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    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    I haven’t seen it yet, but I’ll lay out the spoiler policy for this thread – if it’s been broadcast, talk about it to your heart’s content. If you don’t want spoilering, don’t read this thread. And it’d be nice if people could be polite and not go giving things away elsewhere on the site.

    Go!

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  • #108601
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    And by ‘been broadcast’, we mean in America, rather than on Sky.

    I’ve got myself a nice little torrent burrowing away at home…

    #108602
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > if it?s been broadcast, talk about it to your heart?s content

    Broadcast in America? I think if that’s the case we should stop any chatter about the latest episode until the Wednesday night, just to give everyone a chance get it watched.

    Although, having said that, Sky is only a few days behind so that would non-torrenters are a bit fucked. Quandary.

    #108603
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > I?ve got myself a nice little torrent burrowing away at home?

    So far my quest for a HD version is proving fruitless. God, I miss Mininova.

    #108606
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    You guys aren’t prepared to wait 72 hours? Sheesh.

    That said, Friday night is an awful time for Sky to show Lost. It needs to be on Sunday, after 24. That’s the law.

    #108607
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > You guys aren?t prepared to wait 72 hours? Sheesh.

    No.

    #108608
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    We’re waiting 72 hours for the HD version. It’s just we’ve got to watch a rubbish SD version in the meantime.

    #108609
    steven87gill
    Participant

    I’m looking forward to see how they resolve the cliffhanger, so far time travel in the show has broadly been ‘whatever you do in the past has aready been done before you went back in time in the first place’.

    #108610
    hummingbird
    Participant

    Noooo, no spoilers until after Friday! I can’t watch until then coz my machine is in Silicon Hospital :-(

    #108612

    Oh my god! I can’t believe they were on Barry Island all along!

    #108613
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >Noooo, no spoilers until after Friday! I can?t watch until then coz my machine is in Silicon Hospital :-(

    Keep out of the thread until then, then! Simple!

    #108614
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >You guys aren?t prepared to wait 72 hours? Sheesh.

    No Sky, sir. No sleeves!

    #108615
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Ah, furry muff.

    #108616
    Blisschick
    Participant

    Aw, darn, and I was prepared to start the latest debates about the stuff revealed and dive into speculation, but I won’t spoil it for you guys. Let’s just say something was finally answered, but as usual, it just lead to more questions.

    And I still want to smack Jack and tell him to quit being such a crybaby.

    #108620
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    > Let?s just say something was finally answered

    Was it the question “What will happen in the first episode?”

    I’d get a torrent going, but it would take it till Sunday to get the full episode…quicker to watch on the friday.

    #108621
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    I’m ten minutes into the episode now, and there’s a Father Ted quotation I want to do so, so, so very badly. But I won’t. Yet.

    #108622
    Blisschick
    Participant

    >Was it the question ?What will happen in the first episode??

    Ha! No, I haven’t gotten that one in awhile. Anyone who has express interest in the show this late in the game has been pointed to the DVD’s and told not to ask me anything. It’s too complicated to explain. Really really.

    #108625
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    It’s now Wednesday night, so I’m declaring this thread OPEN FOR SPOILERS. Those of who you are hanging around not having watched it, it’s YOUR OWN LOOKOUT from now on.

    Although I don’t have much to say about it yet, save that I’m pleased it’s going down the “split timelines” route. Clearly it’s going to turn out that everyone’s lives would have been completely shitty if they hadn’t crashed anyway. I found it amusing the way they were covering certain actors (namely that annoying wossface blonde girl from season one) not coming back by having slight differences in the timeline (I bet that’s NEVER explained). Generally, though, it was hardly the most exhilhirating/exciting episode ever. I spent most of it trying to remember exactly where everyone had been left at the end of season five (which, let’s face it, was a LONG time ago now) anyway. And how many bloody death scenes can one character (Juliet) GET?

    Also: “DON’T TELL ME I’M STILL ON THAT FECKIN’ ISLAND!”

    #108626
    Blisschick
    Participant

    >I found it amusing the way they were covering certain actors (namely that annoying wossface blonde girl from season one) not coming back

    Shannon. Ugh. Good riddance. I also noticed that Anna-Lucia and Libby weren’t shown, either, but Frogurt had an appearance, thankfully with no dialog. Why did they feel the need to include him? Bring on the flaming arrows.

    #108627
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    See, I get why the stuff referencing right back to the first ep/season was great for long-term fans, but… I’m not one. As far as I’m concerned, Lost is all about Ben and Desmond and Daniel. And Richard.

    #108628
    Blisschick
    Participant

    And John.

    #108632
    Dave
    Participant

    >Also: ?DON?T TELL ME I?M STILL ON THAT FECKIN? ISLAND!?

    A YouTube video waiting to happen

    #108642
    pfm
    Participant

    > I found it amusing the way they were covering certain actors (namely that annoying wossface blonde girl from season one) not coming back by having slight differences in the timeline (I bet that?s NEVER explained).

    What’s interesting about that particular difference is that surely the bomb going off had no impact on Shannon’s decision to stay in Australia? Unless…maybe in this timeline her dad never died in that car crash. Something like that. It probably will never be explained. They could easily have said she was in the bathroom. I’m sure Maggie Grace did return to film something at a later time. We shall see.

    > As far as I?m concerned, Lost is all about Ben and Desmond and Daniel. And Richard.

    I don’t think Desmond or Daniel Faraday are going to have much of a role, which is so sad considering how great their connection was in arguably the best ever episode, ‘The Constant’. They were easily two of the best cast members, Henry Ian Cuisak in particular a fantastic actor.

    I’m guessing they had to kill Faraday and leave Desmond with his ‘happy ending’ because they knew the whole storyline was just too big for them to deal with when they had to focus on the other core characters for the final season. I doubt this is the last they’ll appear onscreen (obviously Jack’s already seen Desmond, whether he was actually on the plane is up for debate) but their stories are essentially done. Bummer.

    #108646
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    What?s interesting about that particular difference is that surely the bomb going off had no impact on Shannon?s decision to stay in Australia? Unless?maybe in this timeline her dad never died in that car crash. Something like that. It probably will never be explained. They could easily have said she was in the bathroom. I?m sure Maggie Grace did return to film something at a later time. We shall see.

    If Maggie Grace didn’t want to come back, then I actually think it’s a situation where they should have bitten the bullet and recast. It’s more credibility-damaging to come up with a convoluted reason for her not to be around, when pretty much everything else stayed as it should have been. See also: Walt. It’s possibly a controversial opinion, but when the original kid got too old, they really should have recast.

    #108647
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >They were easily two of the best cast members, Henry Ian Cuisak in particular a fantastic actor.

    Every time Desmond says “brother” (including in LA X) it’s basically my favourite moment of that particular episode. I don’t quite know why.

    #108648
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Incidentally (sorry for triple post) and this is going to damage my credibility as regards even commenting on Lost (as it’s akin to a New Who fan saying they’ve never seen Blink or Human Nature or Dalek) but I’ve never seen The Constant. Season four was around the time I was still just starting to pay attention, and for some reason that’s one I missed. Even entirely out of context/timeline I think I need to rectify that, though, so I’m downloading it.

    #108651
    Carlito
    Participant

    > So far my quest for a HD version is proving fruitless. God, I miss Mininova.

    I don’t watch Lost so I haven’t been on a quest for a HD version, but apparently http://www.monova.org/ is meant to be the ‘replacement site’ for Mininova, may be worth checking out if you haven’t already…

    #108652
    Bob Loblaw
    Participant

    Cuse and Lindelof answer some questions from the premiere:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKv1R66W8PM

    #108658
    pfm
    Participant

    Seb, you’ve really got to watch ‘The Constant’, even though, in retrospect, killing off Faraday and cutting Desmond’s role down maybe lessens its impact. I still reckon it’s one of the best single episodes of anything I’ve ever seen. That, ‘The Shape Of Things To Come’ and the 2-part finale are, for me, Lost’s real peak. I’ll be very surprised if they can top those.

    #108660
    Voter Colonel
    Participant

    Walt was meant to be older when we saw him again because of the difference in the rate of time flow between the Island and everywhere else.

    I enjoyed watching Bram get staked, I wonder if that was an intentional Dracula gag? Also strangely satisfying to see Richard get punched.

    #108661
    Voter Colonel
    Participant

    Oh yeah, just occurred to me some parallels between this “alternate timeline” and earlier series:
    Jack resuscitates Charlie after choking, just like when he was hung by Ethan.
    Charlie tells Jack he was “meant to die”, which echoes his inescapable death as predicted by Desmond.
    People lose the same things on landing at LAX as they did on the Island – Jack loses his father’s body, Jin loses his watch. Edward Mars loses his captive. Not sure about Locke’s knives but didn’t Boone or Sawyer or somebody pick them up originally before they got back to Locke?

    #108664
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Good spot! Like I say, I think a big point is going to be that even if they hadn’t crashed on the island, they would have had similar (and similarly crappy) lives.

    #108667
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    I’ve never seen Lost. What have I missed so far? ;-)

    #108668
    pfm
    Participant

    Only one of the greatest TV shows ever produced. So not much, really.

    #108672
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    So it’s better than Robin’s Nest then? Well I could still watch it. I dont really know anything about it apart from an Island and something about a trap door and a polar bear. Is it ending soon?

    #108676
    ChrisM
    Participant

    This is the last series. So, sort of. (But bear in mind American series are quite long and we’re just a couple of episode in on Sky1&2 now, so plenty to go.)

    I’m thoroughly enjoying this one so far though. A newbie might be a bit lost* at this stage though. They have a kind of special ‘catch up- story so far’ episode if you don’t mind being spoiled, but this late in the day I’d suggest watching at least some of the earlier series.

    *No, I wasn’t making a bad joke there, I wrote that without thinking.

    #108677
    Bob Loblaw
    Participant

    I think one of the things that makes LOST so great is all theorising and debating it brings up from episode to episode. I feel like people watching the complete box set through in a couple of months will miss out on all the other parts of the LOST universe.

    Oh, and this made me laugh. A lot.

    #108679
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    People seem to have been saying all over the place that the fact that the “man in black” is also the smoke monster is a “revelation”. Er, was I the only one who figured it out in the season five finale? The bit where the monster pretended to be Alex, and then all of a sudden the Locke-version was around? It was blatant, innit?

    #108681
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > and then all of a sudden the Locke-version was around?

    But at that point no one even knew that *wasn’t* Locke. After the finale it was assumed the Man in Black was the Smoke Monster, but there#’s big difference between fan assumption and the show confirming it.

    #108682
    Bob Loblaw
    Participant

    In the second part of the interview I linked to earlier, Lindelof says that MIB is not in Locke’s body, while Cuse confirms it is smokey. Could just be lying.

    #108683
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Well, MiB is obviously not in Locke’s body as Locke’s body was in the coffin.

    #108684
    pfm
    Participant

    Yeah, the smoke monster doesn’t inhabit dead people’s bodies, it can appear to people in the form of a dead person. At one stage we thought the body had to disappear, as though the monster had ‘consumed’ it, though this obviously didn’t happen with Locke because his body’s intact.

    I don’t think Christian Shephard’s appearances were ever the monster posing as him. He is something else.

    #108685
    Bob Loblaw
    Participant

    That’s what I meant to say, Man in Locke isn’t Man in Black. And what does that make Walt?

    #108686
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I don’t actually like the whole MIB is Smokie revelation. I was looking back over series 1 when Smokie was first crashing through the trees and ripping pilots from plane wreckages and such. It didn’t seem to me to be a sentient person in another form…more a supernatural and fearsome force. I would have prefered it to be a creature/entity that could be called upon by MIB or was granted the task of protecting some section of the island…maybe the temple area or something.

    Also, I’m predicting that Jacob is God or some similar representation of good and that MIB is the devil. Seems weird that we haven’t had his name yet. Could it be Lucifer?…Satan? Something like that.

    The scene that had these two talking at the start of series 5 showed them talking about an inevitable outcome. The route to this outcome changed, but not the outcome itself. I’m predicting that the “inevitable outcome” is that Good will always triumph over Evil. And now MIB has found his “loophole”, perhaps evil will triumph!

    #108690
    Blisschick
    Participant

    >Oh, and this made me laugh. A lot.

    Best. Link. Evah. Me and the hubby got a good laugh out of that!

    #108834
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Fuck me, that was a good one. Surprised to get some proper revelations this early in the season. Also, episodes that focus on Locke are great.

    Also, Ben as an uptight teacher complaining about coffee made me do proper LOLs.

    #108839
    si
    Participant

    There was a photo of a woman in the paper a day or two, and she was the spitting image of Hurley. Unfortunately, I can’t find the picture, or remember the story. So… pointless, really.

    #109836
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Anyone watched this yet? Nice bit of television, but would have liked it if they’d explained stuff from the first five years of the show, rather than just the last one.

    #109838
    hummingbird
    Participant

    I haven’t seen the finale yet, but I’m wondering what you think hasn’t been explained?
    I think they’ve done a pretty good job of explaining most of what’s happened since day 1 – certainly all the important stuff.

    #109839
    Jo
    Participant

    >Anyone watched this yet? Nice bit of television, but would have liked it if they’d explained stuff from the first five years of the show, rather than just the last one.

    Yup, I watched it at 5am this morning. What did you want them to explain?

    Lisa – Why are you in a LOST thread risking being spoilered if you’ve not watched it yet?!

    #109840
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Well, ignoring anything that can be explained away as being to do with Island’s powers (which I hadn’t expected to get an answer to)…

    Why they were all (including non-candidates)connected before the Island?, What happened to Walt and why was he seemingly so important in the first two seasons?, Why did Charlie go mad before Aaron’s baptism?, What was all the time travel about?, What did Widmore actually want beyond a vague exploitation of the Island’s power?, Why did Claire leave Aaron?, What possessed Sayid?, What was all that bollocks about Jack’s tattoo?, Why did Sayid end up with Shannon rather than Nadia? Why did Ben kill Locke after talking him out of killing himself? Why did Ben believe he was in control of Smokie?

    For starters.

    I’d also like an explanation for the numbers, but apparently this was covered in spin-off media. Which is lame.

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