Viewing Figures Including Records

> Red Dwarf shits on Torchwood ratings when it was on a digital channel.

That make you hard, does it?

I’m not wrong in thinking that before BTE Torchwood had the highest non-sporting event ratings on a digital channel or am I getting mixed up?

… because it’s utter gash?

Including the people who recorded it later I think it was alot more, about 2.5 or 2.6, I mean when the two million article was released they still wern’t the final figures were they.

It’s funnier than Back to Earth.

The truth hurts.

>Millions enjoyed it.

Are you talking about “Not Going Out”?

Besides, the correct comeback is supposed to be “Back to Earth wasn’t meant to make you laugh. Red Dwarf is a comedy drama now”. In which case, saying that a gag-heavy (if slightly wearisome) sitcom like “Not Going Out” is funnier than it, shouldn’t annoy anyone.

But I guess that’s the way fandom works. Say something unpopular is shit, no one cares. Say something popular is shit, everyone get annoyed.

>But your negative points are meant to be right?

Of course my “negative points” are right. I’m hardly going to say they’re wrong, am I? It’s called an opinion. It really shouldn’t rankle so much. Would you get offended if I said:

“I heartily enjoyed Red Dwarf: Back to Earth. I found the humour in no way forced or tired and I really liked the way the show dominated minutes of its running time to celebrating Blade Runner which I found in no way overboard or potentially alienating. I also found it incredibly clever the way they concluded the story with a “homage” to an earlier episode. It was in no way a rip-off and Doug Naylor obviously hasn’t run out of ideas”

Are my “positive points” right?

Brilliant. The ever boring “If you don’t like it, don’t watch it” reply. That never gets old. I’d have thought someone who works for the fanclub would at least have a passing understanding of the nature of fandom.

Thing is, I didn’t stop watching 15 years ago. Far from it. I watched Thanks for the Memory last night. Laughed like a drain. Read the first two novels after BTE aired. Loved them just as much as ever.

>I?m sure you feel justified leaving derogatory comments about BTE every chance you get.

Let’s rewind. Ben said he bought two DVDs; Back to Earth and Not Going Out. Seb said that Not Going Out “was utter gash”. I replied that it was funnier than the other thing Ben bought.

>But it won?t make a difference.

Huh? You mean people making remarks on an internet forum results in no consequences whatsoever? Nooo! My outlook on life is completely shaken.

>The funny thing is, before BTE even aired, I knew the people who wouldn?t like it, you didn?t disappoint.

You mean the people who appreciated Red Dwarf when it was funny and critically acclaimed? Yeah, I can’t say I was totally shocked, either.

The really funny thing is that before BTE even aired, I had a good idea that there would be people who would like it simply BECAUSE IT’S RED DWARF SO IT MUST BE GOOD. You didn?t disappoint either.

Although I’m puzzled as to why you’re still watching the programme since you probably still hold the opinion that it’s aimed for people aged 15 and under.

Series VIII isn’t shit, don’t be tedious.

This thread is making me understand just how tedious my life is. I really should be devouring series sets of Not Going Out, Gimme Gimme Gimme and The Green Green Grass and comparing them with both BtE and VIII, taking extensive notes along the way. The fact that I’m not doing that right this second suggests my material existence is a huge fucking wasteful joke – a sick one at that.

There’s a pack of honey & lemon Strepsils (36 lozenges) sitting on my shelf in front of me and I now have the urge to ram let’s say, for argument’s sake, 11 (because odd numbers are funny and even numbers aren’t, depending on which sitcom commentary you listen to) of them into the slot of my Darth Maul electronic moneybox, setting all three of the fucking things off (Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon) in the process and probably waking my other half up resulting in a bollocking because she’ll see the redtube tab I forgot to close in this mother fucking stupour brought on by attempting to read Pete’s posts. Just listen to the new Torchwood audio or read a book or something.

>Just listen to the new Torchwood audio or read a book or something.

Or you could watch BTE! I am again. I just realised another thing in the mini bunk room scene, the carpet is flashing to represent the flashing table computer thing in the new BTE bunk room, I like that I am still noticing things.

>And I like that you like that you are still noticing things.

And I like that you like that I like that I am still noticing things.

>I also found it incredibly clever the way they concluded the story with a ?homage? to an earlier episode. It was in no way a rip-off and Doug Naylor obviously hasn?t run out of ideas?

“It could have been a number of things to explain away and restore the fourth wall, I felt because it was kind of a 21st anniversary show there was a sort of coolness in sort of in, in using one of our most loved shows and revisiting it. I didn’t think people would go “Oh you just can’t think of any ideas” erm *laughs* just proves that there’s there’s [tails off to something else]”
Doug Naylor – BTE Commentary.

> Stop being facetious, Monkey.

Only if you stop being long-winded and full of poo.