Home › Forums › Ganymede & Titan Forum › A Christmas Carrey Search for: This topic has 27 replies, 17 voices, and was last updated 16 years, 6 months ago by Tarka Dal. Scroll to bottom Creator Topic October 11, 2009 at 6:23 am #5068 Ben PaddonParticipant Am I the only one who thinks that this looks absolutely abominable? What is Robert Zemeckis doing making trash like this? Didn’t he learn his lesson with The Polar Express? As a fan of Dickens’ work, it does annoy me slightly that the most faithful motion picture adaptation of the novel has so far been A Muppets Christmas Carol. Creator Topic Viewing 27 replies - 1 through 27 (of 27 total) Author Replies October 11, 2009 at 8:43 am #104343 Pete Part ThreeParticipant Probably not the most faithful, but certainly the best by a country mile. Zemeckis is slowy turning into Lucas. Apparently showcasing new film-making techniques is slightly more important than making good films. October 11, 2009 at 10:20 am #104346 Kris ‘Drivaaar’ CarterParticipant But it’s Dickens – but with cool inyaface rollercoastery CGI goodness! Yeah, it looks like complete guff. I can’t believe it’s from the same guy who gave us the sublime BTTF trilogy. It’s quite sad really. October 11, 2009 at 11:49 am #104348 DessieParticipant The CGI looks shite and Jim Carrey playing Ebanezer is a bad casting choice. I’m going to hate this film. October 11, 2009 at 2:41 pm #104347 CarlitoParticipant > As a fan of Dickens? work, it does annoy me slightly that the most faithful motion picture adaptation of the novel has so far been A Muppets Christmas Carol. Maybe not faithful, but Scrooged has to be my favourite adaptation. October 11, 2009 at 3:00 pm #104353 Nick RParticipant I don’t think the film will be awful, but the characters’ facial animation is definitely deeeeeep into the uncanny valley – probably more so than anything else I’ve seen. I like the atmosphere of the environments, though. It’s also been announced that Zemeckis will be remaking Yellow Submarine(!) using 3D performance capture. There are many films for which a remake would be pointless, and that’s one of them. Maybe if he does it in the style of the Beatles: Rock Band intro, it could work… but almost certainly not. At least it’ll give them an excuse to get the original’s DVD back in print… October 11, 2009 at 4:51 pm #104354 ChrisMParticipant >Am I the only one who thinks that this looks absolutely abominable? I’m a bit cynical aboutyet another Scrooge addaption, and I can’t say if it will be good having not seen it yet, but it definitely doesn’t look abominable. It looks amazing. >The CGI looks shite If by that you mean it doesn’t look real, then you’re right. Except it’s not supposed to look real. It’s a 3-D animation, essentially a 3-D cartoon* and as that it looks great. Just look at the texture the, detail the amount of work that’s gone into it. *although they tend not to be referred to as that nowadays. October 11, 2009 at 5:46 pm #104355 siParticipant I do like the bit at the end where he blows the snowflake off his nose. October 11, 2009 at 7:10 pm #104356 hummingbirdParticipant >Am I the only one who thinks that this looks absolutely abominable? >Yeah, it looks like complete guff >The CGI looks shite All of this. Plus : Wilfred Bramble as Scrooge …? October 11, 2009 at 10:14 pm #104358 The PerformingMonkeyParticipant The cast will be the best thing about this, ESPECIALLY Jim Carrey and Gary Oldman. From what we’ve seen so far it looks like the animation style is just going to distract from what could well be a great adaptation underneath. One thing I do like is how they’re not trying to go too photo-realistic. As they’ve been talking about in the brilliant South Bank Disney/Pixar special that has just finished, it’s an animated film, a cartoon, there’s no need to try and fool the audience into thinking it’s not. That is the way animated features should stay. October 13, 2009 at 2:53 pm #104562 JoParticipant >Didn?t he learn his lesson with The Polar Express? *shrugs* I like The Polar Express, it’s a lovely family Xmas film. October 13, 2009 at 3:07 pm #104564 Seb PatrickKeymaster >it does annoy me slightly that the most faithful motion picture adaptation of the novel has so far been A Muppets Christmas Carol. *splutters* Alastair Sim? October 13, 2009 at 3:24 pm #104566 TrenaParticipant Are you all on glue? October 13, 2009 at 3:25 pm #104567 Pete Part ThreeParticipant “Scrooge” actually deviates quite a bit from the original story. Adds quite a few bits as well. The most faithful adaptation I’ve seen is the Patrick Stewart (1999) one. But faithful doesn’t equal good. October 13, 2009 at 3:27 pm #104568 TrenaParticipant Oh behave, the Patrick Stewart adaptation was great. I made my girlfriend depressed when I told her Tiny Tim died regardless. October 13, 2009 at 3:30 pm #104569 DaveParticipant He died without regard? October 13, 2009 at 3:32 pm #104570 Pete Part ThreeParticipant >Oh behave, the Patrick Stewart adaptation was great. I found it flat and uninteresting. That said, it has to be one of the most overfilmed stories in existence. Aside from the spin-offs (Blackadder’s Christmas Carol, Mickey’s Christmas Carol, Scrooged, Ghosts of Girlfriends Past (!) etc) there tends to be a straight adaptation almost every other year. I like how the story and every adaptation with a narrator ends with the claim that “Tiny Tim did NOT die”. As a consequence, Timothy Cratchett is still alive to this day. October 13, 2009 at 3:34 pm #104571 TrenaParticipant I suspected that wasn’t correct. October 13, 2009 at 3:35 pm #104572 DaveParticipant How close to the original is Bobby’s Winslet cartoon version? October 13, 2009 at 4:14 pm #104574 Seb PatrickKeymaster I must have missed the bit in the book where Bob Cratchit was a talking frog, is all. October 13, 2009 at 5:22 pm #104587 Pete Part ThreeParticipant If that was in reply to me, Seb, then I wasn’t actually disagreeing with you. I also questioned Ben’s claim that The Muppet Christmas Carol was the “most faithful”. That said, I would claim that it is slightly more faithful than Scrooge, in that it adds relatively little to the BASIC story. If your introduction to A Christmas Carol was The Muppet Christmas Carol and you were intelligent enough to realise that this is the Muppets spin on the story and comedic elements have been added, you could still take away a pretty good understanding of the plot. Whereas if you were to watch Scrooge, you could be under the belief that, because of the lack of talking fruit and singing rats, this is pure Dickens. But that would be a misconception. There’s a bunch of stuff you’d take away from that adaptation that have no foundation in Dickens’s original story. Incidentally, I can only think of one time where it’s actually addressed that Bob is a frog, and that’s a throwaway comment that probably wasn’t even scripted. October 13, 2009 at 5:24 pm #104588 TrenaParticipant Hold on, hold on… Are you implying there were no talking frogs in the original novella? October 13, 2009 at 5:27 pm #104590 Pete Part ThreeParticipant No, there is mouse with antlers though. Or that might be something else. October 14, 2009 at 2:09 am #104657 The PerformingMonkeyParticipant It always surprises me how faithful the Muppets version is. It’s great that they didn’t feel the need to fuck up the story just because it was a Muppet movie. I defy anyone not to love it. It’s loads more enjoyable than Patrick Stewart’s version. I prefer Caine as Scrooge for a start (and believe it is one of his greatest roles). There is NO definitive version. Except the book, which I have read several times, always just before Christmas. October 15, 2009 at 12:44 am #104750 JonsmadParticipant Scrooged is my favourite too, closely followed by Blackadder. I’ve never read the book. I’ll have to give it a whirl this christmas. October 17, 2009 at 8:40 pm #104951 genericnerdyusernameParticipant Has anyone seen the version with Tom Waits as Marley? …Maybe I dreamt that one. But yeah, my favourite is the George C Scott one. November 12, 2009 at 7:27 am #105971 Pete Part ThreeParticipant http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a186476/zemeckis-to-adapt-the-nutcracker.html Christ. Give it a rest, Bob. November 12, 2009 at 6:26 pm #106000 Tarka DalParticipant Personally I’m waiting for him to adapt Back to the Future. 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