Home › Forums › Ganymede & Titan Forum › WALL-E Search for: This topic has 37 replies, 15 voices, and was last updated 17 years, 8 months ago by Ben Paddon. Scroll to bottom Creator Topic July 30, 2008 at 9:47 am #2456 BazParticipant Excellent movie. The first half hour, with no speech in it is just jaw droppingly beautiful. Amazing how they pack so much pathos and emotion into a small CG robot. Could almost be a RD universe story, Earth abandoned as a trash planet. Robot left behind, still carrying out it’s tasks. And Captian Hollister is surely showing the first sign of turning into Captain McCrea. Creator Topic Viewing 37 replies - 1 through 37 (of 37 total) Author Replies July 30, 2008 at 3:39 pm #82901 pfmParticipant Yeah this was so brilliant. On first viewing I thought the second half messed up the film, I wished there was NO dialogue, no humans at all. But then loads of people wouldn’t really have got the film’s message (a lot still won’t…). The Axion, the ship carrying the entire human race (or what’s left of it…interesting how everyone’s American…) is such an astoundingly great idea visualized spectacularly. This is in many ways Pixar’s ultimate masterpiece. Indeed so there are Dwarf connections. I’d like to think Doug has watched this with a smile on his face. July 30, 2008 at 9:32 pm #82918 Danny StephensonKeymaster I can’t wait to see this tomorrow. July 30, 2008 at 9:34 pm #82919 PhilParticipant Yeah, it was really good. It was a little jarring having Fred Willard in the movie as the only non-CG element of the whole film, but I love the man enough that my delight far outweighed my confusion. July 30, 2008 at 10:14 pm #82920 John HoareParticipant My favourite Pixar film ever. Although I say that about *every* new Pixar film I see. Amazing stuff, though, in every possible way. July 31, 2008 at 12:37 am #82921 pfmParticipant At first I didn’t get the whole using real humans thing, but it’s actually pretty blatant. The humans onscreen are what the ‘real’ people think they look like, or it’s what they want to look like. July 31, 2008 at 8:48 am #82928 Tanya JonesParticipant The short was terrific as well… July 31, 2008 at 8:55 am #82929 BazParticipant It was gratuitously violent. So yes, it was a hoot. The DVD will have a short involving BURN-E, the welding robot that gets locked out after EVE and WALL-E fly back to the Axiom. Incidentally, didn’t get the whole A113 thing until I looked it up- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A113 July 31, 2008 at 9:35 am #82930 AndrewParticipant > BURN-E Is that the real character name? Aside from him not being Earth-class (Axiom Load Lifters are stamped ‘Wall-A’), I’m curious as to how the acronym’s going to work there… July 31, 2008 at 1:19 pm #82933 BazParticipant It is indeed- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BURN-E Maybe the “E” doesn’t stand for “Earth” in his case. I can imagine WALL-E being one of the skutter’s favourite films. I have one of the small poseable WALL-E toys currently sitting on top of my monitor. Very cute it looks too. July 31, 2008 at 5:04 pm #82934 Danny StephensonKeymaster Seen it, loved it. Can’t wait for the DVD! “Presto” short was really inventive and was a joy to watch. Main feature was visually stunning and every shot had me hooked. I liked the nods to “2001: A Space Odyssey”. I did notice that because there was a distinct lack of true human vocals, the sound design was kicked up a fair notch, and I was loving it! Awesome film. Just awesome. August 3, 2008 at 5:49 pm #82984 mickParticipant Got too bloody preachy about the environment, FUCK OFF! August 3, 2008 at 6:18 pm #82986 Tarka DalParticipant I was actual surprised as I thought it was less-preachy then it was going to be. Then again maybe it was just closer to my way of thinking about things so I noticed it less. August 3, 2008 at 7:49 pm #82988 Tanya JonesParticipant I didn’t think it was particularly preachy, rather, it was trying to say that modern humans are sometimes so cossetted by society that they don’t realise how much potential they have to reverse the damage their lifestyle has done. August 5, 2008 at 5:57 am #83025 Mr FlibbleParticipant Really good, loved it, wasn’t sure I would. I didn’t think it was very preachy either, just funny. August 5, 2008 at 7:55 am #83028 peas_and_cornParticipant heh heh… WILL-E. August 5, 2008 at 3:55 pm #83034 Ben PaddonParticipant “Hello, you are reading Ganymede & Titan.” August 9, 2008 at 9:51 am #83063 JonsmadParticipant Yeah I agree. I thought it was satirical, but optimistic, and it would depend on the age or opinions of the viewer whether they saw an enivormental message or a wacky imagained robot film. I saw echo’s of ET, Short Circuit and R2D2 in it. Really enjoyed it. Dam what was the short Tanya? I arrived late at the Cinema got there just as the opening titles started, on the main feature and didnt think I had missed anything. Was the captain voiced by that guy out of Crub your enthusiasm, sounded like him, (I watched Steve Coogan pop up in that show recently). It was kind of like the holly senility angle only this time it was the humans forgetting all there knowledge and talents. August 9, 2008 at 4:07 pm #83066 Seb PatrickKeymaster Ohhh, man, you missed “Presto”? You need to go and see it again! It’s by far Pixar’s best ever short! Pure Looney Tunes stuff… August 9, 2008 at 7:20 pm #83070 JonsmadParticipant We are talking Knick knack. If so I hope Presto is on the DVD and I might get it. August 9, 2008 at 8:17 pm #83071 John HoareParticipant For the Birds is still my favourite Pixar short. What that says about me I don’t know, though. August 10, 2008 at 5:40 pm #83076 DaveParticipant >Crub your enthusiasm http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Crub August 10, 2008 at 8:29 pm #83080 Seb PatrickKeymaster Saw it again tonight – paid this time! It actually gets better on repeat viewings. God I love this film. August 10, 2008 at 8:33 pm #83081 AndrewParticipant Then you may find this ‘interesting’: http://chud.com/articles/articles/15900/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WALLE039S-UNLIKELY-LOVE-STORY/Page1.html August 10, 2008 at 9:04 pm #83084 PhilParticipant His argument is that Wall-E isn’t doing so hot financially because its love story isn’t convincing? To make that argument you’d have to accept as fact that movies with “convincing” love stories are more profitable than movies without. Which I really doubt is the case. August 10, 2008 at 9:40 pm #83086 JonsmadParticipant Did I just really read the words “date rape” in a review of a kids robot movie? I’m not letting this guy anywhere near Bambi. August 11, 2008 at 12:34 am #83089 AndrewParticipant > Which I really doubt is the case. Well quite. The fact that it’s only ‘very profitable’ means only exactly that. But – I did leave the second screening I went to with some sense of what he’s talking about. That, at least, Eve’s affection was won relatively easily compared to her previous behavior (though that article handily skips the key discovery – Eve seeing the video playback of WALL-E protecting her while she was shut down), and that the ‘girlfriend in a coma’ sequence risked sitting uncomfortably given that, as an audience, we’re meant to identify with the lead character. The counter-argument, of course, is THEY’RE FUCKING ROBOTS. And a perfectly valid one it is, too. August 11, 2008 at 1:49 am #83090 pfmParticipant I simply cannot believe that anyone is ‘uncomfortable’ with that part of WALL-E! It’s mildly interesting that some people can’t seem to get stuff like rape out of their minds even when going to watch a Pixar film. Why even go and see a film when your attitude is one of ‘OK, I’m sitting here ready and waiting to be offending by something, ANYTHING, so I can have a good old whine about it when I get home.’ It hasn’t made as much money because most people still think it’s just about a robot shovelling trash. And if you try and describe to someone what it’s really about they’re STILL not bothered because it sounds too ‘deep’ or not interesting or funny enough. August 11, 2008 at 1:56 am #83091 AndrewParticipant You did read what he wrote, though, right? He gave the film a glowing review originally. He’s not suggesting a boycott or anything – it’s just an interpretive reading. Which is kinda what art is for. August 11, 2008 at 6:13 am #83092 Seb PatrickKeymaster >though that article handily skips the key discovery – Eve seeing the video playback of WALL-E protecting her while she was shut down … and the fact that he risks everything in order to bring her the plant and enable her to fulfil her directive… August 11, 2008 at 9:31 am #83093 AndrewParticipant > ? and the fact that he risks everything in order to bring her the plant and enable her to fulfil her directive? I think that would just fit with the general thesis anyway – that he’d do anything for her, to the point of reckless obsession, despite minimal encouragement. August 11, 2008 at 11:08 am #83094 PhilParticipant >He?s not suggesting a boycott or anything – it?s just an interpretive reading. Sure. And I’m fine with somebody exploring their theory that the love story isn’t entirely convincing, or might actually be kind of creepy. (To be honest I agree with a lot of it.) But I don’t know why he bothers to draw a financial correlation at all. He opens by saying, “Hey, ever wonder why Wall-E isn’t doing better in theaters? I’ll tell you. It’s because the love story isn’t convincing.” Which is a horrible way to open your essay, because…who would actually accept the premise that convincing love story = stronger financial gain? It would take a lot of research to convince me of something like that, as I can’t say it suits my experience at all. (Let alone the idea of “convincing” being entirely subjective and “profit” being wholly objective…how on earth could you possibly link the two?) Not that I’m saying much more in this post than I am in my previous, but I want to stress–lest I be misunderstood–that I appreciate somebody taking the time to get an unconventional opinion across. What I don’t understand is why he’s trying to link it to box office performance. August 11, 2008 at 11:12 am #83095 AndrewParticipant I totally, totally agree. Sorry, my ‘boycott’ point was responding to PM’s suggestion that the guy was ‘waiting to be offended’. Interesting follow-up: http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/8806/tcid/1 August 11, 2008 at 11:58 am #83096 PhilParticipant Nope, no need for apologies. I understood it wasn’t directed at me. I just wanted to be more clear with what I had said earlier, as I realized it wasn’t easily distinguishable. August 13, 2008 at 9:19 pm #83128 DaveParticipant >I?m not letting this guy anywhere near Bambi Is Bambi you’re 12 year old sister? August 13, 2008 at 9:59 pm #83130 Danny StephensonKeymaster Sorry to disturb the thread, like I always do, I was watching Futurama and came across one of “The Scary Door” skits and i was watching it with the guy where his eyes come out and his hands come off, and then I paused the screen, knowing for a fact that I’d seen it before it took me 4 hours to realise it was Dave’s frigging avatar! Back to Wall-E… August 19, 2008 at 5:13 pm #83214 DaveParticipant “Hey, look at that weird mirror” I’m just glad no one picked up on my bad grammar. I, of course, meant to say: “Is Bambi you are 12 year old sister?” August 20, 2008 at 10:00 pm #83222 Ben PaddonParticipant My co-workers and I have taken to referring to “Presto” as “Portal: The Movie”. Author Replies Viewing 37 replies - 1 through 37 (of 37 total) Scroll to top • Scroll to Recent Forum Posts You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Log In Username: Password: Keep me signed in Log In