Mrs Doubtfire

[thomasaevans]

I just want to advertise something that I was genuinley impressed with.

And thats the new ‘Mrs Doubtfire: Family Edition’ 2 Disc DVD (Known in the states as the Behind The Seams Edition…and IM NOT kidding).

First, Its an EXCELLENT film. Second, there’s some awesome special features including LOADS of deleted scenes (most on the previous dvd but not all), alternate scenes, and BEST of all… Robin Williams Improvisational scenes. THAT was a treat! Theres lodas of other stuff too like make-up tests which are pretty funny, trailers, posters, images, documentaries etc. Plus the menu’s are friendly and fresh, I would DEFINATLEY recommend It. Get it cheap at HMV.com too.

So whats the general consensus about Mrs Doubtfire among Red Dwarf fans?

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[Andrew]

I find it odd seeing a pre-Bond Brosnan being defeated by a hairy bloke in a dress.

Too many ‘quick change’ scenes, but it’s a decent enough movie. Columbus will always be a better writer than director, though.

[pfm]

> Columbus will always be a better writer than director, though.

What has he written apart from The Goonies though (admittedly a good film)? He gets a bit of an unfair rap as a director, although I suppose it’s his own fault for piling on the schmaltz – yes it’s needed in Home Alone but in Harry Potter? er no. And I urge anyone to try to sit through Bicentenial Man without throwing up.

[Pete Part Three]

Would this be the Columbus who also wrote Christmas with the Kranks and Nine Months? I’ll let him off with Gremlins but that’s it.

[penny]

>And I urge anyone to try to sit through Bicentenial Man >without throwing up.

I quite enjoyed that film

[Phil]

Oh, penny.

Oh.

Ohhhh penny…

[John Hoare]

Oh, penny.

Oh.

Ohhhh penny?

!

[Andrew]

> What has he written apart from The Goonies though (admittedly a good film)?

Gremlins, man! Gremlins!

And Young Sherlock Holmes, which I loved as a kid,

[Paul Muller]

‘And I urge anyone to try to sit through Bicentenial Man >without throwing up’

I managed to sit through it without throwing up. But when it had finished I realised I’d accidentally clawed out my own eyes.

[penny]

>Oh, penny.

>Oh.

>Ohhhh penny?

It’s nice you think of me in that way…but maybe not good to type what you are thinking at the time. ;D

>And Young Sherlock Holmes, which I loved as a kid,

Which one came first the young Indiana Jones or the Young Sherlock Holmes…anyway, both were quite good…never got to watch them much.

[Andrew]

Sherlock. By ages.

[Pete Part Three]

>And Young Sherlock Holmes, which I loved as a kid,

I’ve never heard of this…Is it like Sherlock Holmes in Miami? I’d buy that for a dollar.

[Dave]

>And Young Sherlock Holmes, which I loved as a kid

I used to live next-door-but-one from the guy that played young Sherlock Holmes

[pfm]

I suppose he does deserve some credit for Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone (or Sorcerer’s Stone, if you’re retarded). Although I would have preferred it if they’d cast less British ‘luvvies’ in the roles. Sadly that’s something that’s continued throughout the film series, although it doesn’t matter too much when you’re getting class acts like Gary Oldman, David Thewlis and Ralph Fiennes. Jim Broadbent’s going to be in the next one though and I’m thinking that might be taking it too far! Surely it’s Judi Dench next…

[Smeg4Brains]

> I quite enjoyed that film

So did I…and I’m did a Film Studies A level.

I’m quite ashamed of myself now.

[Ben Paddon]

And those clangers, eh?

[Seb Patrick]

Sherlock Holmes in Miami? I?d buy that for a dollar.

Fucking hell, someone else who’s seen Cruise. We are a rare bunch.

Meanwhile, on the subject of Mrs Doubtfire, I was going to post some Mrs Featherbottom videos, but Arrested Development is a Fox show, so there’s nothing on Youtube ;-)

[Dave]

I watched Drop Dead Fred and Alien Versus Predator yesterday, unlikeliest double bill?

[Danny Stephenson]

Drop Dead Fred really is a guilty pleasure!

[Al]

>Drop Dead Fred really is a guilty pleasure!

Havent seen that in years, I remember it as being mostly terrifying- coked up Carrie Fisher trying to throttle thin air, oh dear. I always thought that she’d just wandered into the set and the plot of the film matched whatever trip she was on!

Speaking of Alien Versus Predator (shudder) though, has anyone seen this?

http://uk.media.movies.ign.com/media/746/746237/vids_1.html

try having a looksee at the “Red Band” trailer, you have to enter your age and everything so it must be scary- I cant work out whether I like the look of it, it looks a damn sight better than the first one though!

[thomasaevans]

Agreed. The Red Band trailer is great, in that HORROR is a suitable title copared to the previous one. And I also like the Population trailer… check that. The samples from the score I’ve listened to online are exceptional.

[Ben Paddon]

Paul W. S. Anderson hasn’t made a halfway decent film in his entire career, save for the first Mortal Kombat (which was enjoyable because it kept the same tongue-in-cheek attitude as the games did). AVP was an abomination, although it does prove a lot of my theories about x VS y movies: namely that the end will always involve the two sides joining up in some manner.

Think about it. AVP ends with that Alien/Predator hybrid. Freddy Vs Jason features Jason emerging from the lack, holding Freddy’s disembodied but still very alive head, as if to imply that they are now a collaborative force for evil (a bit like that Christina Aguilera/Ricky martin duet from a few years ago).

Now taking this formula into consideration, imagine what the ending for the proposed but shelved Batman Vs Superman movie would have been like. Yeuch.

[thomasaevans]

Pray that NEVER happens. Im cringing at the thought of the Justice League. Aparently Michael Gough is in it to kinda keep it familiar. He’s better off out of it!

[Ben Paddon]

Everything I’ve heard about the Justice League movie – and I’ve heard some interesting bits of insider info – tells me that it’s going to be a complete and utter trainwreck.

[Seb Patrick]

If it even happens. Which I doubt it will.

They’d be better off ditching the idea of a “big seven” JLA movie, and make one based around the Giffen/deMatteis late ’80s/early ’90s run. Get Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson to play Blue Beetle and Booster Gold, and you’re halfway there…

[Andrew]

> If it even happens. Which I doubt it will.

They’re too close, the cast’s announced, pre-production is on. Only the writers’ strike can prevent it now – and the pressure’ on productions to keep stockpiling the tentpoles, so the script would have to be so bad even the execs refuse to shoot it.

JLA seems like a dreadful idea to me. Comic book movies fall apart with two villians – a half dozen heroes will be a nightmare.

Interesting to hear that Marvel may be crossing over the Hulk and Iron Man movies. It’s maybe a bit incestuous for the movie market, but the timing works out well enough.

(God knows the comics aren’t as easy to dip into as they could be. I’m one of the crowd that likes JMS’s run on Spidey, but Doc Strange kept turning up and, sorry Seb, I had to Wiki the character to know who the hell he was.)

[Seb Patrick]

one of the crowd that likes JMS?s run on Spidey

Wah!

Actually, it started out well… but by Christ, did it fall apart. For a while it was moderately bearable thanks to Romita Jr, but when he left… scarcely worth bothering with at all. I can’t believe how long he was on it, actually. Made it to six years, I think. Not bad, given that Kevin Smith was meant to be taking over in January 2003 ;-)

If you want some good Spidey, I suggest Ultimate. Baggage-free, good old-fashioned quality Spidey stories every month (it’s had the odd blip in its hundred-odd issues, but generally it’s the best Spidey book of the last decade). Given that Marvel are about to make one of the biggest mistakes in their history, it’s about to become the only one worth bothering with, too…

[Seph]

wtf? “the fans all really like Mary Jane, so we’re gonna get rid of her!”

[Andrew]

Given I do most of my reading through trade paperbacks, how’bout a few recommendations?

[Seb Patrick]

Depends what kind of stuff you want? Ultimate Spider-Man is all out in trade, though (bar the most recent issue, but trades come out very quickly after each storyline finishes), so I’d recommend you start with the first couple of volumes if you’re into your Spidey stuff. For other Marvelish superhero needs, read the two volumes (split over four trades) of The Ultimates, which is basically the best superhero movie never made. And if you’re not one of these people who blindly claims Superman is rubbish, then All-Star Superman is one of the best comics of the last decade.

But if you want further recommendations of stuff, recent or otherwise, I’m happy to oblige ;-)

[Andrew]

Thanks!

I could use a Hulk dip-inner, too. And maybe an Iron Man?

Yes, I am ENTIRELY MOTIVATED BY MOVIES.

I sturggle with Supes, so may give that one a go. As I kid I was all about the Batman…

[Seb Patrick]

You’d have to ask my buddy James about Hulk stuff, as he’s a fan – I think Greg Pak’s recent run (“Planet Hulk”, it was called) was meant to be good. Check out some of the comics reviews on NTS, and our new site Comics Daily.

Iron Man is best avoided, because, well… Tony Stark is currently the Marvel Universe’s biggest supervillain. And has always been a dick. However, The Ultimates is the Ultimate universe’s version of the Avengers, and Iron Man and the Hulk are both in that.

(if you didn’t know – the Ultimate universe is Marvel’s imprint that does accessible, movie-friendly takes on classic characters and concepts, although as time goes by it’s developing its own shared-universe continuity and so becoming a bit more confusing. Like I say, Spidey and Ultimates are both utterly fantastic (not volume 3 of Ultimates, though, that’s so far dreadful), and X-Men and Fantastic Four are occasionally worth reading earlier in their runs, but certainly not essential)

[Ben Paddon]

Interesting sidenote: Buffy Season 8 is shaping up rather nicely.

[Andrew]

Again, I’m rather pathetically waiting for the TPB…

[Seb Patrick]

While you wait, read Whedon’s X-Men.

[Andrew]

I’m not that taken with X-Men.

*pause for thrown objects*

Sorry. I mean, I like the movies okay, but I’m not that keen on worlds flooded with super-powers. Whedon could get me in if anyone could, but it’s the same reason I don’t take to big crossover stories. I like me some loners. More magic, more powers…I get exhuasted by it.

Which, to be fair, probably stems from my comic history coming from Batman first and foremost. I like the notion of heroism coming from force of will (and, okay, a big wad of cash), no weird science, no magic. My first ‘proper’ comic was Death in the Family, in Year of the Bat 1989 (I think), and I suspect it fixed my tastes even as it expanded them.

[Seb Patrick]

Death in the Family, eh? You know Jason Todd’s been brought back from the dead recently?

[Andrew]

Oh WHAT?!

[Ben Paddon]

Andrew says…
Again, I?m rather pathetically waiting for the TPB?

Yeah, that’s what I’ve been doing. The first TPB, “What You Leave Behind” (which also includes the standalone story “The Chain”) is truly exceptional. Is it not out in the UK yet? You might want to consider importing it from Amazon.com…

[Seb Patrick]

>Oh WHAT?!

I was going to explain it, but… it’s late. I will do so in a humourously exasperated (at DC, not you) fashion tomorrow ;-)

[Andrew]

> Is it not out in the UK yet?

Hmm. An Amazon search reveals…”Long Way Home – Season 8 (first five issues)” released a couple of weeks back. Not sure I can stand the wait while the comics continue. But not sure I can leave it now I know, either!

On the other hand, I resent this new material being released in this format. The likenesses are rubbish, story arcs are totally different than they are on TV, and I don’t like doing things with my eyes. Maybe I can get someone to read it to me while impersonating the characters and pretend. Besides, why don’t they just make more episodes of the TV series? It’s crackers. They have to get Buffy out there! (…you see where I’m going with this, I’m sure.) :-)

> You might want to consider importing it from Amazon.com?

As with DVDs I really, really try not to import; especially not just to get things sooner It’s probably meaningless, but every ‘graphic novel’, every series of Homicide, I invest in once it arrives here encourages more of the same to happen. I’m doing my pathetic bit to create a market.

> will do so in a humourously exasperated (at DC, not you) fashion tomorrow ;-)

I’ll have a Wiki. Save you the summary. But do bring on the exasperation!

[Dave]

I’m addicted to Y: The Last Man. I can’t recommend it enough

[Seb Patrick]

I really, really struggled to get into it. Shame, as I absolutely love Ex Machina, and Brian K Vaughan is a thoroughly bloody lovely bloke. Cappsy likes it, though.

Andrew : condensed version of the Jason Todd story. SUPERBOY PUNCHED THE WALLS OF REALITY AND EVERYTHING CHANGED.

You think I’m kidding, but I’m really not. To explain more would mean having to explain who the hell Superboy Prime is, and the entire plot of Infinite Crisis, so let’s not go there. Actually, aside from his appearance in Bruce Jones’ abysmal Nightwing run, Todd hasn’t been handled too badly. But it’s still wrong that he’s even around. If I’d paid good money to vote to kill him (although there was a distinct suggestion that was rigged, anyway), I’d be well miffed ;-)

Don’t know if you ever read it, but we had Jason in this…

[Andrew]

> If I?d paid good money to vote to kill him, I?d be well miffed ;-)

Nikki went back into Big Brother after we voted her out, DC shoved Todd back into the comics. Same thing.

> Don?t know if you ever read it

Well of COURSE I did!

[Dave]

I’ve been getting into Ex Machina, but slowly. I like it, but it hasn’t quite held my attention like Y. Although the reveal at the end of issue is amazing. I won’t say what it is but you can download it here:

http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=2500

[Jonathan Capps]

> Yeah, that?s what I?ve been doing. The first TPB, ?What You Leave Behind? (which also includes the standalone story ?The Chain?) is truly exceptional. Is it not out in the UK yet? You might want to consider importing it from Amazon.com?

It is a brilliant 5 issues. But, BKV’s run is even better (save for the last issue, which isn’t out yet). Then again, I think I might be in love with BKV.

[Joey TORDFC]

>I?m did a Film Studies A level

So did I. It was in 1999 when film was good though.

[Jo]

Sorry just going back to Seb’s pic…

The Mrs Doubtfire-alike looks spookily like Mr Biffo :oP

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