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  • #4532
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Anyone else going to watch these?

    I’ve got to admit I’m quite a huge fan of Derren Brown. So I will.

    #103027
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Yeah. I have a habit of missing his stuff, but I always enjoy it when I do catch it. And this looks INTERESTING.

    Plus I may have possibly based a revamp of a famous Marvel character on him in a script I’m writing at the moment.

    #103028
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Ditto. Seen him live several times and he never ceases to amaze.

    Apparently he’s predicting the lottery numbers on Wednesday night…(?!)

    #103030
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    NO! DO NOT IMAGINE THE EVENT HAPPENING AGAIN.

    #103036
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Can’t. Bloody. Wait.

    His shows are always excellently produced, as well.

    #103038
    redhead85
    Participant

    The advert reminds me of ‘Backwards’, especially with that angry cyclist…

    #103039
    Andrew
    Participant

    Yeah, I’m very keen to see this. Of all the show’s Brown’s done, only the Russian Roulette show ever disappointed me.

    #103041

    > only the Russian Roulette show ever disappointed me.

    Why? At the time I thought it was great, really gripping, even though in the back of your mind you know he’s in no danger. The build-up to it was a tad boring maybe, and the whole thing seems lame in retrospect (it’s a shame it was ruined later by the police having to confirm that no live rounds were used), but I could watch the ‘live’ scene again and again. Saying that, I can’t find it on youtube anymore, at least not the proper version that was on Ch4. What lunacy we have to endure.

    #103040
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    For the Russian Roulette, I couldn’t take my eyes off the screen. It was morbid curiosity that made me watch it, in honesty.

    #103043

    > It was morbid curiosity that made me watch it, in honesty.

    The way he made it look like he’d messed it up was the masterstroke. When he pointed it at the bag but it didn’t fire… anyone who wasn’t biting their nails or otherwise from that point on is a liar.

    #103044
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    This is what makes him great – he’s a damned good showman. He gets away with a lot because of the quite disarming (and non-cocky – he’s confident, but he’s not unbearably arrogant) way he comes across – he makes you feel like it’s all a big con that you’re actually in on, when in fact he’s conning you just as much, only in a different way.

    And yeah, you knew he wasn’t actually going to shoot himself on live TV, but that didn’t stop it being utterly, utterly compelling viewing.

    (actually, given that people knew it was on a time delay, what he REALLY should have done was have the screen suddenly go black with a “technical fault” the moment he was shown picking up the gun the last time. That would have shit people RIGHT up.)

    #103045
    Tanya Jones
    Participant

    I had to turn over when watching the Russian Roulette programme, but I’m a big wimp :)

    #103047
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    (what he REALLY should have done was have the screen suddenly go black with a ?technical fault? the moment he was shown picking up the gun the last time. That would have shit people RIGHT up.)

    Yes it bloody well would have!!!

    A voiceover alongside: “Due to unforeseen curcumstances, the rest of tonight’s planned show cannot be broadcast” would have topped that off. hehe.

    #103050

    Lol they would NEVER have done that. Imagine the complaints!! Nationwide panic as a million people think Derren has just killed himself. It would have been great but that’s the kind of thing that could have killed his TV career.

    #103051
    Andrew
    Participant

    Paul Daniels already did it in 1989.

    Big escape trick, Halloween night. Spiked cabinet thing (I think) crashed down on where he was, screams, lights down, and a voice asking the audience to please remain calm. Credits ran quickly over silence.

    It was only after Ghostwatch, which immediately followed it, that they cut back to the stage and showed Paul, absolutely fine, explaining that it was just a prank. If the population hadn’t gone nuts for the faux documentary, I’m sure the reaction would have been huge. But the tabs were too busy talking about ghostly possession and suicides caused by a piece of drama to notice.

    #103057

    > Nationwide panic as a million people think Derren has just killed himself.

    I know for a fact there’s no champagne.

    #103061
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Paul Daniels already did it in 1989.

    Big escape trick, Halloween night. Spiked cabinet thing (I think) crashed down on where he was, screams, lights down, and a voice asking the audience to please remain calm. Credits ran quickly over silence.

    It was only after Ghostwatch, which immediately followed it, that they cut back to the stage and showed Paul, absolutely fine, explaining that it was just a prank. If the population hadn?t gone nuts for the faux documentary, I?m sure the reaction would have been huge. But the tabs were too busy talking about ghostly possession and suicides caused by a piece of drama to notice.

    Bloody hell! So that and Ghostwatch were on the same night? That’s amazing.

    (although, wasn’t Ghostwatch ’92?)

    #103062
    Carlito
    Participant

    The Paul Daniels hoax was in 1987, some five years prior to Ghostwatch.

    #103063
    Andrew
    Participant

    Oops, yeah, 92 it was. But it was definitely the same yeah as Ghostwatch. At least…I’m was sure I watched them both the same damn night. Maybe it’s all melded together in my brain!

    #103064
    Carlito
    Participant

    Must be. Daniels considers Ghostwatch a rip-off of his stunt.

    #103065
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Maybe he can expect a call from Orson Welles’ lawyers, then.

    #103066
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Oh, and Carl’s right, Andrew – your brain’s playing tricks on you ;-)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicament_escape

    #103069
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Is anyone else getting anxious about this?

    #103070
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Not anxious, no. Excited. My guess is that Derren will be writing down numbers in an envelope and this will be opened and revealed to be the correct numbers.

    There’s no way he’ll vocally predict the numbers beforehand. Because, um, that’ll be impossible.

    I’d like Derren to predict when Emile Heskey will finally bury an easy chance.

    #103071
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    You don’t need Derren Brown for that. I predict never. NEVER.

    #103076
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    OK, so Derren Brown has just predicted 6 out of 6 balls for the National Lottery draw.

    What do we think?

    Every challenge I can think of is coming up blank…

    HOW THE FUCK???!?!!??!

    Edit: I’ve never actually found myself staring at a television screen with my mouth wide open in shock before. I didn’t think actually did that.

    #103075
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    DERREN BROWN WINS.

    #103077
    John Hoare
    Participant

    THAT IS HOW YOU MAKE TELEVISION, EVERYONE.

    #103079
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Well, Derren was obviously talking out of his arse when he said they couldn’t show the predicted balls beforehand because of the agreement the BBC has with Camelot. And that’s the trick; how did they get the numbers on the balls afterwards.

    #103080
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >THAT IS HOW YOU MAKE TELEVISION, EVERYONE.

    It’s astonishing how good he is at making gripping telly out of not very much. I think the massively sparse set was designed to trigger memories of the Russian roulette – at least, it did for me, and made it feel really tense, like something completely unexpected (and unrelated to the Lottery) was going to happen any minute.

    #103082
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    The secret’s out :

    #103083
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Well, Derren was obviously talking out of his arse when he said they couldn?t show the predicted balls beforehand because of the agreement the BBC has with Camelot. And that?s the trick; how did they get the numbers on the balls afterwards

    Indeed. But I have no ideas how.

    I thought it was slightly odd that the balls were slightly out-of-kilter when revealed, rather than dead straight…

    #103084
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    It’s got to be a trick relating to the “reveal” of the balls, yeah – because ideally, he’d have shown them beforehand.

    (I mean, how can Camelot claim that no-one’s allowed to show the numbers beforehand? You can’t copyright a set of numbers, for fuck’s sake)

    I just wonder how he’s going to spin an hour long show out of it. But still, this has done its job – EVERYONE’s going to be watching on Friday.

    #103085
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Yeah, sorry if that came out as patronising and obvious but I’ve stumbled across a lot of threads that are claiming there was a time delay or that Derren has genuine psychic ability.

    Awesome pic, Seb.

    #103086
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Wondering if something can somehow paint the numbers on from the bottom, and then invisibly swivel them to be in the correct position…

    But… well, that stand looked pretty insubstantial to me.

    #103088
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Yes, that was superb. The only think I can think of is split screen, but it’d have to be fucking clever considering the camera was moving about all over the place.

    #103089
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    The camera was visibly shifting all the time, first thing I noticed. Split screen would be really difficult, but to risk trying on the illusion of trying to track ANYTHING live. That would be incredibly fucking ballsy of them.

    #103091
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    To be fair, though, if they have done that with split screen in real-time, then that doesn’t make it any less fucking impressive.

    #103090

    Figured it out, I think, with the aid of other posters on DS. Personally I don’t think it ruins it knowing how it was done, especially with Derren, because how he pulls off illusions is fascinating enough in itself. It’s more interesting than him actually being able to predict the numbers, which we all know is impossible. Everyone on here surely appreciates a great piece of television.

    Split screen with a motion control camera and a greenscreen TV. The unnecessary cut to the long shot where he’s waving his arms, when it cuts back it’s NOT the handheld camera, it’s a motion control camera doing slight movements to stop it looking fixed. When he walked in with the hanheld camera that was pre-recorded. Derren is live only after he’s waved his arms. He’s looking at a greenscreen, not the draw, though he can obviously hear it or is being prompted in his ear. The left side of the screen (the ball stand) is a pre-record. When the draw is happening Derren stops speaking, not just for dramatic effect, but so they can lower the audio so we don’t hear the balls being swapped, and so the people doing the swapping can concentrate.

    If you watch it back, just as Derren says ’23’ when he’s listing off the numbers at the end you can see that’s the exact moment the wipe is done on the left side of the screen (the ball stand) from pre-record to live picture. Watch the far left hand ball (39) at that moment, it ‘moves’ ever so slightly upwards. They didn’t push the ball in far enough. Dwarf was doing stuff like this 20 years ago! The technology now can make it even less noticeable (and it would have been completely undetectable if they had only pushed the ball down further, amateurs!!).

    #103092
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Figured it out, I think,

    Right so we have a motion control camera, after the long shot, which is simulating real movement, as the lottery numbers are being drawn, someone is already placing the balls in the stand, and while the number are being read out by Derren, this is giving the vision mixer time to blend the old stand to the new stand with the winning numbers.

    Can’t fault that theory. Everything pans out. Very clever stuff. The misdirection is watching Derren while he’s writing the numbers down, so as not to notice any movement, if there was any (which there was, unfortunately) on the stand.

    However, I still think that it wasn’t a greenscreen TV, as it’s an unnecessary part of the illusion, the stand is far enough away from the screen to need to do it. I’m deducing that the right hand side of the screen was completely as it was. The left hand side is how you said, PM.

    I’ve just realised I’ve taped this, so i’ll have no problem showing the family the process involved. Over and over and over again. Need to keep a hard copy somehow…

    #103093
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Yep, I can also see the left-most ball moving as well, at the moment Derren says “23” – I’ve gone back and rewatched my HD recording, and can see it clearly. It’s a split-screen with motion control.

    Agree with Danny that it isn’t a greenscreen on the telly, though. No need.

    FUCKING brilliant, though – a really brilliantly done live camera trick, and worthy of applause. But he can’t fill an hour show with it on Friday – not to the general public, at least!

    #103094
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    I could make a “How he did it video for Youtube” but It would take all night, and i really can’t be arsed…

    COuld someone do it though?

    #103095
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    It’s noticeable how he stumbles over reading out the numbers at the end, and has to check the last one – surely he’d know them off by heart?

    #103096
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    All the talk of a “year’s obsession with this”, it’s all timed down to the second with the motion control camera. the

    “we can’t show this for 30 seconds”

    “we can only show this for a few minutes”

    I’ll bet right down to the time that the lottery numbers are drawn.

    “a year obsession” working out the average time the balls are drawn?

    I don’t care that it was a trick. ALL of Derren Brown’s Stuff is done with careful planning, tons of research and meticulous care and attention made to everything down to ‘the reason why that light is over there’ details.

    He tweeted “Smug” shortly after the event, and after fooling the millions of people that he did it. I fucking well would be.

    It’s a damn shame that bloody ball moved. I doubt anyone would have worked it out otherwise, it’s seems to be the only way people has sussed it.

    It?s noticeable how he stumbles over reading out the numbers at the end, and has to check the last one – surely he?d know them off by heart?

    I was thinking the exact same thing when I watched it the second time round.

    #103097

    I’ve forgotten why I even thought the TV had to be greenscreened/superimposed. Derren doesn’t act like he’s actually watching the broadcast. He doesn’t react to the numbers appearing. Though there’s no way the Lottery audio we hear is from the speakers of the TV. We would also be able to hear the crew fumbling about with the balls (ooh er).

    This was so brilliantly put together, though I highly doubt he will ‘reveal’ the real explanation on Friday. If he starts going on about odds and patterns I’m gonna be pissed off!

    #103098
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    If he starts going on about odds and patterns I?m gonna be pissed off!

    I bet that’s EXACTLY what he’s going to do, go through the spiel of combinations, with some tricks and some stuff and then at the end just go:

    “Hold it hold it, OK i’ll tell you how I did it…”

    And show the real explanation right at the end.

    No harm, no foul, no cheating. Just good telly.

    Seriously though, if that ball hadn’t have moved… Although the motion control does stop temporarily as well. Maybe they would have got it from that anyway?

    Who knows.

    #103099
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Did anyone watch the thing that was on afterwards? Because on a few occasions there, he made up a fake explanation for how he did something, before then giving the (much more simple) real version. I’ll bet that’s what we get here.

    #103100
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    The only thing I’ll say about the split-screen (and it was what I was leaning to after waching it on time-shift), is that Derren does similar stuff in his live shows which clearly does not use this technique. Evening of Wonders (shown on E4 yesterday) concludes with a “prediction” of the night’s events being read from a scroll that has been locked in a box for the duration of the show. I’d be more inclined to believe the technique is similar.

    Also, it’s worth noting that Derren even lies about explanations, often throwing you off the real solution with misdirection. I’m not totally convinced we’ll get the full story tomorrow.

    Ah, what a legend.

    #103101
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    (By the way, I reckon he did the EoW prediction with a trick table)

    #103102
    Andrew
    Participant

    > Must be. Daniels considers Ghostwatch a rip-off of his stunt.

    My rotting brain must have fused that information. Or something. Apologies for the uselessness.

    #103104
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Ah, False memories. Like Blade Runner…

    Does anyone else remember walking through the gates of Disneyland and meeting Bugs Bunny for the first time?

    No?

    Me neither, I’ve never been to Disneyland.

    #103108
    John Hoare
    Participant
    #103114
    pendo86
    Participant

    Did anyone else see subliminal messages flashing up on screen during the show after the Lottery show? They flashed up too quickly for me to read but it got me thinking about what Derren’s got planned for this ‘Event’ of his…

    #103116
    Nick R
    Participant

    My mum won a tenner on those numbers! Woohoo!

    Trailer for the explanation programme. A snowflake… hmm… freeze-frame?

    I noticed he kept reiterating “I’ve done nothing illegal” in his patter. I wonder if that’s got anything to do with anything.

    Would the fact that the balls are white like those used on motion capture suits make it easier to track them for any split-screening or superimposing that might be going on?

    The problem with all the theories about technology (split screen with digital camera wobble; lasers shining photochemical inks on the balls) is that it goes against the bit at the end where he says “how I did it and how you can do it too”.

    Did anyone else see subliminal messages flashing up on screen during the show after the Lottery show? They flashed up too quickly for me to read but it got me thinking about what Derren?s got planned for this ?Event? of his?

    The word was “forget”.

    #103119
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >Does anyone else remember walking through the gates of Disneyland and meeting Bugs Bunny for the first time?
    >I?ve never been to Disneyland.

    Even if you had.. you won’t meet him there. (Or is that part of the joke?) The WB Loony toons crowd hang out at Magic Mountain (at least there pictures do.) Much better rides there too (at least they were when I went there).

    #103125
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Except Six Flags are going into receivership. Which is understandable considering their mascot is a greepy old man telling kids to come to his theme parks.

    #103127

    > how I did it and how you can do it too

    Well, anyone with a video camera on a tripod and some good video editing software COULD have a good stab at doing it, but not live (I don’t think). It would never look as good as Derren’s though.

    The way he’s talking in the trailer for the ‘reveal’ show makes me think he WILL give the real explanation. It’s a shame everyone’s got it sussed tbh. If it wasn’t for the ball moving there’s no way we could be 100%. Even with that giveaway I’m not sure we can be. 99% perhaps. It IS split screen, there’s just a few of the details we can’t know for sure till he tells us.

    #103131
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Would the fact that the balls are white like those used on motion capture suits

    Am I right in thinking that those little balls are reflective? on the suits not on Derren’s Stand.

    I’ve been looking into front projection and special effects lately and it’s got me thinking about taking it a step further…

    #103136
    Ridley
    Participant

    It?s a shame everyone?s got it sussed tbh.

    I’m putting my faith in that everyone’s wrong.

    #103140
    Andrew
    Participant

    I feel like we’re dissecting the Easter Bunny…

    #103142

    > I feel like we?re dissecting the Easter Bunny?

    I did that once. All I found inside was some jelly beans.

    #103149
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I doubt Derren is too bothered. He’s quite open with the way he bullshits his audience and seems happy for people to analyse his techniques and question how he does things. His mainstream book makes this pretty clear in the chapter on faith.

    #103151
    Andrew
    Participant

    I wasn’t suggesting Derren would be bothered. Just that there’s a measure of fun in letting the event play out as-is. Just as I prefer not to try and second-guess the twists in movies – mostly I’d rather be carried along and actually surprised.

    That said…the promotional trailers for this show are starting to make sense now. A combination of elements that could only be combined with a motion-controlled shoot..

    #103154
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    A combination of elements that could only be combined with a motion-controlled shoot..

    Bloody hell!!! Of course!!

    #103155
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    >I wasn?t suggesting Derren would be bothered.

    I wasn’t suggesting you were suggesting Derren would be bothered, just stating my thoughts on whether it was a good idea to analyse this in this much detail.

    And I think that’s been part of the fun. I’m unable to watch a film without predicting a twist, or watch an episode of Jonathan Creek without playing along. It just comes naturally to some people.

    #103171
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Right, so we’ve seen the explanation. Are we happy?

    #103173
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    I don’t mind being lied to if they’re entertaining lies – but that bored the ARSE off me.

    #103174
    Mr Flibble
    Participant

    What a load of bollocks.

    But lots of people seem to be believing it, so I guess that’s the great British public brainwashed for another day.

    #103175
    Mr Flibble
    Participant

    I don?t mind being lied to if they?re entertaining lies – but that bored the ARSE off me.

    But were you not bored like I was because you know how it was really done?

    #103177
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I don’t think Derren has EVER irritated me before, but he did here. The only thing this succeeded in doing was throwing the Russian Roulette trick further into question.

    Derren has spent a considerable amount of time questioning belief systems, so to end with 24 people thinking they have a predicted the lottery result left with me feeling decidedly uneasy.

    I’m a huge fan of the guy but I think the publicity this has garnered will do him no favours in light of this show.

    #103178

    God, that show pissed me off. When he mentioned lasers and split screens at the beginning it was like ‘but that’s how you did it, you fucking lying prick!’

    > Derren has spent a considerable amount of time questioning belief systems

    Yeah, this Lottery show won’t wash well with real fans of his who’ve already seen him tear apart methods and systems like this in past shows. Anyone only just sucked into his world might buy it, or might at least entertain such notions.

    I thought he was gonna reveal the split screen explanation right at the very end but NO. When the 3 possible explanations appeared on the screen again a no.4 should have appeared underneath saying ‘Camera trickery’ or something. I seriously think the real explanation would have made for a more entertaining programme than all the automatic writing and mouse bollocks.

    There’s a thought, he should have shown footage of the mouse pushing the balls up the tube!!!

    #103179
    Andrew
    Participant

    I’m certain I would have enjoyed it more if I’d found the theory credible. And I suspect I would have done, for the runtime at least, if I hadn’t spent two days looking at Easter Bunny innards.

    #103181

    He could have at least tried to con us into thinking the reveal was faked in a different way to motion control and split screen. Mirrors, the Pepper’s Ghost illusion and whatnot. Although, showing us a wideshot of the room ruled out that shot and the handheld one preceding it being anything other than pre-records. Even if it could have been the Pepper’s Ghost illusion we would have seen the glass line on the floor because it’s such a well-lit room.

    #103183
    Nick R
    Participant

    I don’t care that he didn’t give a real explanation of how he did the trick, whether it was sleight-of-hand or high-tech equipment or whatever. The problem was simply that this was one of his weakest shows, and felt very padded out (it didn’t really need both of the tricks involving mice). He could have mentioned things like the Monty Hall problem and the way our minds have trouble with the counter-intuitive aspects of probabilities, without his show necessarily becoming a maths lecture. It would have been more interesting (well, to me…) than all that nonspecific talk of DEEP MATHS.

    And until now he hasn’t really come under fire from scientific sceptics (other than Simon Singh) because he goes out of his way to make it clear that the likes of mediums are charlatans. But this time the show finished with a lot of people left with the impression that willpower can influence random events.

    Having said that, his presentation of how I would have done it (phrase ? OJ Simpson) was pretty entertaining. “Hypnotised the security guards…!”

    And if it gets lots more people to play the lottery this week then that’s more money they can distribute to good causes, so hooray for that!

    #103186
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I get the feeling that if he’d switched the shows round (deconstruction, trick) I would have been far more satisfied. He wouldn’t have got as many viewers or nearly as much publicity, obviously.

    #103334
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Shit I nrealy forgot about this. Now although I was slightly annoyed by the last show. However, I’m still rather curious abotu this one.

    If it works, I genuinely will be stumped…

    #103344
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I caught two flashing pictures of a person sitting down before the film started.

    #103345
    Beligium
    Participant

    Gawd, so bad….

    #103346
    Beligium
    Participant

    “DON’T PANIC”

    #103347
    Kris Carter
    Participant

    Yeah, no subliminal images, my bottom.

    #103348
    Andrew
    Participant

    Those weren’t subliminal. Since you saw the flash AND they added a sound effect to them, they were a long way from subliminal!

    I’d say it’s safe to assume RED HERRING. As, I assume, was the film itself. It’s the vocal suggestion beforehand (along with the re-dubbed descriptions in the earlier audience tricks) that did the work, I think. Assuming it DID do the work. Anyone affected?

    #103350
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    This is the weird thing. I didn’t think this would work. Or rather didn’t think it COULD work. I wasn’t glued to my seat as such. But it did take a shitload of energy to actually stand up.

    Very weird. Not quite sure what to think of it.

    Might watch the +1 and see if the same thing happens…

    #103351
    Beligium
    Participant

    Well, part of it was the way you were sat, it takes effort to get up from that position if you are sat correctly, combined with the suggestion that you will find it difficult to stand up…

    #103352
    JamesTC
    Participant

    In the entire country atleast one person must have had diarrhea or felt ill or something and was then stuck to the seat followed by an unfortunate happenstance.

    #103354
    Carlito
    Participant

    I’m waiting for the lawsuits… people who are still stuck to their seats right now lol

    Or those who got stuck to their seats, while their houses burnt down around them… expect a bunch of self-righteous Freddie Krueger lookalikes with lawyers gracing the news media for the next few months…

    #103355
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    The Derren Brown Noise, would be a fantastic idea!!

    “How to Make the Nation Shit Themselves”

    #103369
    si
    Participant

    I haven’t seen it yet. I’ve read about about people feeling ‘trippy’ and a bit sick, and bearing in mind my recent health problems (that and the fact that everyone’s saying that it was shit), I’m in two minds whether to watch it or not.

    #103371
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    Don’t worry about it Si. Biggest anti-climax of my life…..well, biggest that involved a TV………and when I say TV I mean……

    oh forget it!

    #103383
    littlesmegger
    Participant

    My arms got stuck to my legs, but I wasn’t stuck to the chair… just felt a bit heavier. But I guess I’m someone who’s open to such suggestions. Sceptical people have already switched off and dismissed such events before they even try them.

    #103387
    Jo
    Participant

    Well we watched it, I didn’t take part just observed. Cappsy and Ian *really* wanted it to work and yet they both stood up with ease.
    I don’t think it’s a case of being open or sceptical littlesmegger.

    #103391
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    > yet they both stood up with ease.

    Ye gods! A miracle.

    #103402

    The only reason the people with Derren stayed sitting down was so they could stay on TV. Fact.

    I wound my girlfriend up by pretending to be stuck, like ‘oh my god…seriously I can’t move, I’m not even joking!’ It’s all bollocks though. The ‘subliminal’ was deliberately blurred so you wouldn’t even get dizzy by looking at it, which you WOULD normally do staring intently at something spinning like that. I loved the quick flashes of a person tied to a chair, as if that would affect anyone!

    The key, of course, was Derren talking directly to us deadly serious, his face filling the screen. It’s impossible for a spinning image to make people stick to their chairs, but it’s definitely possible to get people in a state of mind where they don’t want to move. Someone with authority basically giving you the instruction YOU WILL NOT MOVE DURING THIS FILM. If you’re concentrating enough on the whole show AND you’re a bit…choose the word carefully…it could very well have worked on you.

    #103414
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I find that generally sitting and watching the TV makes me feel heavy and getting up is difficult. Even when Derren isn’t on!

    #103419
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Worked a little for me. My arms felt very heavy on my legs, kind of like when you have an injection. Then cynicism kicked in and I stood up.

    Interesting.

    #103941
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    ?!!?

    #103942
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Proof that he is MORTAL!

    #103944
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Maybe that was the point…

    #103945
    hummingbird
    Participant

    The only thing that Derren Brown has ever influenced me to do is change channels.

    #103948
    Andrew
    Participant

    How has this show been so continually bad at faking being live? It really shouldn’t be as difficult as they’re making it look.

    #103949
    Andrew
    Participant

    (That said, having the unused giant cheque in shot was hysterical.)

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