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  • #6100
    littlesmegger
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    Digital Spy have held their annual Cult Awards, and Red Dwarf has won the Biggest Disappointment Award for Back to Earth:

    “Expectations weren’t exactly high when it emerged that the boys from The Dwarf were making a small screen comeback earlier this year. But surely the decade since the poor eighth season could have been used by remaining writer Doug Naylor to formulate some fresh jokes? As it turned out, Red Dwarf: Back To Earth was more stale than one of Dave Lister’s urine recyc beverages. Still, at least fans of Blade Runner had a lot to enjoy thanks to the repeated references.”

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/news/a191910/the-cult-spy-awards-2009.html

    #107175
    TheLeen
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    Oh, fuck off.

    #107176
    littlesmegger
    Participant

    I know, they clearly didn’t take notice at the ratings it made, or the fact that soon enough at least 6 new episodes will be confirmed for Dave in 2010.

    So much of a disappointment, that it’s successful enough to come back again! *rolls eyes*

    #107177
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Was their actually any voting for these catergories or is this just one of those end of year filler pieces where some nobjockey decrees his godly wisdom over everything?

    #107180
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I probably agree with the award – “Biggest Disappointment” certainly sums up my feelings more than, say “Worst Show” – but not the lazy bit of critique that goes with it. But that’s the problem when you make these things so short – something that deserves a complex reaction has to be condensed into a paragraph.

    In the end, though, it’s just “their take”. They’re under no obligation to reflect how other people thought about the show. I probably would if I was writing it, mind, but then my writing is full of ridiculous qualifiers most of the time!

    #107181
    JamesTC
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    Well BTE beat my expectations.
    ‘Planet of the Dead’ was easily the biggest disappointment of the year.

    #107182
    JamesTC
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    Well BTE beat my expectations.
    ‘Planet of the Dead’ was easily the biggest disappointment of the year.

    #107183
    Jo
    Participant

    It was such a huge disappointment that he thought it was worth mentioning twice…

    #107184
    JamesTC
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    ?Planet of the Dead? was easily the biggest disappointment of the year.

    Three times actually.

    #107185

    My biggest disappointment this year wasn’t BtE it was other people’s reactions to it.

    A couple of pacing issues aside I loved it. With no film on the cards BtE was the next best thing. It did exactly what, in retrospect, I thought VII should have done which was to be MORE ‘filmic’, less gags for gags’ sake, more true to character. VII was neither here nor there but BtE was…er, there.

    Top performance from Craig and everyone else slipped right back into their roles, partying like it was 1993. Excellent effects, breathtaking in places. Sophie was lovely AND indeed Chloe, who’s appearance really did take us all by surprise.

    It wasn’t the sitcom Dwarf but it never needed to be. We’ve already been treated to plenty of the sitcom Dwarf, and who knows maybe we’ll get some more in the next series (still can’t believe there’s actually going to be a new series…).

    As for Planet of the Dead, tbh I’ve done tastier shits.

    #107186
    hummingbird
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    > Oh, fuck off.

    This.

    #107187
    NitroChrisUK
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    >?Planet of the Dead? was easily the biggest disappointment of the year.

    This.

    #107188
    Jo
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    >?Planet of the Dead? was easily the biggest disappointment of the year.
    >Three times actually.

    *facepalm*

    #107190
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Planet of the Dead was bloody awful – but it’s not my Disappointment of the Year, simply because I wasn’t excited about it in the first place. I was all pumped for Dwarf…

    But regarding people’s reactions – I think BTE got MORE than enough positive coverage. How many people, for instance, would have predicted the vast majority of the writing staff of G&T would be raving about the show – after the general reaction VII/VIII got? To say nothing about the audience figures…

    I think I’ll spare you all my BTE rehashes, though. They were painful enough the first time. And it’s Christmas.

    #107191
    Kris Carter
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    I agree BTE was a disappointment, to me at least. I tried NOT to be pumped for it, but gaahhhh…. But like all good Red Dwarf fans, I’ve ratcheted down my expectations over time for what it actually was , and I can accept it now as a solid bit of Dwarf history, better than VIII, probably on a par with VII, and not holding up terribly well compared to the earlier series…

    #107192

    > How many people, for instance, would have predicted the vast majority of the writing staff of G&T would be raving about the show – after the general reaction VII/VIII got?

    Not many. It was good to hear tbh because I know a lot of people, maybe not on this level of fandom but still definitely fans of the show, didn’t. Those unfamiliar with Blade Runner didn’t appreciate it as much. More casual fans were never going to be that affected by the Lister character stuff, whereas most of us have been on a pretty long journey with these guys so material like that hits home, even if Kochanski has been sort of universally despised (her onscreen incarnation anyway).

    When you’ve seen the episodes as many times as we have you DO yearn for something fresh and different. Each series has been different from its predecessor and that’s surely one of the key reasons Dwarf kept running, why it’s STILL running? If the attitude was ‘oh we’re gonna make it like series *insert numeral*’ then you might as well forget it. VIII turned out a little like that. It’s like ‘oh shit, they didn’t like what we did in VII, let’s go back’ it was one step forward and too many steps back. *sigh* it’s not like anyone cares about this anymore…I feel like I’m having a relapse.

    #107193
    p2p_productions
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    BtE should, at the very least, have won ‘Best Marketed TV Special’, or something, somewhere.

    Personally, I thought the little tie-in sites, etc were great – just made the run-up to the premiere all the more special, IMO. In retrospect, they almost suggested an even more ‘grand’ affair than what eventually went out. The Lister postcard for instance, (if I recall) was worded as if the rest of the crew were searching for him. Kinda reminded me of Backwards (the novel).

    #107195
    Pongo
    Participant

    Gets my vote.

    #107197
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Loved the marketing of BTE, yeah. It created real excitement around the show that so few British telly programmes other than Who manage.

    I still have fond memories of Berkley Square, whatever my opinion on the final shows is.

    #107198
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    Is that Fond memories of Robert Lindsay singing?

    “Is there anybody there?”

    #107200
    Andrew
    Participant

    “There’s nobody here but us chickens.”

    Nightingales is a severely underrated sitcom.

    #107229
    Nick R
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    John Hoare
    > I probably would if I was writing it, mind, but then my writing is full of ridiculous qualifiers most of the time!

    I think that for the most part I find that in my opinion I generally agree (although having said that, your mileage may vary).

    #107290
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    My biggest disappointment this year wasn?t BtE it was other people?s reactions to it.

    A couple of pacing issues aside I loved it. With no film on the cards BtE was the next best thing. It did exactly what, in retrospect, I thought VII should have done which was to be MORE ?filmic?, less gags for gags? sake, more true to character. VII was neither here nor there but BtE was?er, there.

    Top performance from Craig and everyone else slipped right back into their roles, partying like it was 1993. Excellent effects, breathtaking in places. Sophie was lovely AND indeed Chloe, who?s appearance really did take us all by surprise.

    It wasn?t the sitcom Dwarf but it never needed to be. We?ve already been treated to plenty of the sitcom Dwarf, and who knows maybe we?ll get some more in the next series (still can?t believe there?s actually going to be a new series?).

    As for Planet of the Dead, tbh I?ve done tastier shits.

    Sometimes I love you, performingmonkey.

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