Quantum of Solace / Another Way To Die *Spoilers*

[thomasaevans]

So here’s the lastest trailer:

Here’s the Coca Cola Ad featuring the preview of the song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSuLyQcl7o

And heres the trailer with the song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4miMdFwvt4

Im excited. The song will feature vocals by Alica Keys, and music by Jack White of ‘The White Stripes’. This to me is the best Bond has been. How about you?

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[Ian Symes]

This theme would have been better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOH8_Vf_xIE

[Seb Patrick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTbiu6P0lcw

[Jonsmad]

They should have got Stanley Rodgers in.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_QWkvtCXI

[pfm]

> This theme would have been better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOH8_Vf_xIE

While I don’t think it’s that funny ‘before I shoot yooooooou’ cracks me up every time.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTbiu6P0lcw

Seriously, how good is that impression? I would watch episode after episode of the Peter Serafinowicz Show if only for his impressions. The Ralph Fiennes acting class is ace.

[Ridley]

This theme would have been better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOH8_Vf_xIE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMoJRLStD9c

( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbJDHn7B7gs )

[Tanya Jones]

>They should have got Stanley Rodgers in.

>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_QWkvtCXI

Always a good excuse to post that :)

[Andrew]

Jack White’s none to happy that the song – which is legit – crawled out this way:

“Jack White was commissioned by Sony Pictures to write a theme song for the James Bond film Quantum of Solace, not for Coca-Cola. Any other use of the song is based on decisions made by others, not by Jack White. We are disappointed that you first heard the song in a co-promotion for Coke Zero, rather than in its entirety.”

[Pete Part Three]

From that (brief) sample, I’ve decided that it sounds a bit, umm, I’m gonna go with “messy”.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

Yeees….sounds like 3 different songs shoved together.

Mind you…can’t really tell the structure from that, especially as it’s without vocals.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

Here’s the full version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plqxuAnP4rw

It’s getting lots of negative reaction on the Beeb’s “Have Your Say” site (what a surprise).

I reckon it rocks.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

Just listened to it again. It’s really fucking excellent. One of the best Bond themes ever I reckon.

[Pete Part Three]

I think I’m going to have to completely disagree. The opening is fine (even if it takes too long for the vocals to arrive) but then it just gets…annoying.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

Eeee….vive la difference. It’s what makes the world go round it is!

[Phil]

I disagree, he’d go to LegoLand. Bye.

[ChrisM]

It’s not bad. I quite like the song itself… but it all feels… jerky somehow. Not jerky as in “Done by a bunch of jerks.” I mean in the motion sense of the word. Disjointed. That’s not necessarily a bad thing mind (and it’s something that might grow on me) but I guess I’d prefer a Bond theme more smoooooth.

[pfm]

I wonder if it’s deliberate that the bendy intro/outro riff is very similar to You Know My Name (Casino Royale song) except lower. Overall it’s OK. I agree with the decision to keep up the rock after YKMN, though it doesn’t really have a tune like that song, which was usedto great effect within the film. I don’t get why they didn’t do another co-write with Bond composer, David Arnold.

[Dave]

The Bond theme that never was:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpH-iziTho

[Andrew]

> The Bond theme that never was

One of many:

http://noisetosignal.org/2008/09/m-is-for-music

[Rad]

I really don’t know.

First time I heard it, I thought overlong opening, stupid lyrics, crap distortion on the vocals. It felt empty, it wasn’t driven enough for a Bond song, it wasn’t epic enough, it was just a badly made, badly written, badly produced song by a guy who clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about and who probably wrote it in ten minutes. Another blinger with a slick trigger finger for her majesty? Oh fuck off. And most of the instrumental parts of the song just sounded like the Bond theme played backwards.

And I still think that. But it gets better with repeat listens. Certainly with the volume turned up a lot of the feeling that this was too low key and too small goes away. I still have a lot of reservations but it’s actually quite exciting. It doesn’t come close to the last great Bond song Tomorrow Never Dies but it’s not terrible.

[pfm]

> It doesn?t come close to the last great Bond song Tomorrow Never Dies

Which was easily worse than The World Is Not Enough and You Know My Name (Casino Royale).

[Andrew]

> > It doesn?t come close to the last great Bond song Tomorrow Never Dies

> Which was easily worse than The World Is Not Enough and You Know My Name (Casino Royale).

See also Surrender, the REAL theme to Tomorrow Never Dies.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

> See also Surrender, the REAL theme to Tomorrow Never Dies.

Oooh, yes…that was good that one. How odd that they had two themes for that one.

I pretty much like all of the bond themes with the exception of the Man with the Golden Gun and Moonraker.

Not really that keen on Live and Let Die (burn me if you must). Always think it goes between being a bit blarty farty and UB40 / Wings-type quasi-reggae.

The best ever? Hmm….I do have a soft spot for View to a Kill, even though the film itself is a bit gash.

[peas_and_corn]

I like the theme for View to a Kill

[Rad]

‘Surrender’ isn’t better than TND. TND wonderfully captures Paris’ story and the whole James Bond mystique. Surrender is just a series of dull cliches too lazy and unfocused to get Elliot Carver’s character. And it’s chorus is really deficient compared to TND’s. I’ve no idea how people can listen to the two and create some tragedy that ‘Surrender’ wasn’t used, usually involving money men who don’t understand music and an anti-lesbian conspiracy. They were both used in the film, get over it.

[Andrew]

> They were both used in the film, get over it.

Thanks for the warm and friendly comment!

[pfm]

The Living Daylights, You Only Live Twice, From Russia With Love, Goldeneye and The World Is Not Enough are brilliant IMO. A View To A Kill always sounds like Duran Duran just had a song written and then slapped the words ‘view to a kill’ on it.

[Rad]

> Thanks for the warm and friendly comment!

Sorry man, I didn’t mean to direct that at you.

[Andrew]

> Sorry man, I didn?t mean to direct that at you.

If you prefer the song that was used, hey, fair enough. I don’t put it down to conspiracy, but it WAS a mostly-commercial decision – Lang’s song was ARNOLD’S song, really, and formed a vital backbone for the score. So partly it’s just about having a more wholesome, integrated film. Clearly it was likely to be the main song right up to the deadline, and it is used as ‘the theme’ for the movie once you leave the titles behind. Which is why is used the term “real theme”.

But yeah, also, I prefer the track simply as a matter of taste. Musically, obviously, but I also think Black’s lyrics were far more appropriate – going a Goldfinger route with the idea of the villain’s modus operandi being seductive – than Crowe’s “See, it’s all about Bond” stuff. Mention Martinis and it feels placeholder; I have a similar problem with the opening “for her majesty” line of the new song. That rally does go into Stanley Rodgers territory for me!

Which is not to say I hate the song. Not at all. The Paris stuff is a bit limp in the film, so I’d argue less deserving of being the focus – but it’s a fine enough track.

[Andrew]

> A View To A Kill always sounds like Duran Duran just had a song written and then slapped the words ?view to a kill? on it.

Oh, and your list was really good until you said that! :-)

[Zombie Jim Undead]

Just listened to “Surrender” again as hadn’t heard it for years. It’s ok but a bit of a by-the-numbers Bond song. Bit too much cheese in that whopper for my tastes. Shirely Bassey-lite.

Reckon my favourites would be….

From Russia With Love, View t’ Kill, Living Daylights, Goldeneye, World is Not Enough, Another Way to Die.

[Andrew]

> Another Way to Die

Interesting to see this on the list already!

[Zombie Jim Undead]

It’s because it’s new. I’m one of those idiots who puts the last film they’ve seen and enjoyed on the “Top 10 Best Ever” lists.

:)

I do think it’s ace, though. Fresh and raw (like a carrot) but somehow classic (like a Bentley) at the same time. I can really see how a Carrot Bentley’s not to everyone’s tastes though.

[peas_and_corn]

Though it has not been released yet, I can confidently say that Quantum of Solace will be much better than Moonraker.

[Tanya Jones]

>That rally does go into Stanley Rodgers territory for me!

“‘Ave yer Quantum of Solace now, don’t leave it ’till later…”

[John Hoare]

Though it has not been released yet, I can confidently say that Quantum of Solace will be much better than Moonraker.

Moonraker is great.

Even the St. Mark’s Square bit.

You can all fuck off.

[Pete Part Three]

>Even the St. Mark?s Square bit.

Even the Pigeon double-take??

[John Hoare]

Even the Pigeon double-take??

Actually, no, not that bit. That’s crap. But really because it’s technically a shoddy piece of editing as much as anything.

[Andrew]

What about Jaws trying to fucking fly, then surviving a fall to Earth from a plane simply by landing on a circus tent?!

[John Hoare]

Fun!

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