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  • #2535
    thomasaevans
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    So here’s the lastest trailer:

    Here’s the Coca Cola Ad featuring the preview of the song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSuLyQcl7o

    And heres the trailer with the song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4miMdFwvt4

    Im excited. The song will feature vocals by Alica Keys, and music by Jack White of ‘The White Stripes’. This to me is the best Bond has been. How about you?

    #84326
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    This theme would have been better:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOH8_Vf_xIE

    #84327
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster
    #84328
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    They should have got Stanley Rodgers in.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_QWkvtCXI

    #84329
    pfm
    Participant

    > This theme would have been better:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOH8_Vf_xIE

    While I don’t think it’s that funny ‘before I shoot yooooooou’ cracks me up every time.

    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTbiu6P0lcw

    Seriously, how good is that impression? I would watch episode after episode of the Peter Serafinowicz Show if only for his impressions. The Ralph Fiennes acting class is ace.

    #84330
    Ridley
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    #84337
    Tanya Jones
    Participant

    >They should have got Stanley Rodgers in.

    >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_QWkvtCXI

    Always a good excuse to post that :)

    #84362
    Andrew
    Participant

    Jack White’s none to happy that the song – which is legit – crawled out this way:

    “Jack White was commissioned by Sony Pictures to write a theme song for the James Bond film Quantum of Solace, not for Coca-Cola. Any other use of the song is based on decisions made by others, not by Jack White. We are disappointed that you first heard the song in a co-promotion for Coke Zero, rather than in its entirety.”

    #84366
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    From that (brief) sample, I’ve decided that it sounds a bit, umm, I’m gonna go with “messy”.

    #84377
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    Yeees….sounds like 3 different songs shoved together.

    Mind you…can’t really tell the structure from that, especially as it’s without vocals.

    #84545
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    Here’s the full version:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plqxuAnP4rw

    It’s getting lots of negative reaction on the Beeb’s “Have Your Say” site (what a surprise).

    I reckon it rocks.

    #84549
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    Just listened to it again. It’s really fucking excellent. One of the best Bond themes ever I reckon.

    #84550
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I think I’m going to have to completely disagree. The opening is fine (even if it takes too long for the vocals to arrive) but then it just gets…annoying.

    #84551
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    Eeee….vive la difference. It’s what makes the world go round it is!

    #84569
    Phil
    Participant

    I disagree, he’d go to LegoLand. Bye.

    #84570
    ChrisM
    Participant

    It’s not bad. I quite like the song itself… but it all feels… jerky somehow. Not jerky as in “Done by a bunch of jerks.” I mean in the motion sense of the word. Disjointed. That’s not necessarily a bad thing mind (and it’s something that might grow on me) but I guess I’d prefer a Bond theme more smoooooth.

    #84572
    pfm
    Participant

    I wonder if it’s deliberate that the bendy intro/outro riff is very similar to You Know My Name (Casino Royale song) except lower. Overall it’s OK. I agree with the decision to keep up the rock after YKMN, though it doesn’t really have a tune like that song, which was usedto great effect within the film. I don’t get why they didn’t do another co-write with Bond composer, David Arnold.

    #84573
    Dave
    Participant

    The Bond theme that never was:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpH-iziTho

    #84574
    Andrew
    Participant

    > The Bond theme that never was

    One of many:

    http://noisetosignal.org/2008/09/m-is-for-music

    #84594
    Rad
    Participant

    I really don’t know.

    First time I heard it, I thought overlong opening, stupid lyrics, crap distortion on the vocals. It felt empty, it wasn’t driven enough for a Bond song, it wasn’t epic enough, it was just a badly made, badly written, badly produced song by a guy who clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about and who probably wrote it in ten minutes. Another blinger with a slick trigger finger for her majesty? Oh fuck off. And most of the instrumental parts of the song just sounded like the Bond theme played backwards.

    And I still think that. But it gets better with repeat listens. Certainly with the volume turned up a lot of the feeling that this was too low key and too small goes away. I still have a lot of reservations but it’s actually quite exciting. It doesn’t come close to the last great Bond song Tomorrow Never Dies but it’s not terrible.

    #84595
    pfm
    Participant

    > It doesn?t come close to the last great Bond song Tomorrow Never Dies

    Which was easily worse than The World Is Not Enough and You Know My Name (Casino Royale).

    #84598
    Andrew
    Participant

    > > It doesn?t come close to the last great Bond song Tomorrow Never Dies

    > Which was easily worse than The World Is Not Enough and You Know My Name (Casino Royale).

    See also Surrender, the REAL theme to Tomorrow Never Dies.

    #84600
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    > See also Surrender, the REAL theme to Tomorrow Never Dies.

    Oooh, yes…that was good that one. How odd that they had two themes for that one.

    I pretty much like all of the bond themes with the exception of the Man with the Golden Gun and Moonraker.

    Not really that keen on Live and Let Die (burn me if you must). Always think it goes between being a bit blarty farty and UB40 / Wings-type quasi-reggae.

    The best ever? Hmm….I do have a soft spot for View to a Kill, even though the film itself is a bit gash.

    #84606
    peas_and_corn
    Participant

    I like the theme for View to a Kill

    #84624
    Rad
    Participant

    ‘Surrender’ isn’t better than TND. TND wonderfully captures Paris’ story and the whole James Bond mystique. Surrender is just a series of dull cliches too lazy and unfocused to get Elliot Carver’s character. And it’s chorus is really deficient compared to TND’s. I’ve no idea how people can listen to the two and create some tragedy that ‘Surrender’ wasn’t used, usually involving money men who don’t understand music and an anti-lesbian conspiracy. They were both used in the film, get over it.

    #84625
    Andrew
    Participant

    > They were both used in the film, get over it.

    Thanks for the warm and friendly comment!

    #84631
    pfm
    Participant

    The Living Daylights, You Only Live Twice, From Russia With Love, Goldeneye and The World Is Not Enough are brilliant IMO. A View To A Kill always sounds like Duran Duran just had a song written and then slapped the words ‘view to a kill’ on it.

    #84637
    Rad
    Participant

    > Thanks for the warm and friendly comment!

    Sorry man, I didn’t mean to direct that at you.

    #84638
    Andrew
    Participant

    > Sorry man, I didn?t mean to direct that at you.

    If you prefer the song that was used, hey, fair enough. I don’t put it down to conspiracy, but it WAS a mostly-commercial decision – Lang’s song was ARNOLD’S song, really, and formed a vital backbone for the score. So partly it’s just about having a more wholesome, integrated film. Clearly it was likely to be the main song right up to the deadline, and it is used as ‘the theme’ for the movie once you leave the titles behind. Which is why is used the term “real theme”.

    But yeah, also, I prefer the track simply as a matter of taste. Musically, obviously, but I also think Black’s lyrics were far more appropriate – going a Goldfinger route with the idea of the villain’s modus operandi being seductive – than Crowe’s “See, it’s all about Bond” stuff. Mention Martinis and it feels placeholder; I have a similar problem with the opening “for her majesty” line of the new song. That rally does go into Stanley Rodgers territory for me!

    Which is not to say I hate the song. Not at all. The Paris stuff is a bit limp in the film, so I’d argue less deserving of being the focus – but it’s a fine enough track.

    #84639
    Andrew
    Participant

    > A View To A Kill always sounds like Duran Duran just had a song written and then slapped the words ?view to a kill? on it.

    Oh, and your list was really good until you said that! :-)

    #84641
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    Just listened to “Surrender” again as hadn’t heard it for years. It’s ok but a bit of a by-the-numbers Bond song. Bit too much cheese in that whopper for my tastes. Shirely Bassey-lite.

    Reckon my favourites would be….

    From Russia With Love, View t’ Kill, Living Daylights, Goldeneye, World is Not Enough, Another Way to Die.

    #84643
    Andrew
    Participant

    > Another Way to Die

    Interesting to see this on the list already!

    #84645
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    It’s because it’s new. I’m one of those idiots who puts the last film they’ve seen and enjoyed on the “Top 10 Best Ever” lists.

    :)

    I do think it’s ace, though. Fresh and raw (like a carrot) but somehow classic (like a Bentley) at the same time. I can really see how a Carrot Bentley’s not to everyone’s tastes though.

    #84685
    peas_and_corn
    Participant

    Though it has not been released yet, I can confidently say that Quantum of Solace will be much better than Moonraker.

    #84691
    Tanya Jones
    Participant

    >That rally does go into Stanley Rodgers territory for me!

    “‘Ave yer Quantum of Solace now, don’t leave it ’till later…”

    #84698
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Though it has not been released yet, I can confidently say that Quantum of Solace will be much better than Moonraker.

    Moonraker is great.

    Even the St. Mark’s Square bit.

    You can all fuck off.

    #84701
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    >Even the St. Mark?s Square bit.

    Even the Pigeon double-take??

    #84702
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Even the Pigeon double-take??

    Actually, no, not that bit. That’s crap. But really because it’s technically a shoddy piece of editing as much as anything.

    #84704
    Andrew
    Participant

    What about Jaws trying to fucking fly, then surviving a fall to Earth from a plane simply by landing on a circus tent?!

    #84705
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Fun!

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