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During the current break in production between Red Dwarf XI and XII, now seems the perfect time to talk about something very specific to the Dave era of Red Dwarf. Oddly enough, it’s something we haven’t really discussed in any great depth here on Ganymede & Titan, although we did touch on it briefly in our commentary on Gunmen.

Firstly, for some context, let’s go back to how the BBC-era shows are presented on Dave. And for all my whinging about Red Dwarf repeats, there is one particular joy I have in watching Red Dwarf on a commercial channel – one which you might think of as merely a pain in the ass. And that is: the commercials themselves. Or, more specifically, the placing of those commercial breaks.

In Polymorph, the break is placed directly after the creature’s first actual attack. In Gunmen of the Apocalypse, it’s after the simulant takes out our four heroes: “I have no alternative.”. But my favourite example is from Queeg: on Queeg’s line “From now on, Red Dwarf is run by Queeg 500” – bang, off we go, into the break. It simply works superbly. I feel bad for saying it – this is a moment constructed years after the fact, with no input from the original production at all – but it’s such a delightful moment that Queeg is almost a better viewing experience on Dave than it is watching the episode without a commercial break.

At this point, I could get into a complicated discussion about act structures. But we don’t really need to. (I’ll save my analysis of the structure of The Sweeney for another time.) The only thing you really need to take away from this is: the placing of an ad break matters. They can’t just be placed willy-nilly at random places. When you choose to go to an ad break gives gravity to the previous scene, even just the previous line: it’s a great big fat punctuation point in the episode. And they can work absolutely brilliantly as cliffhangers.

All of which makes Dwarf‘s transition to Dave rather interesting. For the first time, ad breaks are expected, and can be planned for. How will Dwarf use them to its best advantage? Now, a mid-episode cliffhanger can be built into the show from scratch. An extra opportunity for the production to grab the audience, and refuse to let them go. And Red Dwarf, with a more action-adventure bent than most sitcoms, seems ideally suited to take full advantage. Another little weapon in the production’s arsenal.

Of course, the first episodes of Red Dwarf which were planned from the beginning to have ad breaks was Back to Earth – but I’m going to be kind, and entirely ignore those three episodes. Let’s not forget that BTE was originally supposed to be two parts, and extended to three very late in production. Under those circumstances, it would have been difficult to place the breaks at their most effective points anyway. Whether those ad break placings work well in the transmitted episodes I will leave as an exercise for the reader.

Red Dwarf X is a different matter. Six standalone episodes. The chance is there to place the breaks for their absolute maximum effectiveness – to keep the viewer hooked, and waiting for the next part. If UKTV can conjour up great ad break placings out of thin air for their repeats of the BBC shows, what wonders could the show do when such breaks are baked into the programme?

Sadly, the DVD chops these ad breaks out, to create continuous half-hour episodes. (More on this later.) Which means if you’re watching the episodes on DVD, where the ad breaks were placed is now completely invisible. For the record, then, from the original broadcasts, here are where those ad breaks were placed. And, because I can’t resist sticking my stupid opinions in where they are quite literally unwanted, I’ve also included how well I think the placings work as cliffhangers.


Trojan Rimmer with spinning beachball of doom eyes

WHERE: (13:33 / 29:48) Just after Rimmer’s line “Who am I kidding, I’m never gonna pass this exam. It’s so unfair!”, as he has a Negadrive blow back… sorry, overload of resentment.

DOES IT WORK?: Not a brilliant start, really. I’m probably biased in this regard, as I really dislike the beachball-of-doom stuff in Trojan – so this ad break seems to give the gag a gravity it doesn’t deserve.

Fathers and Suns Lister disappointed in himself

WHERE: (14:11 / 29:56) Right at the end of the double Lister scene, with Lister storming out yelling “I hate you! Bastard!”, whilst his father looks on sadly.

DOES IT WORK?: To be fair, ending a part with one of the best scenes of the series is probably a good way to get viewers to come back for the second part. But it doesn’t really work for me as a cliffhanger. Not that I have any other suggestions when it comes to the episode in its current form – it’s tempting to suggest placing it once Lister discovered he wasn’t a registered member of crew and started being menaced in the corridors, but this would be far too late in the episode.

Lemons KRYTEN IS CONCERNED ABOUT JESUS

WHERE: (15:01 / 29:40) After Jesus’s line “I fear thou are impatient for thine food. Please… join me.”

DOES IT WORK?: Rubbish. Right in the middle of a scene, destroying any momentum the episode was gaining up to that point. Pretty much any other point in the episode would have been a better placing. It’s tempting to say when the crew make it back to the ship, but again, that’s quite late on in the episode. Or perhaps during the chase scene with the Romans?

Entangled Blue Midget flying to planet

WHERE: (14:49 / 29:35) Lister pondering “Maybe that’s our answer”, and Blue Midget flying down to the BEGG planet.

DOES IT WORK?: The first placing that really works for me: Lister’s question sets up a bit of intrigue, and flying to the BEGG planet seems a natural cut-off point. It’s not really very exciting, but maybe that’s my general dislike of Entangled bleeding through.

Dear Dave Cat looking pleased with himself

WHERE: (14:27 / 29:12) Right at the very end of the charades scene.

DOES IT WORK?: No. But then, nor does Dear Dave as a whole, so expecting the ad break to work in this shambles of an episode would be expecting too much. What the episode’s really crying out for is for the ad break to come in just after Lister’s discovered he might be a father, but yet again, that’s probably too late in the episode’s current form.

The Beginning Three simulant

WHERE: (14:37 / 29:52) As the crew escape in Blue Midget, the three Annihilators chase them.

DOES IT WORK?: By far the strongest of the series – cut away just as the Dwarfers are running for their lives. It’s instructive to compare this episode with the cliffhangers for most of the rest of the series. This is how you do it.


As you can see, I’m not especially impressed with the ad break placing in much of Red Dwarf X. In fact, it’s just weird that you can actually get a better cliffhanger from Queeg – which was never designed to allow for an ad break – than a series which was commissioned by a commercial channel, and was always going to include commercials which literally help pay for the show to be made.

To be honest, it’s hard to shake off the feeling that the production didn’t really care about the ad breaks, and would rather that they weren’t there. That feeling is enforced by the static, silent, almost apologetic Red Dwarf X slide which starts and ends each break. There is precisely zero ceremony involved. Even with the episodes which have the break placed nicely, the presentation of the break itself is weak. The show just… falls off air.

But perhaps the most telling aspect is the DVDs, which as I said earlier, have the ad breaks removed entirely. It’s difficult not to suspect that this is the form which is considered the canonical one. You only have to look at Lemons, where the central section where they meet Jesus is now presented as one continuous scene. It feels like this is the real version the production was going for.

Except… here’s the curious thing. DVDs are in decline. (Much to my chagrin – but we’ll pick that thread up in another article.) Many people are watching Red Dwarf on-demand – including through UKTV Play, UKTV’s own on-demand service. Which – surprise! – includes adverts. (Placed exactly where they were in the transmitted episodes.) Services like these are the choice of many, rather than watching the episodes on DVD. And let’s not forget that DVDs or no, Red Dwarf X was always going to have a healthy repeat run on Dave.

In other words: designing these episodes for continuous viewing on DVD is rather short-sighted. These episodes need to be at their best everywhere.

Right now, we’re bang in the middle of production of Red Dwarf XI and XII. And yes, sensible ad break placing isn’t exactly top of the list of things I most want from the show at this point. But that’s not to say that thinking a bit harder about them wouldn’t make the show a better viewing experience. Because yes, anything which makes the programme flow better, and which gets viewers watching after the ad break, is a good thing.

But it’s hard to shake the idea that thinking harder about the ad breaks might just add that little bit of extra structure to proceedings, which Red Dwarf X sometimes lacked. Even amongst people who really enjoyed the series, a common complaint was that the episodes took their sweet time to get going. Time and time again, it feels like the ad break would have been better placed later on in the episode. If the placing of the ad breaks had been considered more carefully, maybe some of the slower openings to the episodes would have been trimmed slightly.

Because an exciting moment to build to isn’t pandering to marketing people, or even pandering to the audience. It can actually just help make better telly.

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  1. Not having experienced BTE or RDX with the ads, I didn’t know what the placement was at all (though it’s pretty easy to infer from the pauses in BTE). I do remember UK Gold being quite clever with the ad break placements back in the day, though.

    I’d also like to say, I genuinely love seeing articles like this. So many people dismiss this sort of thing is unimportant guff, but it’s all a part of the viewing experience when you’re watching at broadcast. BBC America regularly butchers episodes of Doctor Who with awkward ad placement (good grief, “The Husbands of River Song” was a messy broadcast) but it’s not something I ever see anybody talking about. It’s stuff like this that I love about your writing, John. Please never, ever stop.

  2. I agree, Ben. John gets the interested juices flowing. If John had been a lecturer in my Media Production degree course at Sunderland University, I probably wouldn’t have hated doing it at the time and really regret having done it. (In the very first class I attended, the class was asked the difference between a narrative and a plot. So I gave the answer and was told ‘Good guess’.
    The fucking cunting fucking cunt.
    WHY DIDN’T I QUIT? My biggest regret.

    Anyway. Lovely article.
    I’d be interested to hear of a good example for an advert ident thingybob. The silent, static thing works for me. With some eerie or ominous music added.

  3. You know you’ve been reading this site for a while, when you can tell which of the team wrote the article from the abridged glimpse on the front page. Classic John.

    I think I’d disagree with the Dear Dave assessment. That’s easily the best scene in that shit-stain of an episode, so it might actually convince me to come back after commercials.

    >I’d be interested to hear of a good example for an advert ident thingybob.
    I think I’d settle for the last couple of seconds of the opening credits again, with the sting on the theme tune and the logo. Anything is better than simply cutting the scene and crashing straight into a sponsor message.

  4. With the repeats of S1-8, Dave used a flyby of Red Dwarf with the last few notes of the theme tune to go to and back from a break. Would have been better for X if they did that as well, instead of the aforementioned black screen with logo and no music that just looked so, well, shit. Almost made it look like there was a fault with the playback machine causing it to happen.

  5. Great article – ad breaks are a form of punctuation that can be very important for a show, especially for a comedy.

    I always found it interesting that the Father Ted DVDs left the break intact as a single ‘sting’ placed in the middle of the episode (in the same place as the ad break) to maintain that punctuation even without the ads.

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    Cheers everyone. Glad a few people like this complete and utter nonsense.

    I was also thinking of an end of part bumper with the last few notes of the theme tune – “DER DER DER DER DER DER!” – but I think pretty much anything would work better than what we had…

  7. ad breaks are a form of punctuation that can be very important for a show, especially for a comedy.

    Absolutely. Vic Reeves Big Night Out’s ad breaks were butchered on DVD. They were great on the VHS releases, but, my God. They cut about three minutes out, excising entire sequences.

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    I think Father Ted have had unfortunate cuts as a result of bumpers not being a thing. The ‘hitler through the window’ being cut much shorter being one example.

  9. Cheers everyone. Glad a few people like this complete and utter nonsense.

    Just thought I’d add to the list of people. Forgive me if it’s too early in the morning for this Star Trek crap, but articles and discussions like this (and many others on G&T) are what make me love Red Dwarf fandom. Sorry I don’t often comment on these and the latest Dwarfcasts. I often can’t think of anything of interest or value to say but I do absolutely love reading and listening to every one of them.

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