]

Majestic, isn’t it?

[si]

Lovely.

[hummingbird]

I like it.
I see it’s being attacked by a fleet of rogue gelf ring-binders, intent on oodles of crafty fun.

[si]

> What’ll the ship be like?

I vote red.

[Danny Stephenson]

I vote red.

http://www.ganymede.tv/forum/2009/03/whatll-the-ship-be-like#comment-145705

Simpsons did it.

[si]

Blame our Grace. I’m just typing what she says.

[Richey]

It’ll be like like this:

[Seb Patrick]

Nah it won’t.

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