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    Ben Paddon
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    Am I the only one who thinks that this looks absolutely abominable? What is Robert Zemeckis doing making trash like this? Didn’t he learn his lesson with The Polar Express?

    As a fan of Dickens’ work, it does annoy me slightly that the most faithful motion picture adaptation of the novel has so far been A Muppets Christmas Carol.

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  • #104343
    Pete Part Three
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    Probably not the most faithful, but certainly the best by a country mile.

    Zemeckis is slowy turning into Lucas. Apparently showcasing new film-making techniques is slightly more important than making good films.

    #104346

    But it’s Dickens – but with cool inyaface rollercoastery CGI goodness!

    Yeah, it looks like complete guff. I can’t believe it’s from the same guy who gave us the sublime BTTF trilogy.

    It’s quite sad really.

    #104348
    Dessie
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    The CGI looks shite and Jim Carrey playing Ebanezer is a bad casting choice. I’m going to hate this film.

    #104347
    Carlito
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    > As a fan of Dickens? work, it does annoy me slightly that the most faithful motion picture adaptation of the novel has so far been A Muppets Christmas Carol.

    Maybe not faithful, but Scrooged has to be my favourite adaptation.

    #104353
    Nick R
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    I don’t think the film will be awful, but the characters’ facial animation is definitely deeeeeep into the uncanny valley – probably more so than anything else I’ve seen. I like the atmosphere of the environments, though.

    It’s also been announced that Zemeckis will be remaking Yellow Submarine(!) using 3D performance capture. There are many films for which a remake would be pointless, and that’s one of them. Maybe if he does it in the style of the Beatles: Rock Band intro, it could work… but almost certainly not. At least it’ll give them an excuse to get the original’s DVD back in print…

    #104354
    ChrisM
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    >Am I the only one who thinks that this looks absolutely abominable?

    I’m a bit cynical aboutyet another Scrooge addaption, and I can’t say if it will be good having not seen it yet, but it definitely doesn’t look abominable. It looks amazing.

    >The CGI looks shite

    If by that you mean it doesn’t look real, then you’re right. Except it’s not supposed to look real. It’s a 3-D animation, essentially a 3-D cartoon* and as that it looks great. Just look at the texture the, detail the amount of work that’s gone into it.

    *although they tend not to be referred to as that nowadays.

    #104355
    si
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    I do like the bit at the end where he blows the snowflake off his nose.

    #104356
    hummingbird
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    >Am I the only one who thinks that this looks absolutely abominable?
    >Yeah, it looks like complete guff
    >The CGI looks shite

    All of this.
    Plus : Wilfred Bramble as Scrooge …?

    #104358

    The cast will be the best thing about this, ESPECIALLY Jim Carrey and Gary Oldman. From what we’ve seen so far it looks like the animation style is just going to distract from what could well be a great adaptation underneath.

    One thing I do like is how they’re not trying to go too photo-realistic. As they’ve been talking about in the brilliant South Bank Disney/Pixar special that has just finished, it’s an animated film, a cartoon, there’s no need to try and fool the audience into thinking it’s not. That is the way animated features should stay.

    #104562
    Jo
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    >Didn?t he learn his lesson with The Polar Express?

    *shrugs* I like The Polar Express, it’s a lovely family Xmas film.

    #104564
    Seb Patrick
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    >it does annoy me slightly that the most faithful motion picture adaptation of the novel has so far been A Muppets Christmas Carol.

    *splutters*

    Alastair Sim?

    #104566
    Trena
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    Are you all on glue?

    #104567
    Pete Part Three
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    “Scrooge” actually deviates quite a bit from the original story. Adds quite a few bits as well.

    The most faithful adaptation I’ve seen is the Patrick Stewart (1999) one. But faithful doesn’t equal good.

    #104568
    Trena
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    Oh behave, the Patrick Stewart adaptation was great.

    I made my girlfriend depressed when I told her Tiny Tim died regardless.

    #104569
    Dave
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    He died without regard?

    #104570
    Pete Part Three
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    >Oh behave, the Patrick Stewart adaptation was great.

    I found it flat and uninteresting. That said, it has to be one of the most overfilmed stories in existence. Aside from the spin-offs (Blackadder’s Christmas Carol, Mickey’s Christmas Carol, Scrooged, Ghosts of Girlfriends Past (!) etc) there tends to be a straight adaptation almost every other year.

    I like how the story and every adaptation with a narrator ends with the claim that “Tiny Tim did NOT die”.

    As a consequence, Timothy Cratchett is still alive to this day.

    #104571
    Trena
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    I suspected that wasn’t correct.

    #104572
    Dave
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    How close to the original is Bobby’s Winslet cartoon version?

    #104574
    Seb Patrick
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    I must have missed the bit in the book where Bob Cratchit was a talking frog, is all.

    #104587
    Pete Part Three
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    If that was in reply to me, Seb, then I wasn’t actually disagreeing with you. I also questioned Ben’s claim that The Muppet Christmas Carol was the “most faithful”. That said, I would claim that it is slightly more faithful than Scrooge, in that it adds relatively little to the BASIC story.

    If your introduction to A Christmas Carol was The Muppet Christmas Carol and you were intelligent enough to realise that this is the Muppets spin on the story and comedic elements have been added, you could still take away a pretty good understanding of the plot.

    Whereas if you were to watch Scrooge, you could be under the belief that, because of the lack of talking fruit and singing rats, this is pure Dickens. But that would be a misconception. There’s a bunch of stuff you’d take away from that adaptation that have no foundation in Dickens’s original story.

    Incidentally, I can only think of one time where it’s actually addressed that Bob is a frog, and that’s a throwaway comment that probably wasn’t even scripted.

    #104588
    Trena
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    Hold on, hold on…

    Are you implying there were no talking frogs in the original novella?

    #104590
    Pete Part Three
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    No, there is mouse with antlers though.

    Or that might be something else.

    #104657

    It always surprises me how faithful the Muppets version is. It’s great that they didn’t feel the need to fuck up the story just because it was a Muppet movie. I defy anyone not to love it. It’s loads more enjoyable than Patrick Stewart’s version. I prefer Caine as Scrooge for a start (and believe it is one of his greatest roles).

    There is NO definitive version. Except the book, which I have read several times, always just before Christmas.

    #104750
    Jonsmad
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    Scrooged is my favourite too, closely followed by Blackadder. I’ve never read the book. I’ll have to give it a whirl this christmas.

    #104951

    Has anyone seen the version with Tom Waits as Marley? …Maybe I dreamt that one.

    But yeah, my favourite is the George C Scott one.

    #105971
    Pete Part Three
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    #106000
    Tarka Dal
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    Personally I’m waiting for him to adapt Back to the Future.

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