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  • #297490
    Podey
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    I’ve noticed that everyone else in the world seems to pronounce Ouroboros as “aura bore-us”. I don’t need to tell you how I’ve always pronounced it…

    My question is, did Red Dwarf make that pronunciation up so that the premise of it being mistaken for something else would translate better? Have you ever heard it pronounced that way outside of RD?

    #297492
    Warbodog
    Participant

    I don’t have the background to know whether either is more correct. I first heard the more common one shortly after on The X-Files and figured it was a British/American thing at the time, like your-anus/urineus. But if one show was more likely to have done its research, it‘s not our one.

    #297493
    Ben Saunders
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    I’ve only ever heard it pronounced the Red Dwarf way, but where exactly else I’ve heard it, I could not tell you.

    #297496
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Io’s also supposed to be “ee-oh”, at least Carl Sagan says so, but that would be harder to adjust to.

    #297497

    I’ve heard it pronounced oo-roh-boh-rose.

    #297500

    Google reckons the British pronunciation is ooh-re-borrus. 

    #297503
    Ridley
    Participant

    It’s all Greek to me.

    #297509
    Rudolph
    Participant

    I played through Broken Sword 5 not long ago, where the ouroboros plays an important part, and kept mentally correcting the characters whenever they brought it up, as they use the aura-bore-us pronunciation.

    #297510
    Technopeasant
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    #297532
    Jenuall
    Participant

    Red Dwarf is the only place I’ve heard it pronounced the way they do. I do think it was a combination of not necessarily researching it and Doug just wilfully mangling it to fit the needs of his story.

    Most recent place I heard the more common aura-bore-us is in the videogames Xenoblade Chronicles 3 where it’s quite prominent.

    #297535
    Moonlight
    Participant

    Now I know how kids who decided the Sonic 3 level was called “Hydrossity Zone” feel when they eventually realize they’ve been saying it like an idiot for 30 years.

    #297536
    Dave
    Participant

    #297537
    Jenuall
    Participant

    People who pronounced it Hydrossity to rhyme with velocity were, and always will be, the scum of the Earth. 

    #297538
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    I call it Hydrossity recreationally, for fun. It pleases me.

    #297539
    Dave
    Participant

    I could understand the Hydro City argument more if there was a space between the words.

    #297540
    Dave
    Participant

    Also, I think just 11 posts before becoming another Sonic thread is a new record. 

    #297541
    Warbodog
    Participant

    My belated realisation was that the first “O” probably wasn’t upper case. Still not as bad as my brother calling Chrome Gadget “Charm Gandit.” 28 years old he was.

    #297549
    Technopeasant
    Participant

    Also, I think just 11 posts before becoming another Sonic thread is a new record. 

    “Anything from Anywhere that reminds Moonlight of Sonic the Hedgehog” thread still pending.

    Also, insert Mega Mind joke here…

    #297550
    Technopeasant
    Participant

    #297554
    Dave
    Participant

    Still not as bad as my brother calling Chrome Gadget “Charm Gandit.”

    #297558
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    I choose to call it “Hydrossity” because it amuses me. I do the same thing for football teams. Leicestercity is a fun one, as is Coventrycity.

    #297560
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I’ve never played Sonic 3, but I am already 100% on Team “Hydrossity”. If Sega wanted you to pronounce a space, then they should have added one.

    And surely a place should either be a City or a Zone, not both. The “Zone” part is unambiguous, therefore it must be a zone which is known for having hydrocity. Hydrocity is a made up word, but looking at screengrabs, I challenge anyone to say with certainty that this level does not have hydrocity. Plausibly it’s just an abbreviation of hydro-electricity.

    Likewise, Mexicans don’t live in Mexicocity, but I’m sure they have it in abundance.

    #297562
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    This reminds me of Road Trip (Adventure) for PS2, where there’s a city called Sandpolis, which is clearly supposed to be Sandopolis, but it’s a pretty spotty translation from the original Japanese Choro Q HG 2

    #297563
    Warbodog
    Participant

    If Angel Island is a zone on Angel Island (confusing for my STC-reared brain), why doesn‘t it have its own name? Is it like New York, New York?

    #297565
    Podey
    Participant

    Let us not forget that is the company that wants us to pronounce the “ega” in ‘Sega’ and ‘Mega’ differently.

    #297566
    Jenuall
    Participant

    It’s a city (city) that’s water themed (hydro) it’s so simple even Lister could get it. 


    Let us not forget that is the company that wants us to pronounce the “ega” in ‘Sega’ and ‘Mega’ differently.

    #297567
    Dave
    Participant

    It’s a city (city) that’s water themed (hydro) it’s so simple even Lister could get it.

    But it’s water that you move through fast, so it’s hydro-velocity, or Hydrocity to be more Twentica about it.

    (This is going to be Cinzano Bianco all over again.)

    #297569
    Nick R
    Participant

    Here’s a Sonic connection to get this back on topic: Loki season 2 featured a character called Mobius (which is, as all right-thinking people agree, Sonic’s home planet) meeting a character called Ouroboros.

    I watched a video a few days ago in which someone else says it in a non-Red Dwarf way: at about 26:12.

    #297570

    Toxicity 

    case closed. 

    #297573

    Best I can think of is first time I played Tomb Raider, I thought colosseum was pronounced col-LOSS-ium 

    #297574
    Dave
    Participant

    Toxicity 
    case closed. 

    #297576
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Hydro City fits the standard naming convention of a descriptive place name (basically a thesaurused Aquatic Ruin), while the more abstract neologism hydrocity doesn’t. I’m sure these points haven’t all been made by other people across the entire history of the internet.

    #297579
    Technopeasant
    Participant

    But is Back to Earth Seriesix?

    #297588
    Moonlight
    Participant

    These are the same people who tried to name a Sonic 2 level “Genocide City” because they don’t speak English. I don’t think they were making a pun with Hydrocity that barely even scans in English, nor is there wordplay in any other level title from this era.

    #297589
    Stephen Abootman
    Participant

    To go back to the original topic, I can confirm that the co-creator of Red Dwarf was Rob Grant, not Ross Grant.

    #297590
    Nick R
    Participant

    Rossert Llewellyn

    #297591
    Dave
    Participant

    #297592
    cwickham
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    #297593
    Dave
    Participant

    #297594

    As a Ross, this is all very disorienting.

    #297595
    Moonlight
    Participant

    A Ross! Let’s get him!

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    #297597

    Hyd-Ross-or-City

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    #297599
    Warbodog
    Participant

    Even more confusing in German.

    #297600
    Nick R
    Participant

    Hyd-Ross-or-City

    #297601
    Stephen Abootman
    Participant

    Taken a bit of a liberty with this one:

    #297607

    A Ross! Let’s get them!

    #297625
    Jenuall
    Participant

    This is veering dangerously close to Taiwan Tony territory

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